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Lexus LS 400/LS 430



  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    Best of luck. You've been tracking this car and the LX for awhile now and when you do that bnuying or leasing becomes inevitable.

    It's a phenomenal car as you are already realizing. The bad news is that it's going to be very hard to accept anything else in the future - regardless of price - because it is that phenomenal. In my opinion it remains the best lux car in the world under $100k and maybe over $100K as well. But I haven't driven the latter so I can't say for sure. That is a great deal that you got as well. Can't come close to that around here. Residuals are holding up very strong on the LS which is great for the leasing crowd.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Wow that is a good deal! What part of the country is this?
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    It's a South Florida dealer. I'm not sure if I can name dealers on here so I'll leave it at that.

    I could not believe the deal was real until I was sitting at my dining room table signing the contracts. These fellas must've really needed an extra sale for November.

    I guess it comes down to luck... finding the right car at the right time at the right dealership.

    When the sales rep offered to deliver the vehicle to my doorstep (an hour away) I almost fell out of my chair!
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    That's Lexus service for you. Is this your first Lexus?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    You can name the dealership if you wish, but you may not name sales people nor give any contact info.

    Congrats on what sounds like a great deal and a great car - hope you'll hang around and share your ownership experiences.

    For everyone - the Rules of the Road linked at the top of the page provide a clear and easy to read set of guidelines.

    And you can always email your host if have other questions!

  • Was called yesterday and told that the upgraded nav. disc had arrived and that I could stop by for a 10-15 minute swap. After one and one half hours I finally got the car back and not even washed. Not consistent with Lexus service that I've read about on this board. Lexus of Massapequa is listed as an elite dealer but my experience with them both on the buying and service side has been disappointing I love the car so that's the most important thing. But from reading here it's clear that the total luxury experience is not consistent and is dependent on the dealer you use. I am thinking of driving a bit out of my way to use another Lexus dealer who I suppose would be happy to service the car.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    My wife has an '02 RX300. Her's has been trouble free for 25 thousand miles. There are two other Lexus cars in the immediate family -- LS430 Ultra, LX470.

    This is the first Lexus I buy as my own personal vehicle and daily driver. I don't think I'll regret it!

    I've been playing around with the interior... every button, every switch, has such a high quality feel to it. For example, pull down on the hand holds and release... they SLOWLY glide back into position. Need to open the coin holder? Push the little button and it gently pulls open.

    I'm like a giddy little kid on Christmas morning. This is wonderfully ridiculous!!!
  • Have you found the small sunshade over the rearview mirror yet, or seen how the coathooks retract? I assume you were shown the storage compartments under the front seats.
  • I have had my car for a long time and I didn't know about the small Sun Screen above the Rear View Mirror...THANKS

    It truly is an awesome car to own.
  • garyh1garyh1 Posts: 386
    Congratulations. Your excellent price reconfirms exactly what I posted on the Prices Paid/Buying Experience forum after buying my LS at the end of the previous month: the easiest way to get a really good deal is to find a dealer who needs the sale, and buy (or lease) an in-stock car on the last day of the month.

    Here I am one month later and I am still figuring out things about the car (and the manual is still on my nightstand for late night browsing). For instance, I discovered that you can re-program the Smart Key to open all doors (instead of just the driver's door) when you touch the driver's door. I had been led to believe that this was something that had to be done by the dealer, but that is not the case. See p. 30 of the manual.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    There's also the voice activation button on the steering wheel for the nav and the cushions between the front seats and center console to catch anything that falls in between them. I didn't discover the under the seat compartment for the first year I owned the car so Steve gave you a good one there.

    Michael - with your expert knowledge on this car that one surprised me. It is a great asset for near sunset driving particularly as you ascend and descend bridges.

    Gteach - the heated/cooled seats need someone sitting in them to work. Put a great CD in that ML and accelerate to 70-80 and you'll feel like the king of the world. Just make sure there aren't any troopers around.

    One thing to look out for though is that the headlights don't shut off if you leave a door open. So double check those in your garage. Someone posted that a long time ago here and I noticed it one day when I was taking a package out of the rear seat and failed to close the door. Came out two hours later to walk the dog and the garage was well lit from my headlights. Perhaps they fixed this small blemish on the 2005. But the door closers will always shut a door that is left ever so slightly open if you have them. But they may only be on customs and ultras.

    By the way what is your all in lease with sales tax?
  • Len -
    Still the same on the 2005. I find the trunk lid to be the culprit more than the doors. My wife has run the battery down on the SC twice in 6 mos because of the trunk lid. It doesn't have a power pull down (probably to avoid damaging the roof if it's retracted and something is on top of it) and if it's the least bit up the light stays on. If it fails to catch fully or, given the miniscule lift you get when you use the remote, if you accidently hit the trunk button it can be impossible to see. With the two identical Lexus keys (when I still had the 2001 LS) it was easy to use the wrong key. I am now in the habit of pulling up on the trunk to make sure it's closed everytime it's opened. I don't know why the light switch can't turn off when the trunk (or doors)is within a half-inch or so of fully closed or there can't be a time out function after 15 minutes or so.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I'm at $738 and change with tax included. I'll post all the lease details in "prices paid" as soon as I get a chance to sit at my home computer with the lease contract in front of me.

    I found the seat compartments... great place for knick knacks.... I have not found the rear view mirror sunshade you guys are talking about. The rear WINDOW has a power sunshade but not the rearview MIRROR.. correct?

    I'll be poking through the manual for weeks to come! By the time I figure it all out I'll have to turn this baby in!

    Oh, and, I WILL be getting a speeding ticket in this car.. I can smell that already. :)
  • It's a small round padded shade above the rearview mirror that you rotate down and it covers the space above the mirror and the top of the windshield.
  • Currently own a 2003 GS Sport Edition. New GS due in March as an 06 model and it looks good but was wondering if anybody knows when the LS will be redesigned or at least freshened.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    Per Consumer reports - 2006. But I think it is actually going to be March or April 2007 as a 2007 model. Complete redesign with a look like the LFS but stretched is supposed to be what we will see. There will supposedly be hybrid options and a 2007 super hybrid version with 600HP and there may be longer wheelbase options as well. They've also said the 600 HP hybrid will get the next gen battery and it will get 50 miles per gallon (I assume this is city driving and highway should be lower). I would assume a lower power V8 will do as good or better in mpg. Expect a decent, if not long waiting list for this thing in hybrid form.
  • Took delivery of my 2005 LS430 on Wednesday. This is my 3rd Lexus (my wife drives a 2003 RX300). All I can say is what a car! I had been looking at the Mercedes E, the Audi A6 and the Acura RL. Decided to stop in to Lexus at the end of the month just to see what the numbers were for the LS. Asked my sales rep. to "humor me" with the numbers for a lease. Boy am I glad I did. Leased a black on black with Modern Luxury Package, 18 inch wheels and Smart Access.

    36 mos. 12k miles per yr
    $735 per month (includes tax)
    $4000 at inception (includes 1st month, bank fee, security, registration and tags and cap. cost of $1500)

    My office is only 6 miles from my house but I've already managed to put almost 200 miles on the odometer just driving around. The ride home from work last night took an hour....Can't wait to play around with all the toys this weekend.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    This car presents me with a new adventure every time I get into it. I'm sure it'll be the same for you!! Have fun!!

    Okay... I have a couple of questions that the manual hasn't helped me out on...

    1. Is there a way to set up Smart Access to lock the doors automatically upon leaving the vehicle without pressing the black button on the door handle? (The epitome of laziness, I know, but I'd like to set it up that way if possible.).


    2. Twice now I've had a hard time turning the starter knob to start the car. It seems to get locked and I have to jiggle the steering wheel back and forth and try a few times to start the car. Normal?

    Oh, and I found the rearview mirror sunshade.. Oh boy!!


    Also... I've posted all of my lease details in the "LS prices paid board" in case anybody cares.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    1. No - at least none that I know of. I tend to still use the key to lock at night so that the lights go out immediately.

    2. Happened a few times to me at the beginning but hasn't happened in a long time now. It's a function of how you parked.
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    It continues to be almost impossible to find out what Lexus is doing with the redesigned LS and the time table for its release. However, maybe the link below highlighting the recent trademark filings of new engines for several auto manufacturers including LEXUS tells us something.

    Check out the engine specs including the hybrid versions.... I am tempted to say that the LS may simply run on the 450h motor, maybe in the same mold as the RX400h.

    I sure hope you are right, Len, with the timetable and highlights of the next LS.
  • Re: starter knob sticking.
    Remember to push the key inward before turning.
  • paulrlpaulrl Posts: 11
    As the end of Nov30 I paid only $52988 for 2005LS430 with must have option sticker price $59144 Anybody like to buy one call Park Place Lexus in Grapevine Tx Tel.817 4163100
  • The light switches for the doors and trunk have a long travel past the off point. I'm going to get some of the small 1/4-1/2" rubber stick on bumpers and put them on top of the switches to see if I can get them to turn out the lights even if the door or trunk are ajar. This will almost certainly defeat any door or trunk ajar warning. I don't know how I feel about doing that with the doors, but at least on the SC trunk something I'm willing to trade-off. It's impossible to see if that is closed or open. I'll let you know in a few days what happens. (unless wwest has tried this already).
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Learned to live with it, I always (well, most of the time) make sure the doors are fully closed, and keep a battery charger nearby.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    Did I read somewhere you are buying an X3? Friends of ours just leased one and are sorry they did. Bumpy and noisy ride is the reason. They are basically Lexus people who wanted to try something else for a change. Just a heads-up.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Taking factory delivery, 4 week tour of Europe. If I decide I don't like it during those four weeks when it gets to the US I will either convert it to air suspenion or sell it.

    Figure it will be, altogether, cheaper that renting a car that may not be my choice.
  • Did you get Modern Luxury and Smart Key?
  • paulrlpaulrl Posts: 11
    the packages;1 Premium Package
    2 Smart Key 3 18-inch all-season tires
  • Encountered my first annoyance today,and I'm not sure where to channel my frustration - Lexus or Verizon Wireless. My '05 LS has the navigation and voice recognition as part of the Modern Luxury Package. So I went to the local cellular store where Lexus sent me to upgrade to a bluetooth phone that I could integrate with the car. Well, Verizon has only 1 bluetooth capable phone -the v710. Nice phone but.....not fully functional with the Lexus. I cannot transfer the phonebook to the car, I do not get a ring tone when a call comes in (although the audio cuts out and the nav screen shows that there is an incoming call), and, most importantly, I can not initiate a call through the voice recognition command. As such, I can only initiate a call from a number stored in my phone book by flipping the phone open and accessing the phone # and hit send on the phone. Annoying to say the least considering the car has voice recognition. To compound my frustration, I am told that other cell service providers, i.e., Cingular AT&T, have fully functioning/compatible phones that will fully integrate via bluetooth into the LS. The Verizon dealer told me I should call Lexus and [non-permissible content removed] about it (he says many customers are unhappy). Does anyone know of this issue? Does anyone know if Lexus and Verizon are working on a fix? The simple solution is to drop Verizon and switch to Cingular, but I have been with Verizon for so long now I would rather not switch. I have heard that there are service/accessibility issues with Cingular. Any suggestions????
  • cove148cove148 Posts: 117
    What is the advantages/disadvantages of 18" wheels vs 17" on the LS430?
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