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Volvo S60



  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    Better than the EPA 18/26. For that first year, I lived in the country and did a lot of highway miles in trips to cities. In good weather on good roads, I would get 30-33 mpg. City mileage drops it considerably, but my overall accumulated average, is still about 25 mpg. It drops noticeably in winter and increases in summer. My last tank, which had lots of city mileage along with a couple of longer highway trips (I've moved back to the city), was about 23 mpg. For a 300 hp AWD vehicle with only a 6 speed transmission, I am very pleased.

    I hear they will now be offering the T5 with AWD. That would be a good choice as well. Two things I would change with the car if I could: an 8 speed transmission should be offered, and I wish mine had been set up with the comfort suspension with 17" wheels, rather than the dynamic one. Milwaukee has far too many streets in dire need of resurfacing.
  • jccai1jccai1 Posts: 106
    Thanks for sharing your experience.

    How's the turning radius on your T6? On the last generation S60, the turning radius was huge, even for a FWD car. I wonder if the new model has improved in this area.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    THe FWD model is better than the AWD in that regard. Having a straight 6's length between the front wheels makes the turning circle larger. However, I have never encountered a situation where it seemed too big for my needs.
  • billherrmannbillherrmann Posts: 111
    Any indication from Volvo when the 2013s will arrive?
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    Nothing appears to be that much different from the 2012s. However, the XC90 and the S80 should both be new in 2014. I am still hoping that they will reconsider and bring either the XC40 or S40 here. Volvo needs more models...and more dealers.
  • jpek42jpek42 Posts: 1
    I test drove a new 2013 A60 (T5 AWD) in Michigan over the weekend, and will have an overnight TD tonight. So ... they're out. Very nice vehicle!
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 123
    Just took delivery of a Flamenco Red 2013 S60 T5 (FWD). I have the Platinum, Climate and Tech packages plus blind spot warning. I am learning and playing with all the new technology. If anyone is interested, I'll post my impressions in a couple of weeks.
  • tea5tea5 Posts: 1
    For 2013 options are now bundled in packages. The rear view camera, previously a freestanding option, appears to now only be bundled with the highest-level Platinum package. Can this be true? Rearview cameras are mundane and inexpensive but very useful. Am I required to purchased a built-in navigation system with less functionality than my smartphone if I want a rearview camera on this vehicle?
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    Most options were always bundled in packages since the 2011 new body. The rear camera has never been a free standing option. The FRONT camera was a free standing option, however. With 2013 models, the front camera now reads posted speed limits and reports them to your digital readout. I don't know that it is worth paying extra for, but a rear camera is very useful as you say.

    Volvo seems a bit slow in spreading some options (like the rear camera and keyless go) across the line. I think they cut here and there on less loaded cars to bring the price in under some of the European competition.

    I have the rear camera on mine, because I also have the nav system. It may not be state of the art, but I like it a lot. The screen is easy to read, it takes verbal commands easily, hushes the stereo while delivering commands, and nvariably routes me around traffic jams in real time. My smart phone may do things as well or better, but Bluetooth is another level of complication to get verbal commands to work as easily. Volvo also provides you with two free nav updates that come at about 18 month intervals.

    Volvos are great cars and the S60 is the safest car out there, bar none. Getting all the bells and whistles can be done with a greater discount than some other brands. Plus, wait six months and buy a loaded certified used which will have a better warranty than a new one, and be indistinguishable from new.

    If you really want a new car without nav, you could also go with European delivery. You get an instant 7% discount, plus a free European vacation, and the ability to order cars in ways they are not delivered here.
  • cheisecheise Posts: 1
    I have a catalytic converter from a 2006 S-60 T5 I would like to sale. It was taken off the vehicle by the dealer at approximately 5k. Does anyone have advice regarding a fair asking price and best way go about the sale?
  • vwdawgvwdawg Posts: 162
    Hi Gregg: You seem to be in the know about a Yank purchasing a Volvo in Europe, doing the vaca thing and having it shipped to the States. Does the cost of shipping it end up being more than the 7% discount? Can one buy any Volvo model there, including the S60's with the smaller (1.4 L) diesels...i.e., can the diesels be legally shipped across the pond. The whole idea appeals to me! Thanks for info... vwdawg
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    The 7% discount includes r/t airline tickets for two, a factory tour and the shipping home when you are done with your fly/drive. You cannot of course import a car with an engine that is not certified for sale here. However, you can get some options that do not affect emissions that are available there but not offered here, such as the heated rear seats.
  • I recently leased a 2013 Volvo S60 T5 FWD with premier plus and climate packages. I am very happy with the look and feel of the interior and the way that it drives. It is smooth and has plenty of power. The only two issues that I have are that there is very little rear passenger leg room (which isn't really an issue for me since I have two carseats in the back), and the suspension isn't great (I feel every bump). All in all, I am very happy.
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 123
    I've had a FWD 2013 S60 for about 6 mos. Great car! Mine rides very smoothly on good roads, bumpy on rougher roads. Check your tire pressure. When I got mine home all 4 tires were at 42 PSI. 38 PSI is what is recommended. Enjoy your car!
  • Have your dealer check to make certain that the shipping blocks were removed from the suspension. An amazing number of cars get delivered by Volvo dealers with the blocks still in place.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    Also, it makes a big difference whether you have 17" wheels with the "comfort" suspension, or the 18" wheels with the much firmer suspension, which mine has.
  • vkeservkeser Posts: 1
    Hi All, I'm a newbee, so please be polite

    I got my 2013 S60 just a few days ago, it has many features including "Speed sensitive steering",

    the thing is I notice no difference between steering settings low -> mid -> high.

    How is it supposed to work?, I thought that the "High" should be the higher support to the steering which makes it softer than other settings.

    Could you tell me how this normally works, what difference I should see between settings so I can be sure it has no problem,
    thank you.
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Posts: 35
    The designations low, medium, and high refer to steering effort, resistance, or weighting, not support. I found substantial noticeable differences among the three settings. You should make certain that you are actually selecting the desired setting using the thumbwheel (scroll to the setting by rolling the thumbwheel, then push the thumbwheel firmly to select) before exiting the menu.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    Or set it with the "My Car" settings in the dashboard screen. Low definitely means low effort. If you set it on high, you will use more effort to steer.
  • otis12otis12 Posts: 171
    Does anyone know how much below invoice Volvo employee pricing is? I'm intrigued by Volvo offering employee pricing thru Costco, plus the $500 cash card Costo throws in for leasing/buying thru this program. I'm lookiong at an S60. Thanks.
  • volvobuffvolvobuff Posts: 35
    Volvo employee pricing = invoice, less any current incentives.
  • amoszamosz Posts: 38

    I am also interested in this costco program with volvo. Does it work with leasing it as well?

    Also, as we may be starting our family in the next year or two, how is this car with car seats?

  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 123
    I have a 2013 S60 T5. A great car but the back seat is tight. Not a factor for me as it's just my wife and me. You'll want to look at that real closely before you make your decision.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    It is tight, but comfortable. Try it. The back seat certainly isn't noticeably tighter than similar sized cars (Buick Verano, BMW 3, Lexus IS). If you are tall and want to ride back there a lot, then look elsewhere.
  • amoszamosz Posts: 38
    I don't see myself ever riding in the back seat. None in my family are that tall, so the leg room shouldn't be a huge concern.

    Its more about fitting 1 or 2 car seats in there and needed accessories for children.
  • snarf1464snarf1464 Posts: 2
    We just ordered our S60. We installed the car seatsh into a demo model before ordering. The car seats for my 18 month old and 5 year old fit just fine. I bet it's a little tighter when the car seats are rear facing, but you can put it in the middle which helps.

    I like a lot of leg room when I'm driving, so we found rear facing baby seats were tight in our Acura TLS and MDX as well.
  • htwired1htwired1 Posts: 3
    edited May 2013
    I have had my 2012 Volvo S60 T6 for over a year and have driven it for more than 15,000 miles. It has been a great value and a pleasure to drive. Others have commented about the lack of a spare tire. The combination of low profile tires and 18 inch alloy wheels makes driving without a spare tire absolute foolishness. I hit some road debris. Both wheel and tire will have to be replaced. Fortunately the tire is still holding air, but that was simply my good luck. When I replace the wheel and tire tomorrow, I will also order a spare tire and tire jack. With this one exception I love my S60.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    The lack of a spare is usual for many vehicles, and soon will be the norm for most. Spare tires are going away. They are dead weight and they take up space. Lots of people like yourself will order one anyway, but it will less and less be standard. Yes, I know all the arguments against going without one. However on the other side of it, tires rarely fail today. On my last three vehicles, the spare was never out of the trunk. I had a small pickup with 170K and the original spare. Run flats are also improving. BMW is eliminating them. The Tesla does not come with one, even if you pay over $100K for one. Even in your case, with damage, the car is still drivable. You will of course have more peace of mind having a spare, but you won't have any trunk space. There is no well for a spare (those are on the way out too).
  • htwired1htwired1 Posts: 3
    I now have my spare tire. The extra wheel cost a mere $350. The jack another $70. The good news is that the trunk can accommodate the spare tire, my gold clubs, golf shoes and my yoga mat, but not much more. I'm happy.
  • jmaxejmaxe Posts: 198
    Love my new S60 but at the 600 mile mark, yes 600 miles, I picked up a 2" hex-head sheet metal screw in the shoulder of one tire. Drove right to the tire store as it was going down fast. Of course nobody will patch a puncture unless it's smack dab in the middle of the tread. So $173 and a day later I'm back on the road.
    As for a spare tire, you don't need it until you need it.
    Will be interesting to see if, over time, consumers revolt and demand more than an air pump and a can of goo.
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