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Mazda Millenia



  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    My '01 MM"P" had to have the knock sensor replaced at about 10000 miles and that cleared the CEL. There was no actual problem with the engine, fuel or ignition systems. It acted similar to your description before replacement. The light has never returned since, and I run 87 octane gas from any filling station that has a good turnover of gas. I wouldn't buy gas for any car from a station that has little business, to avoid water etc in the fuel.

    I have to say that I don't recognize your designation of "L" for your car. I thought they were either "S" for supercharged or "P". I think there was an "L" for luxury a few years back though.
  • claudia2claudia2 Posts: 3
    I will get codes today(Tuesday) and post this evening am going to local mechanic who is willing to do Free compression test. thanks for your response, later, Claudia
  • j30j30 Posts: 30
    I too have an 02P and since new about twice a year my CEL would come on and about 6 months ago I happened to be out and going past the dealer when the light was on and it ended up being a knock sensor, so if your car is still under warranty, go in and have them fix it...
    I now have 39000 on mine so I am almost out of warranty, I'm not real worried, the car has always run fine, and the sensor was the only thing to be repaired.
    I'll probably need tires in another 10000 or so, the OEM Michelin are great and plan on sticking with them.
  • digerattidigeratti Posts: 1
    Me and my girlfriend are looking at a 1998 Milli has 89,000 kilometres on it. It's priced at $8,950 Canadian with an optional $1900 3 year 60,000 km warranty. I'm going to take it to my mechanic later today and if it checks out I'm most likely going to buy it. Our only concern is that you need the premium fuel because of the supercharger and all. We're both students, me in college and her in uni, so we don't exactly have a pile of money. So if anyone has any advice on the car or knows of a good Milli mechanic in the Guelph, Kitchener-Waterloo area I would really appreciate the help.
  • cbass2cbass2 Posts: 1
    Hello Edmunds Family,
    I'm hoping that some of the car educated members here can help me make a choice about a car.
    I'm currently trying to make my mind up between the following vehicles:

    2001 Mazda Millenia P, 27K miles, dealer asking $ 14,500

    2003-04 Mazda 6i 2.3L Automatic, $ 14000-$15000

    2001-2002 Acura TL-S, 45-50K miles, $ 16000-$ 17000

    My concerns are: The Mazda Mill P, I've read some concerning posts on Edmunds with the Mill.I'd like stick with the P, because it's non supercharged and possible problems in the future with the supercharger. I'd like to have the extra power, but I'd like to hear from owners if the 170 2.5L P is really underpowered in day to day driving? Would this car be a safe purchase also considering it's a 2001 model and is the asking price right?

    I like the handling of the Mazda 6i, I just wished it had more power from the 4cyl automatic. From what I've read, the 6s, with the 3.0L V6 is not a major upgrade over the 4i, due to both engines do not have a lot of low end grunt.

    My concerns with the Acura is, higher miles, asking price, and 2001-02 having transmission problems. Many were replaced during 2001-02 years.

    Please post your thoughts. I'm looking to purchase a car this weekend or within the next week.


  • j30j30 Posts: 30
    All I can tell you is we are very happy we bought our 02P, as far as it being underpowered, mine is fine although I live in flat Florida. I never have to floor it, the power is just fine and I average 26MPG, I hope to have this car for another 7 years...
  • heybradyheybrady Posts: 75
    Being partially biased, I think your best bet is the 01 Mill P.

    Reasons: Mazda6 have shown poor reliability from Consumer Reports and is off their Recommended List (First Mazda Mill/626 in a long time not to make it). Most likely due to being the first model year on a complete redesign.

    Acura is a little expensive for a car with 50k on it. Plus you already mentioned tranny problems and you would be outside warranty already.

    I have a 99P, which I bought 2 years ago with 34k, and now have 88k. It is exactly the same car, save some interior and headlight/taillight changes. If I am not mistaken, it is 180/85hp on the P. Either way, yes, it is not a racecar from a dead stop. With that being said, going from 55-85 is a breeze, and very fun to do. This car feels right at home doing 80mph cruising on the highway. No shakes, rattles, etc. I have also had no problems other than replacing front wheel bearings, which was very inexpensive. Very satisfied with the fit and finish of this car. Not to mention, you wont be driving the same car as 99% those in the parking lot with you.
  • mnoghostmnoghost Posts: 11
    i paid $15,400 for my 02 L in may of 04, the car had 13,400 miles on it when i bought it, guess i got lucky
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    My '01 MMP has just under 16000 miles, and has a flawless reliability record other than having to replace the Knock Sensor at about 10000 miles. If it continues to be the outstanding car it has been to this point, I will drive it until it dies of old age. I really do enjoy it that much. As far as being a dog, that is subjective. It is no Viper or 'Vette and I wouldn't try to drag race a Maxima. But not being a member of the Stop Light Gran Prix Association I find the power far more than adequate for normal use and the car is a joy to own and drive. Having had at least 20 cars in my life I find my MM by far the most pleasant of the bunch which includes American, French and other Japanese brands.

    I believe you will enjoy it as much as I do. And the 9.2 (out of 10) "Consumer Rating" above this column, as well as the Consumer Reports reliabillity rating in their April issue should give you a good idea of what others think about their MM's as well as their outstanding reliability. Click that link at the top and you can read a lot about Millenias.
  • New to this for this reason, I have an 01 MM, the airbag light started blinking about a month ago, blink for a week quit for 2 days etc., yesterday, it went of the check engine light then came on, 2 minuts later the tcsoff light, then the hold ligh, and then the TCS. I pulled the battery and everything went back to normal for about 15 minutes, now the hold light is the only thing blinking. The car has been well taken care of and has 78K on it, any ideas????
  • I have an 01 MM with 78K miles, well taken care of. About a month ago the airbag light started blinking go for a few days then stop, then start again. Yesterday, I started the car the airbag light went of and the CEL came on, then the TCS OFF light, THen the HOLD light, and then the TCS. I can not tell any drive differences. I pulled the battery and reattached it and everything was normal, for about 15 min until the hold light has come back on. Any Ideas would be great, I do not want to pay 85 bucks an hour to have a 19 year old investigate for a day and a half before he says IDUNNAKNOW.
  • heybradyheybrady Posts: 75
    I'm no mechanic, but I would go to Auto Zone and have them read the code from the CEL. They will do it for free and give you the code that is output. Once you have the code, it isn't too hard to find the description using google. There may even be a link in past posts. That will at least point you in the right direction, rather than that 19year old paying for the dealship's kids to go to college.
  • mmerchantmmerchant Posts: 18
    There have been a number of concerns about the blinking air bag light and I just wish to address this. The fact is that the air bag or the module needs to be replaced. When the blinking light first appeared in my 01 Millenia S the air bag control module for the passenger side was replaced. The blinking continued and then the air bag on the same side was replaced. The blinking returned after several months, but this was related to the air bag on the passenger seat. Once this was replaced the blinking went away. I am surprised that the dealers in many cases have been resetting the battery. In my case, the air bags were replaced under warranty
  • All of the other lights have stopped as soon as I hooked a computer up to the car... all except the air bag light. I have seen this complaint all over the place with the MM, really the only complaint. You would think Mazda would recall it for that reason. Can you explain in a little more detail what you did to fix the problem?
  • edward780edward780 Posts: 9
    hi a am having a problem with tcs off light. car will run great for about 15 minutes then tcs off light comes on and tcs problem light comes on. if i turn key off then on it will reset only to happen again in about 15 minutes. after doing this for several times the cel comes on. i checked and rechecked all vacuum hoses but could not find anythig. also checked the soloniods. one thing i found is that the solinoid for abv vac and abv vent seam to be energized all the time when engine is running. any help would be great as i am going crazy with this problem
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hi edward780, welcome!

    You might want to try the Got a Quick, Technical Question? discussion also ... good luck!
  • rmexkcrmexkc Posts: 7
    I've got a '98 Millenia S w/ 109,000 miles, it's been a great car, no problems until recently. The check engine light use to turn on and off, now it just stays on - my dealer charged me $85 to tell me it was an O2 sensor that would cost $400 to replace. My airbag light has been blinking for about 30,000 miles, ever since I got a new battery. My friend had a '92 MX6 that did the same thing...What bothers me the most is the clicking sound from my suspension/wheel area when I'm turning. There's also a slight knocking noise coming from the suspension even if I'm driving on smooth road. Any thoughts and ideas of what this could be, any ballpark estimates of what this could cost? I live in the Kansas City area, any of you out there know a good mazda mechanic in this area? Any input would be appreciated, thanks.
  • mmerchantmmerchant Posts: 18
    When the air bag light is blinking there is an associated code specifying which air bag is malfunctioning. The Mazda dealer has replaced 2 air bags (passenger dashboard, passenger seat) and a control unit over the past 12-18 months. The problem has gone.
  • mmerchantmmerchant Posts: 18
    I can mention about the clicking noise which is more apparent during warmer days. In my case it is on the left front suspension and occurs at low speeds or while car is still and the steering is turned (nothing to do with CV joints). The replacement of the suspected bushings on the upper left control arm did not help. This morning the left suspension link was replaced. I'll find out later today if this has resolved the problem and will specify the part number if the problem has been eliminated. We might have a similar problem here but the technician at my Mazda dealership has said he will get to the bottom of this issue if the problem is still present after today's work.
  • ohmygoshohmygosh Posts: 66
    I am contemplating selling my '99 Millenia S and would like any feedback on what I can expect to get for the car. It is just getting into the 50,000 mile mark and is in excellent condition. It is fully loaded and I have kept all service records. I love the car but it is time to make a change. I am in the Phila. area.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Besides asking here, you might also hop over to the Real-World Trade-In Values discussion and ask Terry. Be sure to read the posting guidelines (in red) so you can give him all the info he'll need to tell you what it's worth.
  • I purchased a black Millenia new back in '99. Had all the bells and whistles except not the "S" model.. That was a mistake as far as handling/performance was concerned. For some reason I test drove it, fell in love with the looks and the luxury, got a great deal, paid 23k, sticker was close to 30k.

    I had buyers remorse for 6 years.

    This is one car that I just didn't enjoy owning and was very disappointed on how it held up. I had the clicking/banging noise coming out of the suspension, the O2 sensor light always on,(had the sensor replaced and a year later it needed to be replaced again), it was slow, handled horribly, and the worst was the transmission. Every so often, the tranny would just freeze up and not shift, the TCS light and hold light would both go on for absolutely no reason and I was stuck in first gear. And no I didn't accidently hit both buttons to cause this. (I had to pull over and shut the engine then restart to resolve it) This was a recurring issue and happened several times.
    This past year the car started stalling.

    Other issues were, heat wouldn't kick in unless I was going over 40 mph, I couldn't change the airflow, stuck in the front vent only positions.

    The car had 93k miles and finally I had enough. GM put these amazing rebates on the Saab 92x, the dealer was motivated to sell and offered me a great trade in price.

    The 92x is smaller, less luxurios (but still not bad), but its everything that the Millenia is not. It's fast, agile and well built (its really a Suburu with Saab styling and touches).

    So I finally have a fun car again. The Mazda was a personal nightmare. It is a nice looking vehicel though. Probably the nicest looking car I ever had.
  • rmexkcrmexkc Posts: 7
    Apollo - What did you get for your trade?
  • mameomanmameoman Posts: 2
    this strange "whine" sound starts & then stops when I stop accelerating...air filter?? accelerator cable?? I have no idea !! any suggestions on how to fix it, please...its a 1999 S with the miller engine...thanks alot for any answers
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 1999 Mazda Millenia S V6-2.3L DOHC (Miller cycle).

    0500101 APR 01 A/T - Whining/Ringing Noise in Interior

    If I remember correctly it is caused by a transmission cable. Your Mazda dealer should be able to fill you in on it, but it looks like AllData has started charging for the information.

    This has been discussed here before and if you go back a little in this thread you might be able to find the info here.

    See messages 3307-08 and 3310.
  • rmexkcrmexkc Posts: 7
    What the heck is a Miller Cycle engine? What's with Mazda and these weird engines?
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    "Ralph Miller patented his Miller-cycle engine in the 1940s, and for the last several years Mazda has been using this type of engine in some of its cars.

    A Miller-cycle engine is very similar to an Otto-cycle engine. The Miller-cycle uses pistons, valves, a spark plug, etc., just like an Otto-cycle engine does. There are two big differences:

    * A Miller-cycle engine depends on a supercharger.
    * A Miller-cycle engine leaves the intake valve open during part of the compression stroke, so that the engine is compressing against the pressure of the supercharger rather than the pressure of the cylinder walls. The effect is increased efficiency, at a level of about 15 percent. "

    If you do a Google search you can find all you want to know about any type of engine.

    Miller cycle is no more weird than other innovative engine configurations used by Honda, Ford etc. Try VTEC for example. I'd personally call them innovative engineering. If not for this type of engines we would still have Model T's instead of modern cars.
  • willopadwillopad Posts: 4
    Can anyone tell me if the schematics for the Bose audio system of a 99 S are available over an internet website for free? The previous owner of my vehicle disconnected the rear speakers to install one of those god-awful baboom subwoofers in the trunk. I want to restore it to the original setup, but my stereo engineer needs to know what wire goes where in order to fix it. Any help out there besides going to a dealer (where I'm sure I'll be told that they don't handle these type of cases)? I'm also having trouble with the cassette deck; it keeps on ejecting the cassettes as soon as I put them into the deck. Any thoughts about this one? Is it toast or is there hope for a repair of it?

  • rmexkcrmexkc Posts: 7
    That's a good way to look at it, Watson. If I can increase efficiency, I'm all for it. Now if I could just figure out why my '98 Milli S is getting crappy gas mileage.....and what makes it cough when I shift it into D in the morning....what that rattle is in my driver's side door....why sometimes after my commute home at speeds of up to 80, I get home, I park and I smell burning oil....I guess this stuff happens when the odometer hits 110,000 miles. It's a little slow off the line, but I'm not racing anyone. However, when I punch it doing 65, I'm at 80 in no time. My Millenia rules.
  • heybradyheybrady Posts: 75
    There can't be enough said about how much fun it is to go from 60-80 in this car. Smooth like butter....
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