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Pontiac Bonneville



  • Thanks boosted1 for the info on you polishing. I tried to polish my exhaust tips this past week-end with out much luck. Used a metal polish that is for a wide range of metals including aluminum, but all it did was lighten the color a little. I just do not think these tips are meant to shine! Was wondering if you were able to get yours to acually shine at all? I'm ready to see about having them chrome plated or something...assuming the tips can be removed easily. Anybody know if the tips are welded to the exhaust or just "clamped" on?
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    Remember that Tom Selleck used to fold his frame into a Ferrari 308 GTS on Magnum P.I., albeit with the roof panel removed.
  • boosted1boosted1 Posts: 90
    The tips had a little bit of shine.
    If I had a better buffing wheel they might have been better. (more time too)
    They still look good after two days of driving.
    I will try to post some pics...
  • boosted1boosted1 Posts: 90
    These are not the greatest pictures. Looks better in person.
  • h101h101 Posts: 62
    NO, NO.... not that... I'm 65 and retired!!!

    The new addition is Carolyn's new GrandAm GT1. Count the sparkling ehaust tips in this photo (10 of 'em) :)


  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Boosted - they look great. I painted the inside of mine black to avoid future maintenance.

    H. - Nice to see you are still here.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    The surface is too irregular to easily clean. I'm still considering hacking them off and going to a nice dual chrome pipe tip set-up. But then I think of buying a G/XP next year and I wonder why I'd spend anything modding my SLE in the meantime. I think Stephen's "paint-it-black" strategy might be the one for me. If I don't end up trading in next year, then at least the tips wouldn't bug me.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Bill - Nice looking spread there - and great toys out front! Just wish you'd left the garage doors open again so I could have drooled over that spotless space your cars get to enjoy!

    Envoy, Highlander, RX300 - Dittos to Ice - these are also my favorites in that class. Envoy is the best looking of the lot - I'd love any of them.

    rjs200240 - Glad you liked the Bonnie SE. It sure is a great value. I congratulate myself on that point often.

    Yesterday I drove the new Infinity G35 since I had a bit of time on my hands. The neck snapping power of that car (260hp) is incredible and it handles well enought to be attracting BMW owners. The local dealer sells both brands and is seeing trade-ins from long-time Beemer folks.

    The ride is a bit too abrupt for my liking but the exhilarating performance and the buttery soft leather upholstery with either genuine wood or brushed metal appointments surpass the more austere german look and make the car very inviting. Ought to be a best seller and I hope it's a taste of what waits in store for Maxima GLE/I35!
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    Well, mine at 20,000 are just about all black and now match the rest of the car; laziness is a virtue by which we rationalize. I live in St. Louis. We get maybe 3 days a year when you might actually NEED an SUV. Hardly justifies the fact that every other car I pass is a SUV. Snow is not a factor and 99.9% of SUV's spend more time at red lights than they do off road... horrible mileage, poor space per weight ratio... I never really understood the attraction... now that Vette between the Grand Am and SSEi, I'm all about that!!! The summer door panel rattles began today. These interiors are very climate sensitive. I've been watching my volt meter for abnormalities. None have surfaced yet. Mileage is getting better all the time, about 22 combined with mods and a heavy foot. Why is the sun always right above my open moon roof? Is this a midwest problem or a getting off work at 2:45 problem, thank god for the sun shade. Well, I guess that covers everything, Guess I'll melt back into the wood work and cheer on the! Red Wings beware!
  • h101h101 Posts: 62
    Repost of a photo from almost two years ago :)

    smfran (at least thas what my memory tells me) and I were discussing what to do with the exhaust tips and I posted this photo. They are actually pretty easy to maintain when ya paint the sides and inside with heat resistant paint (I used Rustoleum's spray barbeque flat black). Then, once in awhile, take steel wool to the rim... looks great :)

  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    I guess I'm probably the first in the club here hit the 50K marker in the 2000 SE. Hit it late last week. Can't believe how fast it came!

    Car's running well but I guess it's time to pull out the owner's manual and see what maintenance might be coming up
  • loub2bloub2b Posts: 5
    I'm not sure what SSEi that review was talking about when it stated "The top speed is given at 128 but I'd bet that number is optimistic." I had my SSEi at 111mph and had plenty more to go. It was just starting to cruise at that speed. The only downside is when I coasted back down to 75mph it seemed like I was crawling. This is my 4th SSEi and 5th Bonneville. I looked at and drove a lot of the competition this time including the BMW 530i and the SSEi has the most "stuff", the coolest look and the best feel of them all. I'm excited to be in another one.
  • loub2bloub2b Posts: 5
    If your looking to get a GMC Envoy, I highly recommend it. My wife drives the Envoy and it mimics the ride and performance of the SSEi...just higher and in a 4 wheel drive. When she had the Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited we always drove my 99 SSEi when we were going anywhere together. The Jeep rode like a noisy, bumpy truck. Now with the 02 SSEi and the 02 Envoy, it's a tougher decision when we try to decide which vehicle to use.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Congrats to you on a pair of winners!

    Question for you - on weekends do you and the wife trade off on vehicles? I can imagine both would very tempting.

    Best wishes for enjoyment of both your SSEi and the Envoy.

  • pontiacrickpontiacrick Posts: 26
    Thanks for the picture of your exhaust tips boosted. Look pretty good. I'll give it another try and see what happens. My old 3000GT had real nice chrome tips-real easy to keep lookin nice and the exhaust made a real sweet sound (unlike the bonneville). Just wish pontiac would tune the exhaust note a little better. As I recall, the Aurora has a quieter sound (and I think chrome tips)..oh well.
  • pontiacrickpontiacrick Posts: 26
    Noticed a few of you are comparing virtues of cars and suv's. I had a 4wd dakota just prior to the SLE. One reason for trading was to get a more comfortable ride. I compared the dakota to SUV's and actually found my '99 Dakota's ride better than many of the new SUV's. Didn't think the Envoy or Bravada was all that impressive. I was ready to go back to a plusher and quiet ride. Plus, most SUV's were at least $3-5,000 more than the Bonneville and worse gas mileage. SUV's just are not aesthetic from a design standpoint either. I never have liked the big gap between the tires and the body...just a big black void area. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As far a the hybrids...remember the old AMC Eagle (Hornet)Sportabouts. Maybe they were ahead of their time!
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    H101 - Yes it was me that was discussing the painting of the inside of the exhaust tips with Hi-temp black grill paint. I chose to do it to eliminate future maintenance. The insides of Boosted's will start to turn black soon and he'll have to clean them. I did do the outsides of mine with silver.

    Tpken - Sorry, but I'm the "old man" of the group with over 57,000 miles on my 2000 SSEi. It will be two years old in one week.

    loub2b - I've also had five Bonnevilles. Three SE's with the SLE package (that's the way they used to do it). One actual SLE. One SSEi (current). I'm glad to hear you like the Envoy also.

    Pontiacrick - I'd like it if I had a little more exhaust rumble. I'd prefer the SSEi to sound more like it looks.
    What didn't you like about the Envoy?
  • boosted1boosted1 Posts: 90
    Smfran & H101
    I am hoping that with the smoother inside surface, and the clearcoat finish, that I will just have to wash the inside of the tips when I wash the car. Its been a week now and they are still pretty clean. I think (hope) that the smoother surface stops some of the "black" from sticking.

    I'll let you know in a few weeks...
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Good luck. I hope it works well for you.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Wow I'm surprised to hear of a 2000 with more miles racked up than on mine. When will you be thinking about a trade again?

  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Backed into a friends driveway (a downtown brownstone with a sloping drive to the basement garage) and crunched the cladding directly behind the front wheel on the driver's side. Fortunately, I hit painted wood, not concrete. Neat thing: the mark buffed right out. With a good touch-up spray and clear coat, it'll be unnoticeable - especially where it is. Had it been an uncladded spot, though...

    You guys have me so beat in the mileage department - I'm only at 20k miles now on my '00 SLE. But I only bought mine in December 2000. Some of you guys make me believe that my commute is a lot better than it normally seems to me.

    Hey, I've had two compliments on the Bonnie from passengers in the past few days. Both are owners of recent vintage BMW 330i sedans. One just couldn't get over all the neat features the car had (and particularly liked the layout of the DIC) and actually liked the leather while both liked the spaciousness of the back seat.

    Have a good weekend all!
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    May 2003 is when my three year lease expires. I'm seriously considering the Envoy although I never even drove an SUV. My wife is sick of me driving Bonnevilles (since 1988) and I must admit I could stand a change. I still have plenty of time to decide what I really want to commit to.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    If GM decides to axe our ride after all. Why not go for something a little exotic if you're looking for a change - go get yourself a BMW or Saab 9.5 or something.

    Speaking of BMW - have you sat in one of those new 7 series with the unusual console arrangement? I foget what they call that dial there where the shifter usually resides but it's sure different! If you've got $75K in your pocket it could keep you quite entertained I suspect.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    That would be too drastic for me. I've been driving GM since my Grandfather gave me his '64 Lesabre in '76! Plus, this "SUV with car like ride" has me interested.
  • pturner1pturner1 Posts: 33
    On my last fill up (05-02-02) the odometer was at 57829 miles. Does that make me the old man?
    2000 SSEi purchased 01-25-00
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    I'm officially at 56,125 as of 5/6/02 8:23 EDT. My last post should of read "over 56,000 miles"; not 57,000. My car was new 5/10/00 which means I should pass you soon. Not that I ever want to be referred to as "the old man".
  • pontiacrickpontiacrick Posts: 26
    Drove through the local pontiac dealer yesterday and noticed the new Bonnevilles and GrandPrix's exhaust tips looked more polished. Upon closer inspection, it looks like the new ones have more of a "machined" look and were much smoother than before. They still aren't like chrome, but with the machined look, are lighter in color and look to be easier to keep clean. This might be a recent change, since there were some Bonnevilles on the lot that had the more "pourous" (non-machined) look to their mine. This gave me an idea so I tried to lightly sand mine using a fine grit sand paper and then steel wool along with a metal cleaner. The results were very good. They now have a much smoother surface and look much more presentable!!
    Just wanted to pass this info on.
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    I'm back from my 2+ week stint in Maine, working up to 16 hours a day on the cabin. As I always do when I'm by myself, I drove straight through both ways, 17 to 17 1/2 hours and 1070 miles. For this trip, I took the 01 Caravan because it was loaded with stuff to take out there. I found that I was far more tired and uncomfortable in my lower back with that vehicle than when I took the Bonneville out there last fall. Interestingly, at least to me, the 88 Caravan we keep out there still has, after all these years, better and more comfortable seating than either of the newer cars. The newer Caravan is like sitting on a slab and it is the top of the line ES model.
    I saw far more Bonnevilles on this trip than on the others combined, almost as many as on the other trips combined. I also noticed there was a white SSEi of the 2000 to 2002 vintage fairly close to us in Maine. When we go back in June, I might just have to stop if I see someone out and chat them up about their car.
    To Dan's point about the console in the vans restricting access to the back seats, the Caravan has a movable and removable console that can go between either the front seats or the middle seats, complete with power outlet. We actually normally leave ours out altogether because of the access issue.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Mark - we've had some spectacular days here in the last couple of weeks - a few cool and wet ones too. With all the crab apple trees and the occasional dogwood now blossoming and the PGM azaleas out in full as well as tulips and still some daffs and forsythia it is as close to spectacular as it can be. Lilacs are out here in Mass now - next week at home.

    Great time to enjoy the scenery and the great outdoors.

    Your 1000 mile ride's got me itchin to take the wheel again here sometime - perhaps New Brunswick or N.S. in June.
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