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Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier



  • Just think that even at 2 per premium per gallon in LA with 25-30 mpgs' or $25-30 to fill up is still a lot cheaper than a V8 Suv At 15 mpg's @1.75 regular = say $45-50.
  • We have had our snow issues too and I learned last year after a wild fish-tailing 180 on a local interstate that I was not invincible with ASR and ABS. AWD and ESP would have prevented the same incident. Snow dammed up on the outside of my front wheel while doing a lane change luckily with no other cars around. I still can fish tail on a slick curve with snow, sand and or ice or any combo thereof.

    I do see a lot of 4x4 drivers driving like redneck idiots tailgating even in bad conditions like they are invincible.
  • Stop complaining everyone, gas here in California, specifically Tracy Hills (suburb of San Fransisco) is $2.29 for 91 and $2.03 for 87. It costs me more than $30 to fill my car with 91 for my 1.8T. Gad-zooks! I remember back in 1999 when gas was $1.55--god I miss those days!
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    The early 2001 GTIs and 99.5 and 2000s came from Germany. It was a mid-year move during 2001 when the GTIs started getting built in Brazil.
  • Just think that even at 2 per premium per gallon in LA with 25-30 mpgs'

    25 MPG! I wish. I'm getting closer to 23-24 with 70% freeway. The closest I've seen to 30 with my Jetta was a drive to LA - 28 mpg.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    To get your floormats out of your car you will need to pull them up HARD. I can get mine out, but in doing so, I usually pull the plastic part from the mats and they seperate from the mat itself. This happened with the original mats that came standard with my Jetta and with the embroidered mats I got for Christmas. They can be put back together without a problem, but its still a pain.

    No discoloration here!!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I have heard several people complain about your problem of discoloration. I have a spot on my door panel, but it came off with water so I am not worried about it. I would definitely take the car in and have the part replaced or something.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I have a 1.8T, and since I commute about 80 miles daily, I sometimes wish I would have gotten the TDI. But then I push down the gas pedal and zoom off, and am happy again. :)

    I know you can get the TDI chipped, but you can do the same with the 1.8T. I drove both cars back to back, and the TDI felt alot slower than the 1.8T (with auto of course), so I chose the 1.8T.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Well, we got about 5" more on the ground this morning. I had to take my dad to work at 2am (he had to do snow detail, he works for the State of MD). Started the car up, cleaned it off, and it took right off through the white stuff. I was even able to conquer a slushy/snowy hill, which surprised me (the Corolla next to me slid back down, while I kept on going). The only trouble I had was when I turned my wheels all the way to the left to get out of the parking lot where my dad works, my car started going sharply to the left. It wasn't really a problem in this particular situation, as I wanted to turn left anyway, but I could see it being a problem.

    MD seems to be doing a pretty good job of getting the roads clean, alot better than in recent years. I hope this is the LAST snowfall of this year. As it is, we're gonna have piles of snow lying around until June! :)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Doesn't the chip cause MPG to go down (ie. get worse)?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The chip on the TDI, according to owners, usually causes an increase in MPG. In the 1.8T, I don't think it makes a differewnce.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Ok..maybe I'm misunderstanding how chips work. What exactly does the chip do?
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    This happens to everyone - it's normal wear and tear. Happened on my GTI and on my Jetta. If you put your elbow up on the door panel it will start to discolor it/rub away the finish.

    Think of it as character for your car. ;)

    If it's still under 12/12000 then it will be replaced, otherwise it won't since it's "normal wear and tear".

    And vocus, stop talking about the snow, Pat will get mad. ;) :D

    - Anthony
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    Chips increase the a/f ratio, advance the timing, and up the boost to give increased power levels. By doing this you need to run higher octane (slower burn) so accommodate the advance timing and other settings.

    It shouldn't change MPG, because it's just letting your engine work more efficiently. However, most people will notice a decrease in MPG because they find themselves with the pedal to the floor more often. ;)
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    You have explained what a chip does. But where does it go and where do you put it? How much? Easy to install? Affect the warranty? See, anything else you can tell us lame about.
  • chmeeeechmeeee Posts: 327
    The chip is usually not actually something you can install yourself. The company will take your computer and reprogram it. Chips usually run from about $400-$600, depending on which one you get. It can affect warranty if something breaks, the dealer finds out about the chip, and they think that what broke did so because of the chip. i.e. if your clutch blows and you have a chip, you are probably screwed, but if the radio breaks, you're fine.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,085

    On the TDI... the increase in torque is so massive, many folks report that full throttle roll-ons in 2'd 3'd gear will make the clutch slip. In 1st gear, the front tires just spin when too much throttle is applied. This is impressive.

    It is NOT a bad clutch.. it is just that the OEM clutch cannot handle the massive torque the chipped engine generates.

    When properly tuned (chip, injectors, box) the TDI has been measured to produce torque rivaling the VR6.... all while getting over 50 MPG with normal driving. Folks that do this to their engine should not expect to make any warantee claims for broken parts.
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385
    A "chip" is an eprom, a modification to your engine control unit. That is where the "brain" of the engine is, and this changes the instruction codes.
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    What is the max hp can this chip deliver? Where can it be bought? Someone earlier said they cost $200 - $400. Is the sole advantage just more hp? I have a 2003 Jetta 1.8T. What can I do with more hp? This chip must be used by modders. Can the chip cause engine problems down the road? What is a eprom?
    Sorry about all these Qs, but I'm an information junkie. I just like to know how things work.
    Thanks alot!!! :)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory...kinda contradictory.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    You can get a chip for anywhere from $250-600. If you have a problem with anything in your powertrain, as Anthony said, VW might trace it to your chip and WILL void your warranty on that specific part (be it the engine, tranny, whatever is affected).

    Some ways that people try to get around this is to buy a spare ECU computer (about $4-500) and put the chip in there. They change the ECU before the car is taken in for service, and the problem is solved.

    The chip should give you anywhere from 215-225hp, depending on which program you have. Go to the APR link above and read about it. Also, you can't go any higher than Stage I since you have the Tiptronic (you will know what I mean when you read the APR site linked above).
  • More than HP...the chip offers the holy grail: more torque. Your torque will break 240 (I believe you currently have around 167). That's the force that shoves you back in your seat when you accelerate.

    I've considered it many times but I'd rather not pour more money into a car that will be gone from my life (at the latest) in 14 months.
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    Sorry, but where is the APR link and what does it stand for? You'll have to spell some things out to me for a while. Maybe, for ever!

    I didn't think about the torque when I asked about the hp. Johnny on the spot, you are, as usual.

    Maybe, if I get the chip, I'll try the 100+ mph attempt again. That will be fun.

    1,200 miles and everything with the Jetta is just peachy, so far. My fingers are crossed, though. Will someone tell me when I can breathe.
  • adg44adg44 Posts: 385

    I had an APR 93 chip in my 1.8T. The only thing I didn't like was that it wasn't smooth. I guess that's also why I don't like turbo engines, I like buttery smooth sixes like my BMW.

    But it sure is fast. :)
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    I found an empty road and got my Jetta up to 101 mph today. It handled itself pretty well up to that speed and could've gone higher, but I was running out of road. I'll have to do it a couple more times to get somewhat more comfortable with the car. It was kinda fun. Speaking of fun. Isn't this fun??? :)
  • wcwagwcwag Posts: 19
    What kind of Jetta and engine do you have? When did you buy it and have you have any trouble with it? (I have a '03 GL 1.8T and it's great)
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    Nice to meet you. My '03 Jetta 1.8T is now two months old and I have just over 1,200 miles on it. I haven't had one, I mean, not one problem with it. Up to this point I'm very happy with it. It performs very well and it's fun to drive, and hasn't had one cough, hick-up, groan, etc. But as I have read about (on this forum) some of the problems other owners have begins to scare me a little. I'm very happy at this point and I hope I can say this after I put more miles on it. By the way, I live in the Chicago area and I paid only $200 over invoice. I've had read that's about on par, if not less. VW just lowered their interest rate to 1.9% for 60 months. I missed that by about a month. Oh well... How 'bout you, any problems? Good Luck and I wish you blue skys and green lights.
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    Vocus (or anyone else),
    I have a challenge for you. I'm looking for a scale model Jetta. Vocus, if you are first to come up with a source, you'll win the coveted, "Isn't This Fun Award" trophy. I believe that would make it #2 for you. You can hang it on the wall with your other one, or maybe, even take it to work for your desk. That would spiffy up your office, if you can find it under all that snow. Now, that's no fun.
    Seriously, if anyone can help, that would be good too. Thanks very much everyone. ITF? :)
  • chmeeeechmeeee Posts: 327
    What scale are you looking for? They do sell one in 1/64 scale, but thats too small for me. I usually collect 1/18 scale models. I have heard of those for the Jetta, but the only ones are actually made by VW of China (thus hard to find)
  • cards28cards28 Posts: 145
    Any size would be fine. Ya think I could get it from VW somehow? If you know where I can the 1:64, I'll get it there.
    Thanks very much Sir :)
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