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Mazda MPV: Problems & Solutions



  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    That's an easy one when the wife has a harder time with her than I do...

  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167
    Knock it off you two! How am I expected to get any online shopping, um, er, work done with you nutz making me fall out of my chair like that?!?

    --Deepest apologies for dragging us into the nether-regions of off-topicdom...I swear, my coworkers bribe me with free coffee! That's why I'm like this, it's a curse! ;-P

  • Thanks for your input into the MPV. The darn thing is sounding better and better and I haven't even taken my test drive. Am going this week. With the responses I have gotten this should not only be fun but well worth the $$. We only have two kids and they aren't very big...yet, so hopefully this will be able to grow with us. We aren't having more but, their interests will expand I am sure. Do you have the entertainment pkg.? Does anyone? I would like to know how nice and clear etc. it is. Dealers aren't the best people to ask, as it is their bread and butter we are dealing with so I really do appreciate the responses to my plea for help.
    Thanks again, and any other little tidbits you can tell me about will be great. How about your a/c under heavy loads? This may sound like stupid ? but when we go on these long trips (20 hours) to grandparents, it is through hot south and smoky mtns. so traveling w/ nice,reliable, cold a/c is always neccessary.
    Thanks again, will check board later for any feedback.
  • I was a mini-van owner prior to 1997. I bought a car in 1997 and I am now considering going back to a mini-van. To me, the MPV offers the best package. I did 3x road tests recently (3x different new 2001 MPV vans) and on every occasion I truly felt a small vibration in the steering column, almost as if the engine was struggling on the highway. Have any 2001 MPV owners noticed this?
  • rjr425rjr425 Posts: 53
    The one thing this car doesn't do is struggle on the highway. The first time I had it out on the interstate I wondered why everybody was moving so slowly. I looked down and saw that I was doing 15mph above the limit--and the engine sounded as though it was loafing. The way the van is set up, it gets most of its hp above 40mph.

    I too got an almost imperceptible vibration--not in the column, but in the wheel--between 55 & 70. The only reason I even noticed it was because I'd been reading this forum and knew to look for it. If I hadn't, I probably wouldn't have noticed it at all. The next day, also because I had read this forum, I checked my tire pressure and found that all four tires were set to almost fifty lbs. I dropped them to 35, and the problem went away. This may have been what you were feeling.

  • whisper1whisper1 Posts: 50
    After driving and drivetrain warmed up, put in P or N, shutoff the engine, wait a few seconds (say 5s), restart the engine. Now drive forward, within 2-3 seconds, there is brief mechanical sensation on the gas pedal together with a noise. Anyone notice or know what this is?

    It doesn't showup when drivetrain is cold! It looks like some kind of interlock, but then why only when drivetrain is warm.

    As cars get more complicate and computerize, it would be nice for car manufacturers to indicate what is normal behavior on the owner manual.

    turboplex: I test drove 3 also, the 1st new one I don't recall any vibration, maybe I wasn't paying attention. The 2nd new one was very bad, it was shaking, probably a true wheel/balance problem. The 3rd one was the purchasing dealer's shuttle van, it had a slight rumbling on the steering wheel above a certain speed. My 4 weeks old 01 MPV, has a very small/slight rumbling effect above 70kph. The interesting part is that it doesn't get worst as speed climbs, also the effect comes and goes, even at the same speed. So I am not sure it is wheel related, perhap it is feedback from the road surface condition. Complained to the dealer and Mazda Canada, dealer said that is MPV's firm suspension setting characteristic, lets you feel the road ... normal. I am monitor this issue. Also, some people may treat slight rumbling as shake, which is not the same. Nevertheless, there is something there, just have to determine whether it is normal or not!
  • ircairca Posts: 2
    Since purchasing our '00 LX last November, we have only had good experiences with the van, except for one thing that became more annoying as time went by. This sound reminded me of a buzz saw, a high pitch humming audible only upon acceleration. Thinking that something metal was vibrating, when I took it in for its 3000m checkup, the dealership determined that the exhaust heat shield was the cause for the humming sound. They checked to make certain that it was secured, which it was, and said the engines vibration carried to this metal shield and it vibrated. No other MPV owners have come in with a similar case, so maybe its just us.... Since that checkup the humming has been reduced if not already eliminated. Just wanted to pass this tidbit along to anyone who experiences the same......

    FYI..I've been keeping track of gas usage, and so far its averaged 19MPG, mostly city. Our first road trip won't be until summer, loaded with 2 kids and stuff, hope it can get that much!
  • Thanks for both your comments they will help a lot in finalizing my decision regarding the MPV.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I noticed that highway MPG was greatly affected by speed on our 3000 mile trip last summer. All through California I did about 85mph and averaged about 20 MPG. When I hit Oregon I had to drop down to 65mph and my mileage went over 24. It may also have to do with gasoline formulation, but the speed played a big role as well.

  • cdharvcdharv Posts: 2
    May be having transmission problems with the 2000 LX. Shifting between gears can be hesitant and rough when it tries to catch up with my intended acceleration. Also, when I engage the overdrive, my RPM's increase significantly. For example: going 70mph the RPMs will be about 2500, when I engage the overdrive, the RPMs will go to 4500. This goes against my limited knowledge and experience with overdrive. Shouldn't the RPMs decrease.

    I have taken the van in for a checkup. They say the transmission is fine and that the increase in RPMs during overdrive is the way it is designed.

    Any input or ideas? Thanks.
  • msgjvhmsgjvh Posts: 196
    That is how the OD works. The RPMS do dramatically increase. Ours shifts a bit rough also but they say its fine. I even had them keep it over night to do the pressure checks on it.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572 seems that you may be mistaking the engagement of OD with the disengagement of the OD. The OD is normally on unless you push the button on the end of the shift lever. You shouldn't have much need to use the OD-off switch unless you are driving in hilly or mountainous areas.

    Concerning the rough shift, is this when you downshift for passing, etc?

  • cdharvcdharv Posts: 2
    So, the overdrive is normally on? When I push the button on the end of the shift lever, the OD lights up on the dash.

    The rough shift and delay is definitely more pronounced when I try to accelerate quickly for passing. However, there is some annoying roughness while accelerating from a stoplight.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    cdharv, the light on the dash is the OD-off indicator as it is labeled.

    On some early 2000 MPVs, the trans seemed to have a faster shift(i.e. more abrupt) than the later models. I have had two 2000 MPVs and I noticed a big difference in the shifting between early and late production. I actually prefer the harder, quicker shift for power reasons, but that's just me.

  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167

    Do you know if the Mazda tranny has any learning functions (fuzzy logic?) built in, or is it a just normal electronic control?

    I personally love the shifts (once warmed up) of the tranny (early '00 model). When you stab (not floor) the loud pedal at 30-40, it double-steps down from fourth to second with a direct feeling that puts ya right in the meat of the torque curve, just above 4000rpm. I guess describing a slushbox as direct is an oxymoron, but what the hey.

    I've never really driven with the o/d off, so don't have any experience there.

  • bob57bob57 Posts: 302
    My 2001 runs at 3100RPM @ 70mph w/OD on. I noticed #911 post was running @ 2500 at the same speed. Anyone else out there with a 2001 running at that speed and RPM? 600 RPM isn't a huge difference but indicates a differential change or misreading the gauge.
    Need input (didn't that line come from some movie...?)
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    If that were the case you would have guides on how to tune your car as you drive like the cheaters guides for Playstation games. I can see it now..."EPA arrests drivers for teaching their cars smog tricks."

    The MPV is like my wife, I can't change her but I'm better for learning to live with her.

  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167

    Can I key in the "God" cheat-code then? There'd be no door dings or collision damage, and I could mess with the power, handling, aerodynamics models, lol! Hey, all it takes is a little c++ knowledge...

  • tboner1965tboner1965 Posts: 647
    How About...

    In java of course

    MPV mrsTbonersRide = new MPV();

  • tboner1965tboner1965 Posts: 647
    I couldn't put a bunch of these in one message, so I'm doing one at a time.

  • tboner1965tboner1965 Posts: 647
  • tboner1965tboner1965 Posts: 647

  • I really should refrain from calling Mazda automatics "slushboxes"; there's very little about them that's slushy. Maybe it's the accumulator design, maybe it's the solenoid timing, maybe it's Maybelline, but they all seem to have fairly firm shifts - even the Ford box in the four-cylinder 626.
  • dbs2001dbs2001 Posts: 46
    bob57 Re #917. My '01 also runs at 3100RPM @ 70mph w/OD on.

    maltb re 910. I'm sure speed had much to do with your mpg difference between CA & OR; however, it might also be the MTBE in our CA gas.

  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167
    Stop it TB, I'm gonna snort coffee out my nose...

    You forgot...

  • msgjvhmsgjvh Posts: 196
    Just changed the oil. Didn't notice a K&N oil filter before, there is one now!!
  • alexv1nalexv1n Posts: 248

    When you are fed up with MPV, do you do it like:

    CDealer someDealer = system.GetNearestDialer();

    Or you would just prefer:


    Or even:

    delete mrsJavadocRide;

    ??? :-)
  • evaddaveevaddave Posts: 156
    Late to the game, but I can't resist:

    MPV Maxine = new MPV();
    // You'd be amazed at how much junk these vans hold!
  • tboner1965tboner1965 Posts: 647
    I was thinking that the base class Vehicle has the following constructors.

    class Vehicle {

    public Vehicle (Vehicle tradein, Dealer sellingDealer) { ... }

    public Vehicle (Dealer sellingDealer)
    { ... }

    public Vehicle (Vehicle privatePartyBuyer, Dealer sellingDealer)
    { ... }



    Of course in Java you could simply do the following

    mrsJavadocRide = new Vehicle(yourFavoriteDealer);

    and let the built in gc collect the old vehicle when it is dereferenced.

    But then let's not get into the discussion about object oriented cows and farmers. I really don't want to get into who performs the milking. Where does the milk method belong, with the cow or with the farmer?

  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167
    It'd be:

    mrsJavadocRide=new Vehicle(AnchorageMercedesAMG)

    that'd be it...and I dunno about the farmer/cow debate, just as long as some of the milk gets to the coffeeshop!

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