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But wait. The Prius would need another switch to disable battery power as well. Maybe that button could say, "Just electrocute me instead!"
2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT
The report which I saw and I heard was frightening. My biggest fear is that one of the affect Toyota products will take off and hit my wife or me.
On a related note which I heard yesterday, Toyota factory workers had sent a two page memo to management with concerns about vehicle quality and the fact that Toyota was cutting corners in building their vehicles. The news article, which I heard on the radio, went on to say that Toyota management ignored the concerns in that memo. Who better to see potential issues than the people who assemble the vehicles. As I recall, any worker on the Saturn assembly line could stop that assembly line if he/she picked up a problem.
I am becoming convinced that turning off the ignition key may not stop the engine in a true UA situatuion.
Multiple different reports are coming out it seems. Similiar, but still some details left out. Report CHP released that officers car actually stopped auto with his own car was retracted. Video iterview - Officer was along side and over PA ws attempting to give suggestions. Officer had mentioned putting car into neutral. Did not say whether owner did or not. Saw one report owner did try.
Last advice - officer feels it was a combination of things finally got auto stopped. (1)steeper grade of freeway (2)emergency brake application (3)continue braking(officer could smell brakes of Prius). Officer did put his car in front of Prius at the end just in case auto took off again. Seems autos never touched though.
CHP and driver/owner make statement was not floor mat. Owner had checked. Owner makes claim acclerator pedal stuck and even despite trying to move pedal it stayed right where it was. Not sure what he actually means in his statement?
Two weeks ago had taken to his dealer with recall, and was told car not on list. Turned away. 2008 Prius
Owner states will not drive car again! Naturally owner is now quite upset at Toyota.
I have tried putting the car into neutral,and at slow speeds it does work,however I have never attempted that while at highway speeds,let alone at 90 MPH.
It is rather scary driving a Prius not knowing when or if it will take off out of control.People,don't buy into that floor-mat story.The floor-mats are on hooks and are not going anywhere.It's a red herring.
I think your ignition kill-switch idea is a good one, but I continue to recommend the "trade in your Toyota for a non-Toyota" solution.
SUA= Sudden Unintended Acceleration
http://www.seattleweekly.com/2009-04-22/news/the-flip-side-of-the-perfect-prius
NHTSA should assemble a team of engineers from bmw ford and suburu as well as the southern illinois prof and whoever else toyota is slinging mud at, and then we'll see how long before the source of the problem is found!
Long term solution: Install a totally independently operating BTO, Brake/Throttle Override.
Now, understand that it would take billions more to do that (on top of the billions this has already cost Toyota). But, if it saves one life, it's worth it.
The issue here is, Toyota doesn't put the same emphasis on "loss of life" as apparently we do.
While the accidents, issues and deaths pile up, Toyota is trying to defend their stance against getting to the real problem. That's way misguided.
As was mentioned, hire Dr Gilbert. Get Ford, or Subaru, or any other company that's not suffering from the maladies Toyota and Lexus are suffering. Get it fixed.
Yeah, it will make Toyota look bad. But, what's more important? Saving lives, or looking good?
I pick saving lives.
http://www.designnews.com/article/446480-Toyota_s_Problem_Was_Unforeseeable.php
LESLIE KORNGOLD • • MARCH 9, 2010
http://www.lohud.com/article/20100309/NEWS02/3090378/-1/newsfront/Stuck-accelera- tor-sends-Toyota-Prius-into-a-wall-in-Harrison
The 56-year-old driver suffered non-life threatening injuries, acting Chief Anthony Marraccini said.
The woman was pulling out of the driveway at 3700 Purchase St. facing forward when the accelerator stuck, police said.
The car "shot" across the street smashing into a stone wall, Marraccini said.
The collision sent "some pretty big boulders" fairly far, Marraccini said.
Marraccini said the floor mat has been pretty much ruled out as a cause. The 2005 car appears to have had corrective action taken, Marraccini said. The floor mat was tied to the seat base with plastic ties.
The car has been taken to police headquarters for further analysis.
The driver was being evaluated at White Plains Hospital Center.
On Monday, a 2008 Toyota Prius was finally stopped after attaining 94mph on a California interstate due to a stuck accelerator pedal.
According to media reports, California Highway Patrol figured the car had traveled over 20 miles with the stuck pedal.
That car was stopped by throwing it into reverse, standing on the brakes and turning it off, according to media reports.
Without knowing the current causative factor(s) how would you go about "designing it out" in a new design...??
No excuse for Toyota, but any car can accelerate without warning--learn what to do!
When you lift the gas pedal to idle the HSD system is supposed to go into regenerative braking mode, the wheels forcing the generators to turn, thereby recharging the hybrid battery. Even moreso, higher regen effect, if you apply the brakes.
So by default the Prius has a "BTO".
It's been reported that shifting the Lexus/Toyota cars into neutral has no affect.
wwest.....well, we know tha Toyota hasn't designed their system the correct way. So, set about doing a redesign. That's what I'd ask Exponent help me to do. If they can't, I'd also ring up Dr Gilbert for some help in that regard, too.
Now what....?
Toyota says 2004-09 Priuses will be recalled to prevent pedal entrapment; an acceleration Incident in a 2008 Prius was reported in California.
That would be NipponDenso or maybe even Denso US. Although the latter would be unlikely since that would expose the specifications, and maybe more, to US legal system oversight.
IMMHO it would be patently foolish to begin a redesign without being certain sure the design "flaw" could be avoided.
Based on all the UA reports, it seems there is a very good possibility that, once the vehicle is in fullfledged UA, turning the key or pressing the button will not stop the engine, likewise shifting the transmission into neutral will not work either.
These are simple steps, if the screwed up computer logic allows them to happen. Lets not kill all the messengers just yet!
Reports are all over the news today. Have not seen anything about this one as yet though.
Thanks for the alert.
Do compare incident of the James family in Colorado as well. Another Prius in SUA/UA incident. Prior to incident husband had received $10,000 scholarship from Toyota, and family were strong advocates for Toyota. Incident and details familiar. Family did not sue.