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Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier

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  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    Have not had any experience with them, but any VW in the country is REQUIRED to service your car for any warranty and oil change work. If they were not wanting your business, then I say don't give it to them. Plenty of other nice salespeople out there that would be a little more appreciative.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My boss got his Galatic Blue 2001 Jetta GLS VR6 there last weekend. He said they were pretty cool and he didn't pay much more than invoice for the car. Also, he bought a 1996 Civic new back then, and said the Jetta didn't cost too much more than the Civic did. Considering his has leather and sport suspension and all, he must have gotten a really good deal.
  • fischdafischda Posts: 272
    Moira, did you call Anthony Brown at Congressional VW in Rockville? As I said a few posts ago, they really went to town to find me the exact car I wanted and at a nice price too!

    Justin, I can't believe you work accross from a VW dealer! Does your window look out on the lot? Poor guy. I don't know why VA dealers stick to that stupid processing fee. $169 for paperwork? My [non-permissible content removed]. So I just said, "okay, will you come down $169 on the price of the car?" "Sure, we can do that." Stupid, stupid... I was wondering, Justin, if you're financial strategy of giving up the Jetta is temporary for a year or two, why did you buy a new Hyundai and not a used car that you could have bought outright??

    Anyway, I'm SO glad to be out of DC! Unfortunately, chances are good I'll get sucked back into the Pentagon before my career's over.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    When you go to trade that Hyundai in in two or so years, you are going to take a big hit in what the car is worth. They don't hold their value well, even though they have a nice warranty and all that stuff.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    Vocus -

    Duh!! I know that!! :) Teasing.....I am aware of that though.

    What I am planning to do is, with a car payment of around $200 a month, just keep the car until it dies. A third car is always nice to have in the household. I know I could never get anyone to buy it.....but if it proves simple to repair and maintain, then I might as well just keep it and tool around in it. That way, if I want to later, I could LEASE something, and have a junker to put the extra miles on...:)

    Yes, my office window overlooks the VW dealer. Life is not good ;(
  • fischdafischda Posts: 272
    Scary. What does that 10/100 warranty cover? Is it b2b? Well, at least VA is a cheap state for insurance. Hey Vocus, I got a ten spot says Justin owns another Jetta within 6 months. Justin, I don't mean to pry, but do you have a wife driving your sensibilities rather than you driving your Jetta? He he...
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    I don't have 2 cars now. I only have the Hyundai. There is another car in my household, but a wife is nowhere in sight. And I don't pay anything for the other car - it is not mine. I could not afford a $30k+ Pathfinder even if I wanted to right now.

    Seriously, the Hyundai covers 5yrs/60k bumper to bumper and 10yr/100k on the engine/tran/drivetrain. Keeping it and having a nice car as well later makes sense. Like Vocus said, I would never get for the car anywhere near what I paid for it, so might as well dog it out and see what happens. Kind of fun driving a car that you don't care about. The coffee spills and door dings don't matter nearly as much....

    Have a good holiday guys! Catch ya Tuesday!
  • Has anyone actually seen a 2001 Jetta in the states with the new steering wheel that incorporates cruise and stereo controls?

    I've seen pictures, but not in person. Also, do the 2001's have the curtain addition to the front and side?

    I am still shopping for a 2001 black/beige leather 5 speed Jetta TDI/GLS, but these are important options to me and I am willing to wait a few months if they are a mid-year addition.... thanks.........
  • cac5cac5 Posts: 3
    Hey, does anyone out there know if all of the US Jetta's are made in Mexico? Everything I've read says they are, but my dealer insists Germany. I'm in the Northeast. Does that make a difference?
  • US VW's are made in mexico. you can check a particular car by opening up the drivers door and looking on the inside. there's a sticker that tells you where it was made and when.

  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    There is a sticker (that's required by federal law) on the car with information about where the car, the car's engine, and the car's transmission was assembled. It also indicates what percentage of the car's parts come from North America. The big three (now big two) lobbied congress to pass this regulation in hopes that new car buyers will buy more domestic cars. Now they're complaining that this regulation costs to much.


    Your enthusiasm for your Jetta rubbed off on me and build on my excitement on getting my own. Now you're driving a Hyundai!!! Say it aint so. Hope your investments work out well.
  • My door says assembled in Mexico. I have another sticker that says parts made in Germany and North America. Port of entry Brunswick. I love my Jetta. I paid $200. over invoice and a dealer fee of $395., which is normal here in FL. Yes, dealers here will let you walk if you don't pay the fee. If you are trying to get a Silver one here, expect to pay full Retail. I was told Silver is the High Demand color and they do not sell Silver for anywhere close to Invoice. Mine is Cool White, with Light Beige Leather. Sticker was $25,8 and got it for $23, w/o tax. 2 years of oil changes and anything that needs replacing from a light bulb to a wiper blade. I bought mine from Royal VW on Lee Rd. Friendly and Professional. Did I mention I luv the dash at night, and the passenger side Mirror that angels in reverse so when backing in I can see the curb, and how the drivers seat and mirrors move in position for me when I press the remote key to unlock the car,or how the Windows open and shut by the door key? The GLX is better than any Mercedes C class and better than any BMW 318,325, and ties the 328I. How many thousands did I save? I also purchased a SUV. Did I mention my Mercedes C Class did none of that, except for closing the windows? The E class does the same, for $47K.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    I had a feeling I would hear from you! Don't worry - I will not try to persuade you do get a Hyundai :) I am the only person that I know, that when I see something that I want, I will make even the most horrendous sacrifice, like giving up my VW :( But, it will all be good in about a year. Then, hopefully, I will be able to get something else. Though - at this point - there is not a car in the low $20k price range that I would rather have than the Jetta.

    I am excited for you! You get to have a Jetta soon! You will be quite happy with you purchase, as most people in this forum can attest to...

    Like I said - I don't think it will be long at all until I am back in the "family"....

    And for the record - All U.S. spec Jettas are build in Mexico.
  • I just returned from a second Jetta GLX test drive. That 6 is one sweet sounding and torque throwing engine. I took it for a long haul test drive and found that the suspension was not as tight as I would like it to be or thought it was. Maybe I'm just spoiled from my Eclipse's handeling characteristics. How do you GSX owners feel about this?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I am sure you meant GLX and not GSX. :)
  • I've never driven an Eclipse so I can't compare. But I'm perfectly happy with my GLX's handling. Can't beat German engineering....I drove a Jetta for four years before this one and that's why I bought another.

    Just my opinion though.

  • To answer a question everyone has, the reason silver vw's built in mexico are always sold msrp is because they are painted in mexico at high altitude and the silver paint has an additive which combined with altitude give a 30% success rate on the paint so to keep costs lower with fewer loss in bad paints jobs VW dealerships can only order 20% of there cars in silver which means 5 other colored cars for one silver. oh and I'm picking up my 2001 jetta glx vr6 on wednesday it's got those wicked 17" mags! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
  • Opps...see what I've gone in done. Confused the Eclipse model names with Jetta model names. In any case, the Jetta GLX was a blast to drive. The only thing I would do is tighten up the suspension. Definately can't beat German engineering!
  • rmg2rmg2 Posts: 3
    I am cross-shopping a Jetta and an Audi A4. The Audi comes with a 4yr 50,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty. The Jetta (I was very surprised to learn) only has a two year, 24,000 mile warranty. Anyway, I figure that to accurately compare the price of the Jetta and Audi, I should add to the cost of the Jetta the price of a two year extended, bumper to bumper, warranty. Does anyone know what that would set me back? Or where I can find out -- short of asking the dealer? Thanks.

    BTW - All you VW fans. Can someonw explain to me how VW gets by with doing a 24 month warranty, when the Japanese vendors have been doing 36 month warranties for years??
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The VW has free maintenance for the first 2 years/24,000 miles. I guess they figure since they do all the basic maintenance (basically oil changes), that makes up for the shorter warranty.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    Also - they give you 10 yrs 100k miles on the engine, tranny, and drivetrain. Who else does that besides Isuzu and Hyundai? If it is the 2 yr/24k warranty that concerns you, I don't think you would be happy with a VW......I would go for a Lexus or Infiniti or something that has a longer B2B warranty, and a car that is "supposed" to be bulletproof reliability wise. VW's have made HUGE strides in reliability, but for some people, they will worry about that anyway. You would probably be better mental health and anxiety wise to get an extended warranty, or another car. Of course, you probably would never use the warranty....:) Hopefully.....:)
  • fischdafischda Posts: 272
    Can you give a reference for your information about VW silver paint in Mexico? I own a '00 silver 1.8T (paid $400 over invoice, not MSRP), and I sudder over thoughts of paint going bad. What defect do they expect out of the 70% of the silver cars? I have to read to believe.

    BTW, I just installed splash guards - it was an easy job, and they look sweet!!
  • In case you're interested, here's one owner's experience with a 1999 Jetta GLS, with the 5-spd. stick and 2-liter, four-cylinder engine.

    The odometer just turned over 24,000 miles. So now I'm on my own with respect to all maintenance issues that are not drivetrain-related. And I do have one. There's been an intermittent problem with the remote locking/alarm. About one time out of three, when I lock the car, the alarm is armed, but the driver's door does not lock. If you open the door, the alarm does go off. Sometimes I have to unlock and then lock the Jetta again for the doors to lock properly. I brought it to the dealer before the warranty expired, but I couldn't get it to fail while the mechanic was watching. They checked it out and could not find the problem.

    Related to this, there's this gimmick on the Jetta that you may have seen on the TV commercial. If you put the key in the driver's door lock and hold it, all four windows are supposed to roll down. This worked perfectly for about 20 thousand miles, but now it only works some of the time.

    Despite these glitches, I still love the car. I've taken two long road trips, and I commute 15 miles each way, five days a week, during rush hour. I plan to keep it at least ten years.

    Mileage is 31.7 highway, and about 29 in a mix of city-highway.
  • I bought an extended b2b warranty through VW not a third party since some dealers won't honor those. It extended my b2b to 5yr/50,000 and cost an additional $1100. Not a big deal since after using it twice past the initial 2 years, it will probably pay for itself. And considering the GLX has so many electrical parts, I thought it was worth it.

  • fischdafischda Posts: 272
    If you have documented your visits to the service department prior to the warranty running out, you should get warranty repair when/if you are able to get the locking/window problem to occur in front of the service manager.

    On the down side, several posters here have had rough times with service and/or VWoA in resolving these "touchy" kind of of luck. Let us know what happens.
  • I do not own a Jetta at this time but have been following this thred to get all opinions on my soon to be purchase of a Jetta GLX. Just for the record, I have a 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS with 36,000 unfeathered miles. I hear and read horror stories about this car all over the internet and wonder why it is so. Is it the turbo models that have these reliability problems? Is it uncared for or automotive abuse that has distilled upon such a great car.

    I say these words, because not all the apples in the bunch are wrotten. I say this in defense for the new Jetta because I love everything about it. Maybe it was the sweeping european lines or the cool blue interior lighting, I just don't know for sure. If I could buy a new Jetta with the luck I've had with my Eclipse, I would be fanatic.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I have read in Consumer Reports that the Eclipses aren't too reliable too. My co-worker has a 1995 GS stick he has never had a problem with, and he has like 80K on it I think. I also have read about the bad rep of Neons. My friend's ex-wife has a 1996 sedan and she has never had trouble with it, but she only has 29K on it too. Yet he has a 2000 and it's had all sorts of problems in just under 16K miles. Guess it's just the luck of the draw.
  • fischdafischda Posts: 272
    Starting with the first family car I can remember...
    1966 Ford Esquire wagon - bulletproof car, survived engine fire
    1975 Volvo wagon - great winter car, fun to drive stick - many problems with exhaust
    1985 Nissan Sentra - Tinny POS - blew head gasket
    1971 Pontiac Bonneville (my HS car) 455 engine, 4 bbl carb, positraction, faster than friend's 350 vette - sold it before college when it blew a water pump (why didn't I keep it?)
    1985 Mazda RX-7 - bulletproof engine, fun, hard driving wore through brakes and struts, died young at 100K mi. in accident
    1993 Ford Ranger STX 4X4 - great truck, only repair in 85k mi. was clutch, brakes, new exhaust, did them all myself
    2000 Jetta GLS 1.8T - MOST fun of any car, so far no problems at all, I won't be doing my own wrenching on this car!!

    Hey Justin, how many Jetta did you watch drive off the lot from your office window today? He he.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    I don't look anymore :(

    All I can say is, around here, no one keeps their Jettas in pristine condition like I did mine, even after a year and a half of ownership.

    Hey - after 500 miles, the Hyundai is still a Hyundai! Haven't had to use that great warranty yet! :)
  • Dave, I did have the dealer note on the invoice that at 20,000 miles I had identified the problem with the locking and alarm system.

    We shall see what happens.
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