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  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,342
    My Infiniti M35x has the ventilated seats and Lane Departure System. Both are almost never used. If anything, the LDS is more of an annoyance. The ventilated seats work OK, but not worth the extra money. Save your money. Pass on those two options.

    I had the options on my M35 Sport. I totally agree!
  • My two cents: I have a 535 with black interior and live in Texas. I did not get the ventilated seats and its no big deal. The AC works fine and I have yet to soak a shirt. I also chose against the lane departure system. When I was looking at the M, it seemed most folks in the forum turned it off as it was annoying. Lastly, I kept the grey headliner and it looks just fine. I'd vote for getting the good stuff like the ipod adaptor, logic 7 stereo etc.
  • sb55sb55 On an Island in VermontPosts: 321
    I had a 2004 545i 6 speed and sport package. It had the Active Steering packaged with the sport package back then. I thought the active steering was great and wish I had that car back!!

    2007 Miata PRHT, 2014 BMW 535d X-drive, 2017 Chevy Silverado LTZ Ext. cab with 6.2 V-8

  • I am looking at a 2008 535xi. I emailed BMW about thier re-design timetable because I intensely dislike buying a new car and then it is re-designed the very next year!! Here is an excerpt of their response:

    "The 5 Series received its last major re-design in 2004 and was freshened for the 2007/2008 model years. We do not anticipate another major overhaul until the 2011 model year"

    Hope this helps!
  • Sure Does!!! Thanks for the great news! I too dislike driving a car that has been redesigned.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,104
    I too dislike driving a car that has been redesigned.

    For me, it all depends. There are certainly plenty of vehicles out there where an older design is better looking than a newer one. :)

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    Well, I just had to do this.... the E 39 rules. And, ironically, I got my E39 in 2003 (last year of production), knowing that the redesign was coming. Some cars are just timeless.

    I felt the same way about the older Jag XJ6...
  • mmoreno1978,

    FWIW, my experience ordering a 535Xi is the sport package per se does not include the style 124 wheels. They are an additional option, if you also get the sport package.

  • lovemyclklovemyclk Posts: 351
    Me too! And I drove the 2004 e60 in Germany prior to the US launch. Still loving my '03 e39 530SP. Has been a flawless ownership experience to date...
  • Does the 550 have the guzzler tax? I didn't think so but in the Edmunds video review of an 06, they say it does?

    Also, has the engine been re-tuned for a quicker 0-60 time?
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,926
    Oddly enough, the guzzler tax is charged only on the manual equipped 550i.
  • Not a big fan of the standard rims, but they're easier to clean. To just add other rims, there's no cost differential to change them. Essentially you'll get the originals + the new ones and the costs involved. I'd check EBay b/c there are alot of folks out there who remove whatever rims are stock and replace them w/custom. My neighbor has a M5, replaced the stock rims w/some customs at 10k for the set. The higher end BMW, the more you'll see customs swapped for originals and the longer a wheel style is out, the more available.
  • Oddly enough, the guzzler tax is charged only on the manual equipped 550i.

    Does the manual get worse mileage than the auto?
  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    Does the manual get worse mileage than the auto?

    Just the opposite. Crazy world.

  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    I recently ordered a 2008 535i, and I'll be putting snow tires on it. I'm getting rid of a Lexus GS300 which I have snow tires for, and I could use those tires on the 535, but I'm not sure if that would be the best move.

    The tires I have now are Dunlop WinterSport M3's (love 'em) in 225/50-17. This is also the standard tire size on the 535.

    I'm getting the sport package on the 535, which gives me 245/40R-18 front and 275/35R-18 rear. I can get the Dunlop WinterSport M3's in this setup, but would I get better traction using the 17 inch tires? From what I understand, the smaller tire gives better traction due to the increased pressure on the smaller contact patch. Is this true?

    As I see it, here are my options:

    1) Use 225/50-17 at all four corners, and enjoy better traction. Would also have to get another 17 inch tire to use as a spare since the 'space saver' that comes with the SP is 18 inch.

    2) Use the 245/275 setup, and enjoy better performance when dry but suffer with loss of traction in snow. Would not need another tire as spare.

    I'll be buying new rims for either setup, so that isn't a factor.

    Is my understanding correct? Are there any other options I'm missing?
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,664
    I see you are from Salem NH. I , used to be next door in Atkinson (now live in Loudon) and drive an E39 (2000MY 528iA) so I'm familiar w winter conditions in your area.

    I decided to prioritize traction and go w the narrower, smaller diameter tire because I live atop a long steep hill.
    (225-55-15 Blizzaks)

    If you live in a relatively flat area and do most of your driving on roads like I-93 and I-495 you could be alright on 245-40-17 but if you find it neccessary to be on secondary roads in bad weather you should go with the "traction" setup IMO.

    In no case would I consider a 275 size tire for your driving wheels. I really think you're asking for trouble w something that wide. :surprise:

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    I've spent some time in Loudon - nice area.

    Thanks for the feedback! 15 inch for you, huh? The stock setup with the 535 is 225-50-17. I'm no tire expert - can I pick anything in the 225-50 range, like 225-50-16, or 225-50-15? If so, am I losing anything by going with the smaller size?
  • jb_shinjb_shin Posts: 357
    Go to and see what they recommend. They usually follow the factory recommendation in terms of sizing.

    e39 528 models had smaller brake rotors than the later 530, which used 540 set up and can't use anything less than 16 inch wheels. Yours may have the same limitation, so I'd definitely check with tirerack.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,342
    Oddly enough, the guzzler tax is charged only on the manual equipped 550i.

    Hmmm....double check this as the guzzler tax MAY be on all 550's with SP's.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Windham checking in. ;-)

    As a general rule, go with the 225 section width tires mounted on the smallest wheels you can get to fit around your brakes (which are 16s). No one has mentioned this, and I assume you already know it, but I feel I need to point this out, the wheels from your GS300 are guaranteed NOT to fit your 535i.

    As I see it, you have two options:
    1) Buy a complete new set of wheels and tires (225/55 R16 mounted on 16x7 or 16x7.5 wheels) and peddle your set for the GS.
    2) Buy a new set of 17x7.5, 17x8.0 or 17x8.5 wheels and mount the Dunlops from the GS on them. Then you can peddle just the wheels from the GS.

    Keep us posted. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • rblelandrbleland Posts: 312
    I have a 535xi on order, and it will come with the 17" wheels standard. I will be using those wheels for snows, and adding 4 Blizzaks in 225/50-17 V rated. I am trading the All-Seasons in for credit against the snows. In March or so I will get a new set of BMW OEM wheels in 18" size and new summer tires for them. That's my solution.
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    Thanks for checking in, Windham. ;)

    >"the wheels from your GS300 are guaranteed NOT to fit your 535i."

    Yep - knew that, but thanks for making sure. I never bought an extra set of wheels for the GS, so they have to stay where they are. I'm sure when I Lemon the car they'll want it with wheels.

    >"Buy a complete new set of wheels and tires (225/55 R16 mounted on 16x7 or 16x7.5 wheels) and peddle your set for the GS."

    That's probably what I'll end up doing. I'm still in the process of building my tire kung-fu, so I have a question: what does the 7 or 7.5 in 16X7/16X7.5 represent? I know all the other numbers, but not this one. Can either one be used with a 225/55 tire?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    When it comes to wheel size, the first number (i.e. 16, 17, 18...) represents the diameter of the wheel itself, while the second number represents the width of the rim.

    With regard to the different width wheels I listed for you, they will all work with the tire applications that I listed. That said, the only ones I'd stay away from (unless you really like the wheels) are the 17x8.5 wheels. They are just wide enough that the tire sidewalls won't be able to protect them from curb rash as well as the slightly narrower wheels. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    Got it - thanks again. ;)

    Looks like it's going to be 225/55-16, depending on the price of the BMW wheels. I'll give Bavarian Auto Works a call to see if they sell the specific wheels I'm looking for. Maybe they'll even let me pick them up and save some money on shipping...
  • I just ordered the 550 with sport package in automatic and no gas guzzler charge. Is it possible that the 08s now are not subjected to that tax?
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,926
    '07 automatics weren't charged either. I think it's a ploy by BMW to force people away from the manual transmission so they can force the mostly unwanted SMG on those of us who want a manual. Dirty dealing if you ask me.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,880
    I would be very surprised if 16" wheels would fit over the brakes on a new 535...


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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    TireRack is currently carrying two models of 16x7.0" wheels and two models of 16x7.5" wheels that fit the 535i.

    Best Regards,
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