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Toyota Corolla



  • superman5superman5 Posts: 154
    I guess toyota should add some napa leather/multi htd seats/HID lights/etc =/
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    The Corolla beat the Civic in sales by almost 4,000 units in March 2003. When was the last time that the Corolla was outselling Civic in the cars' other generations?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    But maybe add some features that almost every small car has these days, and while they are at it do a redesign on the driver's seat and/or steering column, and the emissions system. But since the car is selling so well, maybe Toyota couldn't care less about such things.
  • autonutsautonuts Posts: 138
    me if the timing "chain" ever needs replaced or adjusted on the Corollas equipped with them?
  • dunworthdunworth Posts: 338
    We have owned a 1998 Elantra sedan and currently own a '02 Corolla. Both of these cars in '03 have new bodies but have the same basic powertrains as previous models albeit with some added horsepower and other refinements

    The Elantra has a better driving position, is much sportier and is also roomier than the Corolla. The downside is that the Hyundai is not as refined and its interior is not of the same quality of the Toyota. Exterior fit and finish of the two cars is not as far off, but again, the vote goes to the Corolla. While both cars have engines that are durable, the trannies in the Hyundais are not as good. The manuals are a bit sloppy and the automatics do not make the best use of the extra 10 hp versus the Corolla.

    Resale of course is nearly industry leading with the Corolla while it is slightly below average for the Elantra - although better than many US makes.

    I also own an '03 Civic which I think shares more similarity with the Elantra than the Corolla. I can not give you a clear recommendation for the Elantra GT over the Corolla. They are two different but excellent small cars.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    I've had my 01 Corolla almost a week now and have put nearly 800 miles on it. So far its getting 38 mpg in mixed driving. We love it. Only thing I've noticed is for 1st, 3rd, and reverse it likes the clutch pushed all the way in or it makes some pretty horrible noises.

    Very neat, peppy little car, glad I bought it.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    It will not last forever - but generally is maintenance-free up to the 125k mark or even more. Eventually, the chain can stretch and start making noise by slapping against the housing; if it gets loose enough, it can slip a cog and then you have the same problems you would with a broken belt.

    Mercedes and BMW have historically recommended having a look at it before 150k miles, even if there are no symptoms. In a car like the Corolla, my guess is that most of them will go to the auto graveyard before the chain will ever see the light of day...
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    which also used a timing chain went out to 250K on the original chain, before I sold the car.

    Nice thing about chains is, if they begin to stretch or get loose they will make lots of noise and you will know it may need replacement. BIG advantage over timing belts, which will be silent until the day they break and leave you stranded or worse.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • superman5superman5 Posts: 154
    I get about 34mpg with about 40 city/ 60% highway, is that bad?
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    I wouldn't say that's bad. I'm getting 38 mpg with 20% city/80% highway on my 01 Corolla.
  • marksmanmarksman Posts: 1
    Greetings, everyone.
    This is my first message in town hall.
    Being a teacher, I needed a car that was reliable and economical. Because of past experience, I chose a toyota corolla.

    I bought my 2003 corolla at the end of feburary 2003. So far, I am pleased. Have not experienced the smell often(maybe only twice), and I now have 2150 miles on the vehicle.

    Two questions:
    1) Ocassionally, my driver's door will not unlock from the outside with the key. I have power locks, and I have to turn the key several times to get it to unlock. Has anyone else had this experience?

    2) Periodically, when I put my foot on the brake, I hear a 'clunk' from beneath the pedal and feel the vibiration. I do not have ABS, and I asked the dealer about it. The dealership said that this was 'normal', that the components(discs or pads) shift when one applys the brakes. If this was 'normal', why do I not hear it all the time? Has anyone else out there in toyotaland had similar problems??
  • tominsdtominsd Posts: 18
    The Toyota 04 Corolla is out and the specs are on the Toyota web page. But it says nothing about anything being new. I was hoping they would have upgraded the seats and maybe added a telescoping steering wheel. I can detect no changes except some new colors.

    Anybody have more detailed info to see what changes may have been made to the 04 model?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    For Toyota to do anything differently in the second model year of a design. In fact, the recent Camry (with its equipment upgrades, stronger V6, 5sp auto combination) is the only exception I can think of in recent memory- and this was largely because of the new Accord and much stronger selling Altima. For now, I don't feel the Corolla faces competition that is as formidable.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    The Mazda3 is due this fall. From all descriptions it should be a formidable competitor to the Corolla.
  • gregoriusmgregoriusm Posts: 61
    I don't understand how anyone can even think of buying an Elantra if they check out the crash tests on IIHS and NHTSA. Corollas are a Best Pick whereas the Elantra scores among the worst overall.

    I think your wife is right about the Corolla!

    Elentras were good until this last generation. I wouldn't drive one if it was given to me.


    ... Greg
  • toyotalgaltoyotalgal Posts: 13
    has been great! On my last tank I got 32 MPG (city driving) I have the 4 speed auto tranny - I keep the air pressure in my tires slightly above what is recommended - instead of 30 PSI I keep them at 32 or so - also, I have learned to "coast" and this helps as well - I understand the 2003 Corolla is a heavier car than my 2001 so I think this is why I have been reading about the gas mileage not meeting expectations from some 2003 owners - also, I usually go with 89 octane rather than 87 - yes, it costs a little more but it does give you better mileage - so far my car has been everything I hoped for and wanted -
  • superman5superman5 Posts: 154
    most people may be don't think that they will crash their cars?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    89 octane will not improve your gas mileage unless your engine is out of tune.

    32 PSI does help (I usually use 35). The only downside to higher psi is a harsher ride. The car handles better, tires last longer, and are safer because they run cooler (lower pressure means more tire flex and more heat).
  • toyotalgaltoyotalgal Posts: 13
    I respectfully disagree - when I use 89 versus 87 octane gas I do get better mileage - I check it every time I fill up - my understanding is that your engine uses less of the higher octane gas versus the lower -
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    Then your engine needs a tuneup. 89 octane has no more energy than 87 octane (it is actually less volitile), and cannot improve the mileage of an engine that is not designed for it.

    If your timing is too far advanced then you can take advantage of the higher octane, but that would mean your engine is out of tune.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    With my 01 Corolla CE I have put just over 1000 miles on it, so far the worst gas mileage was 36.5, the best was 42.1. It seems to average 37 to 38 in mixed driving, 20% city/80% hwy and some idling.

    Can't beat that, my previous car was a 94 Escort and its best gas mileage was 35, worst 25, and it seemed to hang in the 28 mpg in mixed driving.

    I do need to replace the tires here soon, any suggestions? I was going to go to a 15" alloy wheel and 195/55/R15 tires, but I'm afraid that will mess up the gas mileage. So, I'll stick with the 14's that it has.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    You are mistaken about the NHTSA crash tests for the Civic compared to the Elantra. Both cars have two 4-star rankings and two 5-star rankings. That is, comparing like-to-like (4-door sedans). The IIHS frontal offset crash test result for the Civic is better than the Elantra's, mostly because the Elantra's airbag deployed late in 2 out of 3 tests. Hyundai has not been able to duplicate that result. The Elantra has superior IIHS bumper crash tests compared to the Civic. Personally I think the current-gen Elantras are a huge improvement over earlier models, while that is not the case for the current-gen Civic.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    I think this link is what gregoriousm was referring to.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,868

    Using higher octane only increases the price you pay for fuel. A Corolla is designed for regular unleaded and will not receive increased mileage with premium.

    The idea that higher octane equals better mileage is a myth.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    when significantly overpumping tires beyond the car manufacturer's recommendation - this can lead to uneven tire wear across the tread.

    Also, of course, never exceed the tire manufacturer's maximum pressure which is printed on the sidewall.

    There, that is my quota of public service announcements for the week! :-)

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    gregoriousm mentioned both the IIHS tests (which your link pointed to) and the NHTSA tests. I was just pointing out that in the case of the NHTSA tests, the Elantra has done very well, as it has also on the IIHS bumper tests. gregoriousm seemed to say that the Elantra had poor NHTSA test results, which is not the case. However, I did make one big goof in my earlier post in that I said "Civic" instead of Corolla. I guess I had Civics on the brain, shifting around between boards and all. But everything I said still applies to the Corolla except my comment about the current-gen Civic, er, Corolla. I think the '03 model is an improvement over the previous Corolla in most respects, especially rear-seat space, although I prefer the driving position of the previous-gen Corollas.
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    I agree about the driving position, that's the main reason I bought a used 01 rather than the new 03 I was going to get. Well, that and the $9000 difference in the price tag.
  • gregoriusmgregoriusm Posts: 61
    Backy: If you click on the link that grandtotal supplied, how can you think that the Elantra is a safe car when compared with the Corolla (or almost any other compact car for that matter).

    If you go to that link and click on "Earlier Designs, you'll see the Elantra near the top. The redesign put them near the bottom.

    ... Greg

    P.S. Thanks for posting the link, gt.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    I didn't say that the Elantra is a safer car than the Corolla. You said in an earlier post:

    I don't understand how anyone can even think of buying an Elantra if they check out the crash tests on IIHS and NHTSA. Corollas are a Best Pick whereas the Elantra scores among the worst overall.

    I was merely pointing out that the Elantra's NHTSA crash test scores are equivalent to those of the Corolla--each has two five-star results and two four-star results. And those results are among the very best for small four-door sedans. Based on that, I don't think it is accurate to say that the Elantra's NHTSA scores are among the worst overall--which is what you said. The Elantra's IIHS frontal offset crash test score is of course worse than that of the Corolla's. But you didn't specify that test in your post, and you included the NHTSA tests too.

    The Corolla is a fine car, but maybe there are other reasons besides a single crash test score that people would buy an Elantra over a Corolla. Unfortunately, Toyota decided to design the driving position of the new Corolla to favor shorter people, so it's not a car I could consider buying.
  • gregoriusmgregoriusm Posts: 61
    I stand corrected. On the NHTSA site the Elantra did reasonably well.

    It is the IIHS site where it blew it - in the offset crash.

    I guess I need to rethink the Elantra and not be so critical.

    Thanks for pointing this out to me.

    ... Greg :-)
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