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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Heh, if you want one, just ask Karen -- she'll be happy to create a discussion for Road Trip reports on the Owners Club board.

    But feel free to share here, as well. :)
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    At this point, I am not sure if a Road Trip report forum would be worth it, though based on the numbers of people on here who have done ED, a BMW Euro Delivery Forum would be more than worthwhile and give one place to go for information/experiences/etc regarding that fabulous option (that I REALLY WISH I had done).

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yeah, that sounds like a good idea, also. Just email Karen and ask her create any discussion on the Owners Board that seems useful.

    I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to chase this conversation out of this discussion, because I am not at all. Sometimes, though, it is easier for folks to find specific information in specific topics, rather than having to look through almost 20000 (yikes!!) posts here. That is one of the advantages of having an Owners Club.

  • Paul:

    I have wondered the smae thing. An ED board would be very informative. Especially since more people ask about it. I have wondered why Bimmerfest or don't have ED boards. If I can convince my wife to do ED again in 2004, I would like to gain more info from others. I would probably do a drop off In Amsterdam or Antwerp the next time. London just did not, it was easier for me but it took my car longer to get across the pond. I would also carry touch up paint with me.
  • dfnjdfnj Posts: 2
    I just ordered a 2003 325i last week. I got $1000 off (base price) sticker. Did I get a good deal???? I ordered the car with the options I wanted, it is being made this week.
  • I am interested in 2003 330i, but I am sure what all the packages are really necessary/worth to put it. I am looking forward to keep the car for more than 5 years...

    I live in Colorado, so I suppose I need CWP. I need Xenon and STEPTRONICS.

    Do I need both SP and PP or any one of them should be fine? I am really tight in my budget since I started with 325i, then 325xi and came up to 330i.. I need to know where all I can save some bugs.

    Please advice. I need to decide on this as soon as possible. Thanks..
  • If I were to buy a new 3 series today - it would be a 330i (or 330ci) with nothing but the sport package. Add Step and Xenon's if you must, but the car is very well equipped in base form. If you are on a budget and you can live without all of the goodies, it is a great value.

    Paul, the ED forum is a great idea. My next purchase will definately be ED and it would be very nice to have one source for information!
  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    re: wheels... if you really want wheels that are bmw wheels for the winter, you'd be much better off either going to and looking for used ones or hunting on ebay... there's a reason why those "replica" wheels cost 30% of real ones, and you don't want to find that reason out when you hit a 4 inch high piece of ice in the road one day...

    look at it this way... you wouldn't play football with a "replica" helmet now, would you?

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    but chris, a replica wheel is still cast aluminum just like the real thing. a replica helmet probably wouldn't be.

  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    ok, so i stretched the analogy a little bit... :)

    but as we all know, all cast aluminum isn't created equal...

    i'm not saying there aren't good replicas... what i'm saying is that if you think you are getting something "just as good" for 25% of the price, i think you are fooling yourself...

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I emailed Karen today to see about creating it. I'm not sure who the host would be, but I will assume those duties if need be. Maybe our faithful host and keeper of the order, Pat, would do it. :)

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    but what if you're getting something 90% as good?

  • I thought a Road Trips discussion might be fun too, but I'd be mostly a reeader not writer. re: goodies... I'm not sure how I got on the mailing list, I am always surprised each time I get something in the mail. The pen is just a ball-point, nothing special but it does have a nice feel. That blanket was designed to entice me to buy a BMW, but I got the notice for it after I bought my car. I will check into the club to see about Willow Springs. Enjoy your trip to Paso Robles. PCH would definitely be a great drive, I suggest timing it so that the setting sun isn't going to bother you in whatever direction (north/south) you're heading. There's a restaurant at Rocky Point (about 1/2 mile north of the Big Sur bridge) where the food is ok, but the view is great. So many beautiful places around the central Calif. coast but you know that! :-)
  • I don't think anyone believes they're getting wheels that are as good as OEM for that much less money, at least I know I don't. What I'm looking for is something that will be good enough... safe and not hideous looking. I have been looking on ebay daily with little luck. Most of the 17"ers listed are new replicas and it seems like any used OEM's are covered with curb rash or too expensive. Thanks for the bmwwheels link, but it keeps showing me new wheels even though I'm clicking on "Used Wheels". Probably means they have no used wheels in stock for the models I'm choosing.
  • If not on a time crunch do ED...awesome and you will save 3K, allowing you to get all the options you want and need! Otherwise I agree with bmw323is...Base package is great, even the CWP is not a necessity. Bi-xenons are! Another consideration, since you are planning on owning the car for 5+ years, get ALL the options that you want, suck it up and pay the $$, because over that time, you are essentially paying less for the options, and when you sell, it will increase resale....just a thought! Good Luck!
  • Does anyone have knowledge of, or experience with, snow chains or cables on a 325i with the sport package 17-inch wheels? BMW doesn't sell any chains/cables and the dealer says there are wheelwell clearance issues. What's a guy to do!? Do I have to buy a set of wheels with snow tires just for a weekend trip to the mountains?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    "What's a guy to do?"

    Get a 325xi or a Jeep! :) heheh

    Actually, I'm curious to know as well. With my 325xi, I'm hoping I won't need chains in my area. When I go ski, I'll probably take the Jeep since I have a family of 4 and all the ski gear will fill the trunk (pants, boots, poles, etc). But if it is just the wife and I, then the chain issue may rear its ugly head.

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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Actually, I'd be delighted to host another discussion in which you folks participate. You are a great bunch of folks who are fun to read and get along around here very nicely. (Well, most of time. ;->)

    Karen will be your host of any discussion exclusive to the Owners Club board which one about ED would be. I'm sure some of you already know her from the other discussions there -- she's very cool.

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    So, do we give the word and have it created? What's the process?

  • p. 131 of my '01 325i manual says that you cannot mount snow chains on 225/45/17 tires. RTFM next time and then ask for help, esp. considering the fact that you've asked this question on the board a few times already. BTW, according to the manual, the chains should be mounted on the rears only and you should NOT exceed 30 mph. That would be one very looooong ski trip... I personally would rather be driving a snowmobile at that speed. Cheapest thing by far would be to rent an appropriate vehicle for that special skiing weekend.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Have you heard back from Karen? If not, you will soon. She'll take care of it, I promise. :)
  • I got my brake fluid changed this morning and I wanted to say "Thank you" to BMW Capital Cities in Albany, NY. They got me out on time and get his: it only took them 45 min to change the brake fluid and although the book says that it takes an hour, they only charged me for 45 min of work. It seems like a small, very well-run dealership. BTW, my brake pedal feels a tad firmer and it grips a little earlier. Now I know better where Colin was coming from on this issue - it does take some adjusting.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    wow, I'm not completely crazy!


  • next week with the wife and kid. I sure wish we were driving, but will have to settle for a plane instead. What I really want is my new 3 series and the trip. I cannot imagine much more fun than travelling through Colorado with a manual transmission bimmer in the late summertime.

    Of course the PCH wouldn't be too bad either.

    We are trying to find a new place to live and so we plan to check out Colorado and California.

    Any suggestions?
  • I live in Denver. It's a nice city, but getting very crowded. I suppose it might not feel that way coming from Houston. Housing will blow you away compared to Texas. We are not quite up to Silicon Valley or Northeast prices, but a comparable house here will cost 2-3 times what it does in Houston. And only 2 BMW "centers" in town, although there are five in the state. You are right about driving in the Rockies though - makes it all worth while!
  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    no, just halfway crazy like the rest of us... :)

    yea, i hear you on the 90% as good... good point...

    kominski - even if the used ones have road rash, so what? trust me, you are gonna get road rash over the wintertime, if you look at my basketweaves that i use in the winter, they are pretty beat up... i forget which 3er you have, can you go minus 1 to 16" and fit over the brakes? if so, that'd be an even better choice for winters... and you might have a larger selection to choose from... just a suggestion...

  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    This morning I parked next to a new 325i in a color I've never seen before. I would describe it as a metallic "rust". Is this the new red -- "Electric Red"? If so, it looks nothing like the color shown on the BMW website. If I had known that this was what BMW's red looked like now, I might have considered it.
  • I have a 330Ci... according to the folks at tirerack, the only 16" wheel that will fit over the discs is the ATP Italia Type 5 (E36 M-Contour Replica) which is on my "short list". *Alledgely* they were designed with the inner section a little larger than normal 16" wheels for that very purpose. I agree with your road rash comment, but being the goof that I am, I'd rather booger them up myself... :-) I'm keeping several options open for the next month or so until I have to decide and buy before it's too late.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Okay, for all you ED'ers, I need your help!

    There is a new forum just for BMW Euro Delivery. Yesterday, Karen created "BMW 3-Series Owners: European Delivery". It is located in the BMW 3-Series Owners Club:


    For those of you who have posted about your ED experiences, from delivery, to touring, to driving on the Autobahn, let's have it!


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