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Toyota Corolla



  • veetek99veetek99 Posts: 4
    Does anyone know what changes Toyota may be making to the 2004 Corolla? The one consistent complaint I've read is that the steering wheel seems too far away. I wonder if Toyota is going to make the steering column telescoping like the Ford Focus has? Normally they do the usual small changes like different wheel covers, exterior colors, rearrange some of the options, add or delete options, etc. Thanks.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    That Toyota wakes up and puts a telescoping steering wheel on the Corolla. I was all set to buy one based on what everyone said, went and drove it. I couldn't believe how horrible the driving position was, my 94 Escort was more comfortable for me to drive, heck, so is my 85 Jeep Cherokee. Come on Toyota, wake up!!
  • tunefultuneful Posts: 35
    I've been w/out a car for months, and if it weren't for the Corolla's messed-up driving ergonomics, I'd be in a new LE now. When is Toyota going to fix this? And it's been a problem for YEARS. I gave my local dealer an earful (nicely) about Toyota's lag in this feature in ALL its vehicles(correct me if I'm wrong--however, I'm not in the luxury bracket). I drove a rental Focus over the weekend. It wasn't as nice as the Corolla in a lot of ways but Focus does offer telescopic, thereby acknowledging there are a lot of us tall, long-legged Americans.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    Amen to that, we almost bought a Focus because the driving position is soooo much better, but the Ford dealer decided they wanted top dollar for the car, so we walked and won't go back.

    I still want a Corolla, but with my bad knee and bad back I can't stand the driving position, its painful for me. If I get wind that Toyota is going to fix that for 04 I'll hold out on buying a car. Right now we are looking at June for buying, we were hoping for May, but oh well.
  • corolla03corolla03 Posts: 17
    I do know that our 2003 Corolla LE sometimes smells so bad it makes us nauseated. I have had to open the windows in rainstorms, to try to get the smell out. One rider honestly thought we were parked over an open sewer. The trouble is that it doesn't happen all the time, so I can't replicate the problem when I take it to the dealer.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    Driving position or not, my Corolla is being built today and will be here the end of next month. Can't find a more sensible car. Talked to the sales manager today and he said he was hoping I would change my mind and call him back.

    Just gonna have to fiddle with that seat to make it work.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Maybe it is just me, but I would never buy a car that I was unhappy with on the test drive, especially if the problem was with the seating. I would be looking at most honorable Proteges, Civics, Imprezas and Sentras.

    If you aren't happy with it now, you probably will be less so when you have made the last payment!
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    That's OK, akangl will not be making the last payment, I guarantee it. Smile
  • tunefultuneful Posts: 35
    Wishing you the best with your new purchase. There are TONS of corollas on the road here in metro DC/Baltimore and all those people can't be wrong. I'm sure you can try various modifications if you turn out to have problems (cushions, pedal mods?, buy/install diff seat?). It wasn't a problem for me on routine drives, only longer ones. Johncline-san, <L'd> at your post :-)
    Toyota M of NA, hoping you get w/the times and do something about this issue.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    I'm not getting the 03, found a beautiful 01 Corolla CE today in my goofing around and bugging friends at the dealerships today. The car is in perfect shape and the price is $8495. It has 44k on it and I figure that's barely broke in. Works for me, would rather spend that then the $17k for a new one that I don't like the seats in. The 01 is so much nicer to drive that the 03. We are picking it up tomorrow morning.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    When I said that I didn't think you'd make the last payment I didn't realise you wouldn't make the first one either! But seriously, I think that choice makes a great deal more sense for you given that you probably won't keep it till it dies.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Congrats with your choice.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    We will probably keep it at least 3 years, the loan will be a 24 month loan. I drive a lot, so it will have over 150k on it by the 3 year mark. As long as it doesn't give me any trouble I'll keep it. It was buying and selling cars that got us into this mess, I sure don't want a repeat of it in a few years. I need to realize that vehicles are just that and I don't have to have the latest and greatest. I'm learning.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    It's TMS USA. And it's a non-issue at this time. Corollas are selling briskly.
                       : )
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    Picked up the 2001 Corolla CE today, its home now, what a nice car! I'm really impressed, definatly like it better than the 03 Corolla.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Yea, I just dont see it (comparison 01 vs. 03), but to each his own. Best wishes with your car.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    The difference is the driving position, the 03 is very awkward and to me, very uncomfortable. The 01 has a great driving position, I don't know what Toyota was thinking when they changed it so much for 03. I've driven both now and much prefer the 01.
  • canccanc Posts: 715
    I can understand what you're saying. I drive a Corolla almost daily, and I can fit in well in a 2000 Corolla. I was having my car serviced the other day, and went to see new Corolla in the showroom. I couldn't believe that they decreased leg room! Now my knees are literally right next the steering wheel and the door. Strange. I hope this will change in the redesign.

    Congratulations on your purchase!
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    Thanks. My main complaint about the 2003 Corolla is how far the steering wheel is away from the driver, its horrible.
  • tunefultuneful Posts: 35
    I stand corrected on the corporate name. Acronym research is at the top of my list before I post <L> some of us work in other industries and have limited time for it. And just becaues Rollas are selling in droves, that does not mean that this is "a non-issue." Any cruise of the boards and reviews on this car supports this point. Toyota or any of its reps ignoring or dismissing it (i.e., we don't have to fix it, we're toyota, nuff said) is unfortunate.
    Akan, congrats on what sounds like a good solution for you.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    I don't know if some of you recognize the boatloads of money it would take Toyota to fix the steering wheel quirk. It isn't as easy as just making them longer. Dealing with suppliers and re-engineering the machines that make them is costly. If the problem were this severe, Toyota wouldn't have designed it the way it was and would fix it if absolutely necessary.
  • tmanttmant Posts: 70
    I've read some of the more recent messages here on the Corolla and would like to get some input. I'm really interested in an Elantra GT hatchback, but the wife wants a Corolla.

    I need to convince the wife why the Elantra is better, or perhaps you folks can convince me why I should get the Corolla.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    My rear driver side window is working again! I think maybe opening and closing it caused a loose connection to possibly be remade.

    However, I am thinking of trading in the car for a 1998 Celica which I found a great deal on. My originally intended to purchase a Celica but couldn't find one on the market meeting my requirements.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    Thanks, its a nice car and we are very happy with it. Now I'm going to fix up my 85 Jeep so I will have the best of both worlds.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    I don't understand why Toyota changed the driving position so much. We drove an 03 and then bought an 01 Corolla, they are night and day for driving position. I much prefer the 01. I think Toyota could fix the problem by just going to a tilt/telescoping steering wheel like the Jetta and Focus have.

    Ah well, I'm just glad we found an 01 that's in good shape, hard to do here in Alaska. Of course with our driveway like it is right now if I'm not careful I won't have much of a car left.
  • superman5superman5 Posts: 154
    what kind of people ask for telescopic steering wheel on a corolla? if it matters much , buy a lexus/mercede/bmw with them
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    I'm glad it started to work again, probaly the same gremlin that I! Hit the 68k mark driving home from work today and am getting the itch for a new Corolla. Will have to wait for the '04's to come out though, hate a first year run and also an odd model year, just a quirk of mine!

    The Sandman :-)
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    coolguy- awesome! good luck in getting that Celica. I think the 94-99s were great looking, just never had an engine to match the raciness.

    superman-Last time I checked, there arent many people cross shopping Corollas and C-classes. I would say that the kind of person wanting a tilt/telescopic steering wheel in a Corolla is a reasonable, prudent person probably one looking to maximize satisfaction and value of the dollar from a car he or she likes. How much would it really cost Toyota to add a tele mech. on at least S and LEs?

    sandman- if it helps, the Corolla is currently in its 14th month of model year 2003.

  • terceltom1terceltom1 Posts: 150
    I think you made a smart choice by going with the "01" vs. the "03". Not only was it a great price but like you stated the driving position is so much better. Not to mention you won't have to deal with that dashboard squeal and lousy smell that so many "03" owners are complaining about. I have an "01" LE with 15000 miles on it and the only thing I ever had to take it back to the dealer for was a squeal with the belt on cold start ups. This was actually a service bulletin that Toyota knew about and it required a new belt and belt tensioner. Of course it was under the warranty. Good Luck with your "01"
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    If Ford can put a telescoping wheel on the Focus, why can't Toyota put it on the Corolla?

    I drove a '03 Corolla LE in Miami this week and was reminded of its good points (smooth ride, smooth engine, smooth paint, big trunk) and its bad points (uncomfortable driving position, rotten-egg smell, lack of niceties like map lights, so-so pickup with automatic). For the person comparing the Corolla to the Elantra--be sure you and every other driver of the car takes a long test drive in each before you decide.
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