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Jaguar S-Type



  • davidngadavidnga Posts: 2
    Currently in talks with dealer for a Jaguar Certified Select 2005 S-Type R to replace my totaled 2001 S-Type. I've read all the post about transmission problems but I had my S-Type for 4 years and only problem I had was a coil in the #6 injector($500.00) and had work done on the AC..that was all...Prior to the Jag, I had a Taurus SHO and probably put $11,000.00 in the engine in a 5 year period. I'm going with the Jaguar.
  • kenbergkenberg Posts: 2
    Hi: I'm considering first Jaguar purchase ... thinking S type. Have seen comments and wonder where in the series the new 'norwegian' transmission came in. Is there a code on the cars to show which trans they have?

    What other things, aside from long, strong warranty should I look for?

  • alorasdadalorasdad Posts: 4
    Ken, I purchased a used 2001 in 2005 with 49k miles. Still have it, tranny going out, with close to 110k. The Ford tranny, which mine has, goes about 100, based on what the dealers said. Other than the hvac going out, which I now question, based on the mechanic involved, no real maintenance issues. The car is great to drive and good for the ego, if you like comments about your car :>. Good shopping to you.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309

    Easy way to tell what trannys in the car - the ZF is a 6 speed, the Ford box is 5. I picked up a CPO 2006 S-Type VDP model earlier this year from the local Jag Dealer. I suggest you look for a CPO car with the 300 HP 4.2 V8 in it. Fuel economy is virtually the same as the 3.0. This S-Type is my third Jag, I owned 2 X Types before it.

    Happy Shopping
  • rmbaker47rmbaker47 Posts: 8
    I made the very unfortunate choice to purchase 2 Jaguars in a row for my wife who drives about 6,500 miles per year - so very light duty. Both Jaguars, first a Soverign and the 2nd a S-Type were the worst cars I have ever owned mechanically and cost of ownership wise!!! I restore GM 60's clasic muscle cars for a hobby and service all my vehicles very, very well. Both motors failed due to cooling problems (1st faulty head gasket in the inline 6 and complete motor meltdown in the S when the plastic - milk carton like burp tank sprung a leak and overheated the aluminum block = quoted $18,000 to repair by Jaguar) both at less than 50,000 miles and Jaguar would only refer me to their local dealers who have the highest repair rates I have ever been subjeted to = $80/gal of replacement antifreeze!! Do not buy any of this Jag crap unless you love to throw your money away. Do not count on any Jag warrenty saving you, they have more ways of weasiling out of what should be normal warenty responsibility than any auto manufacturer I have been a customer of having owned over 100 GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mercedies autos during my driving life.

    I strongly recommend you look to BMW, Mercedies, Porche, Lexus, etc. before ever wasting your money and your customer patience on Jag junk!!!! Proceed with Jaguar at your own risk - you have been fairly informed.

    Some numbers, Jag/Ford sold 80K S-Types with the Linclon 4.0 V8 motor in the early 2000s at an average price of $60,000. The motors all melted down due to the worst cooling system design I have ever seen in any auto, let alone a "luxury" car!! 80,000 x $60,000 is a very big number and an unconscionable fraud of US consumers! I read story after story of people who paid $60,000 new or $40/30,000 used and by 50K or 60K miles their Jag was only worth scrap. I sold ours at an wrecked car insurance auction for $6,500 and was tickled pink to get any money back at all.

    Good luck?
  • rossco2rossco2 Posts: 1
    I have 2006 Jaguar S type that has a "PARKING BRAKE FAULT" light on the console. Anyway for some reason I can get the the parking brake off and the car will not move. I tried to release it manually but that was unsuccessful. Can someone out there please give me a suggestion on what to do. I was thinking about disconnecting the battery then re-connecting it to see if that might re-set something.
  • aidemoiaidemoi Posts: 2
    I just want to put the word out to people that have an 8 cylinder Jaguar motor. The motor was designed with plastic secondary tensioners. Prevent huge engine repair costs by having these replaced with the new metal tensioners. My secondary tensioner recently exploded causing my timing chain to snap. If I would have known sooner I could of had them replaced at a fraction of the cost. I love my Jaguar and preventative maintence is so important!
  • penny1962penny1962 Posts: 2
    I'm looking at used 2000-2005 used jags, but would like advice from owners. What bothers me is most of these cars have no service book and I think that's very important to know if routine maintenance was kept up.

    I won't be in a position to purchase until about a year from now and have plenty of time to do research. I've read a few pages here and keep coming across vibration concerns and cost of a specific motor oil that is expensive. Seems there are owners who love the cars and have had little to no issues, then others that swear the cars are a nightmare to maintain.

    Before buying *any* used car I always have it inspected, and the cars I have found are supposedly "certified", but again...few to no maintenance books.

    Can a Ford dealer do an inspection or would I need to take it to a Jaguar dealer/mechanic..?

    I have lots of questiond but will start with this for now.

    Thanks in advance,
  • ron6962ron6962 Posts: 5
    Penny, I have a 2002 S-Type, 8 cylinder. I bought it new and during the 4 "free" maintenence years, I had it in the shop about 6 times, 4 for the same problem...a leaky rear-end. They finally replaced the entire rear-end unit, and I have not had further problems. Immediately after expiration of the 4 year warranty, I had to have a window motor replaced ($400) , and then about a year later, had to have all 8 ignition coils replaced ($1200), although only one was failing. Then about 6 months later, the transmission went out and had to be replaced at a cost of $5000. I've not had any further serious problems (knock on wood) for the past couple of years. It now has 106,000 miles on it, and rides/drives just like it did when it was new. I think the quality of the drive train should have been better with a $50,000 price tag, but overall, it is the nicest car I have owned. Am I going to buy another one? Probably not. I'm not comfortable with the future of Jaguar since Ford sold out it to Tata.

    My advice on shopping for a used for one with low mileage. They are around, because many of the owners trade or lease every couple of years. I would definitely have it checked out by a trusted mechanic. If you don't have one, then I would take it to a Jaguar dealer, not Ford. The mechanics at a Jaguar dealer are much more likely to be trained for them properly.

    On the oil question....during the first 4 years, they used synthetic oil and changed it every 12 months or 10,000 miles. Then I was told synthetic oil is of no advantage except in very high performance engines....Ferrari, etc.. So for the past 3-4 years I have used regular oil and change it every 3 months or 3000 miles. (About $80 at a Jaguar dealer, and about $30 anyplace else.)

    In my opinion, there are two things needed to make a "good" car last longest....keep it clean and waxed, and keep the oil changed regularly.

    Hope this helps. Ron

    P.S.....if you want a good deal on a 2002 S-Type 4.0 with a new transmission and 106,000 miles, I have one!! (-:
  • gr8catgr8cat Posts: 21
    We really need help - our cat has only one eye - the Bi Xenon Headlights have winked out on the passenger side. Out, then on then out for good. The Jag dealer assessed the lights, sold us the wrong bulb and our mechanic sent us back to the dealer again who now says that we have to pay about $400. for that bulb plus labour at about $l20.00 per hour in order to get that light working. I don't think brain surgeons make that kind of money or even pay that kind of money for their operating room lights. Someone says that BMW's are even more. Somethings wrong with this picture so we're really hoping that someone out there can help us with some correct information as to how to approach this problem and get our cat seeing straight again. Thanks.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    I'm on my third Jaguar. Previously owned an 03 X-Type and an 06 X-Type. The first of the year I traded my 06 X for a certified 06 S-Type VDP that my local Jag dealer acquired. First of all - Jag's certified cars give you a 6 year - 100K warranty from original in-service date, and, offers excellent protection. The X-Types are all-wheel -drive, and, the drivetrain can be annoying noisy, and, some have had vibration issues - requiring propshaft replacements, etc. to cure the problem. The S-Types are much quieter, and, more luxurious than the X, but, you give up the excellent foul weather capabilities that the all-wheel- drive gives you. However, the S-Type, with its 6 speed automatic, gets better fuel economy than the X does. On the question of motor oil - there is no special motor oil required - both models use regular 5W-30 oil. You can use synthetic if you want, but its more expensive. My advice to you: Decide which model Jag you want. Get the latest model with the lowest mileage you can afford, and, get a Certified one from a Jag dealer. This means they've inspected the car, corrected any deficiencies, and warrant the vehicle as noted above. Before I bought my CPO S-Type, I was allowed an overnight test drive, and, I did my own inspection as well. I found a couple of problems that they missed, and, made them correct them before I purchased the car. In addition, Jag will only certify cars that have had all the required maintenance done, have a clean carfax, and, have some of the original factory warranty still in effect (Must have under 50K miles). The dealer is required to give you a copy of the Carfax report on the vehicle before purchase as well. Buying a certified one from a non-Jag dealer is a crap-shoot - a lot of these non-factory backed certification programs are a joke. In addition, at the time I bought mine, Jaguar was offering very attractive finance rates on the CPO cars as well. I believe they're still available.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    I suggest you research your problem on a couple of the regular Jaguar forums. Usually the folks that post on these can offer excellent guidance on how to deal with a problem such as yours.

  • kenbergkenberg Posts: 2
    Thanks for tips. Like most, I see the S type as exactly what I've always wanted since first driving the old 3.8s. Problem is, the costly parts under the paint are not something I want to have to worry about. As a parking lot fender smasher in the 1950s I often took customer cars to the Jag shop for them. They loved their cars but were vexed by constant need for attention. Seems that not much has changed.
  • I got 2000 S type V6 29.5 K miles, very low, I have warning light " Left tail lamp out"
    I check Fuses in fron and back and nothing.
    Any clue??
  • ron6962ron6962 Posts: 5
    This usually means you have a bulb that is burned out....not a fuse. Check the bulbs in the left rear light enclosure. It is easy to do yourself. I have replaced two (left and right) in my 2002 S-Type.
  • Thanks:
    I replaced all the bulbs and nothing that why I check the fuses.
  • gr8catgr8cat Posts: 21
    OldCEM: Regular Jaguar forums? Aaaaah, if only I knew how to find them. I'm so new to all this stuff - I have a passionate hate for computers because they never seem to give up the information I need when I need it, probably because I don't ask the questions properly or some other lame reason.
    Whatever, we don't get along, never did, but I refuse to give up and so now I have to try to find those Regular Jaguar Forums you so kindly mentioned. Can you please point me to them so I can search out the information I need.
    Apparently the initial problem with the lights was a ballast and the replacement (wow expensive) failed within two days so we really have to search out this problem. Jaguar Doctor is too busy dismantling the front end to get at headlights again to research so I have to struggle with the computer. I think I have the best job though, frustrating though it may be, at least my office is air-conditioned.
    Point me to the other forums, please and I'll stop bothering you guys. Thanks muchly.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Try - Its the best of the bunch, and, been the most help .

  • Looking for recommendation for the right snow tires for my Jag S-type.
    Live in New England. When I bought the car, I thought, I'll just stay in when it snows, but find I want the confidence to be out when I have to rather than the weather always predicating my days. I only have 9,000 miles on my 08' and would get killed on the trade-in for an X-Type, which I should have bought in the first place. I know someone who owns one and he said his is like a tank in the snow...Other than that, love the car, although I have to sit on a special pad to support my lower spine to stave off a pain in my right leg. Why don't they have Chiropractors design the seats??
  • Sorry for the mispelling..couldn't change. thanks for all replies...NC
  • Well, as usual my computer has been taking lessons from my '03 STR. Seems that the forum you suggested is not interested in letting me in. Cannot navigate that site no matter how hard I try. Now that the driver's side power seat is not functioning on my Cat I think we really need help with this car. Perhaps we are just having a run of bad luck but I think we really need to talk to someone about these expensive problems. We're also not getting any signals on our message centre which makes me think that it has somehow been disabled - afterall, with all the problems we have been having, shouldn't something be blinking on the centre? Any suggestions? And, no, I am not ready to sell or trade - despite the problems I LOVE my CAT - every problematic inch of her and once we're over the problem hump, all will be great. Thanks.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Gr8Cat: Do a Yahoo search for Jaguar Forums, and, see if you can get into them that way. On your power seat gremlin- check the fuse boxes ans see if you've just lost a fuse. The car's got 3 fuse boxes - the owner's manual will tell you where to find them. I was having an intermittent problem with my Nav system. I popped the tops off the fuse boxes, and, made sure everything was seated correctly. I found some fuses that didn't appear to be plugged in all the way. After that, my gremlin went away.

  • gr8catgr8cat Posts: 21
    oldcem - I've been out of the loop for a while but that is not to say that the Cat is behaving herself. The power seat problem has been fixed to the tune of $l,000. Seems the Control Module was dead? whatever. We left something behind the seat that interfered with the automatic operation.
    Now that winter is upon us, I'm re-learning what a "bad winter car" really means. Even with snow tires on this machine seems the Cat has a mind of her own, and behaves as if her claws have been clipped way too short. Thank heavens we haven't had very much snow this year so far.
    We have a very long, windy, hilly driveway and getting in and out has been a challenge to say the least, and a bit of fun at times.
    Thank goodness for the J-gate. I've really learned a lot about winter driving this year - stuff I had forgotten once I got rid of my old Toyota Celica years ago.
    Now I realize why my husband and son were pushing so hard for me to buy an X Type. Guess all-wheel drive would be too much to ask for on the S-type, just to safely get through a few months of the year.
    The other 10 months are soooooo good. It's almost embarrassing the way people stare at this car - almost with reverence and always giving-way and hardly ever challenging.
    Thanks for the heads-up on the fuses - that just might be the answer to a few of our problems and we'll get that done just as soon as spring arrives (no garage for Cat). Happy motoring. gr8cat
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Before the weather got bad, I replaced the worn-out Michelins on my S with some Kumho tires. The cat hasn't done too bad this winter with her new claws. I had 2 X Types before this S Type, and, they're excellent in snow. The downside is - they don't get very good fuel economy because of the AWD, and, they're not near as quick as the V8 S-Types are.

  • gr8catgr8cat Posts: 21
    We have new Blizzaks on the STR. Have always been used to all-weather tires till now so perhaps these are not the best choice. Fuel economy? what's that? Considering how I drive this car, I guess I shouldn't complain but it seems that my gas tank is ALWAYS close to empty - maybe 23 mpg and sometimes as low as 19. Highway cruising usually yields 29 - 31 mpg which I consider to be great. The intown kills us - to many quick corners, fast getaways and just plain fun. Cannot resist - gotta use it. Not since the E-Type have I had this much fun. Lots of flack from hubby, though and have to be a lot more sedate when he's in the car.
    Off to Montreal, Quebec this summer for the F1 race so we're thinking that will be a real test of the fuel economy.
    Happy motoring.
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Your gas mileage is fine. My S-Type's stablemate is a 2010 Honda CRV 2WD - 4 cylinder w/5 speed automatic. The best she's done on long interstate trips is 28.5 MPG. My 4.2 Liter S smokes the CRV on trips, and, gets almost the same mileage in city driving. The 2 X-Types I've owned, an 03 2.5 Liter and an 06 3.0, both got far worse fuel economy on trips than the S Type - typically 5 - 6 MPG less.

  • gr8catgr8cat Posts: 21
    Thanks for the reassurance - I do believe that your gallon is slightly smaller than our Canadian gallon - something like 3.78 litres to our 4.5 litres. or so I'm told - go figure I sure can't. Thoughts here are that if I drove the cat just a bit easier we would go a bit further on each tank of gas and maybe even get a little more mileage out of the tires. Now, how much fun does that sound like? Not much from where I'm sitting and not for a moment do I believe that these cars were meant to putter along, otherwise I would have bought a Chevy Aveo, or something like that, or for the money, a garage full of those.
    My cat's stablemate is a bright yellow '94 Vette roadster, standard transmission. Also, lots of fun, but not nearly as comfortable and only runs in the summertime.
    Polar extremes. WooHoo, life's good - can't wait for my XK8R which I always thought we should have had instead of the banana. I don't win all the discussions.
    Happy motoring. gr8cat
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    I don't win all the time either - that's how I ended up with the CRV, and, the young lady who's put up with me for 44 years. Have to agree with you - nothing quite like the growl of the Jag V8 when you get on it - its a muscle car in a tuxedo. Last car I had that was this entertaining was a 1969 Oldsmobile 442.

  • Recently had dealer perform a mandatory software update J004 on 05 S-Type R.. Next time the vehicle was started Engine Light (MIL) was active. Purchased an OBDII reader and found only P0172 and P0175 active. Able to clear but returns after starting engine. From some post this might be related to intake air leak.
    Is it worth taking it back to the sealer and blaming the software update or does the update make these standard codes more sensitive?? I presume this has something to do with the tighter emission regs in Southern California as the Mandatory Update appeared on the annual vehicle registration form. Any ideas on where to start or is this a dealer only issue.
  • mariekamarieka Posts: 1
    What happened with the lawsuit???????????.......4 days ago, I had almost the same problem as you had but my car was (yes, I said was) a 1998 XJ8. I backed out of my underground parking spot and as soon as I put it in "D" to leave, the Jag drove itself right back into the parking stall at an unbeleivable speed. Both of my feet on the brake pedal. I could not stop that car. I owed it for 5 years so it's not like I did not know how to park/drive..........Now, the insurance company wants proof that this was unintended the heck, am I going to prove this............HELP
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