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BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier



  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    The price we pay for having so much fun driving such a great car. I just tell myself it is because I drive her a bit hard 'cause she is so fun to drive hard. Seems like a small price to pay!
  • Hosing off would be nice, but it doesn't work that well. They are easier to clean than unwaxed but, more importantly, there is a layer of protection against the nasty stuff that likes to eat away at the clear-coat (salt, etc).
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    I pulled out my manual again -- it's ASC+T: Automatic Stability Control plus Traction and you're right, I do have it! Oh, boy! Apparently this is the base upon which DSC is built. It's all explained in the "Technology Manual", which I had forgotten about. You get so many manuals when you buy a BMW you're sort of overwhelmed with information.
  • Hi Guys! Newbie here! I will get my first BMW 2003 325XI in a month. So excited! my question is, when can i start waxing the car to protect the paint and how often should i wax my baby?
    Thanxs guys
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    I would do it before it leaves the dealer:). Seriously I'm sure you going to get varied answers. Because I thought the dealer prepped it well, I didn't wax it for about 3 months. As a matter of fact because of the water restrictions, I can't even wash it now. Every month I take it to the car wash.

    But the paint is put on very well, and the clearcoat is top-notch. You don't need to "over" take care of it, unless that's what you want to do.

    But bug and tar remover is a must, and read up on the differences between the cleaner/abrasive wax polish and the carnuba wax without clearners. Klasse seems to be a favorite on this forum, it's a synthetic. You have to decide what works best for you, but the short answer is, taking car of the exterior/interior with some common sense will yield years of enjoyment from the finish. In the long run whatever cleaning regimen you decide to use is the best for your car.
  • mpynempyne Posts: 120
    about waxing our car

    your paint is cured at the factory so you can wax ASAP

    secondly if you care about your cars paint tell the dealer not to "prep it" unless you like swirl marks or worse in your clearcoat

    (check out the link below to see the damage a dealer can do to a nice new BMW)

    next go buy a micro fiber wash mitt and some micro fiber towels and some Klasse All In One and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. Then spend a weekend Detailing your car. Post you pics on and let them oohhh and ahhh at your car

    check out this site for car care tips

  • mpynempyne Posts: 120
    hopefully the advice was helpful

    i think it should be a prerequisite for furture BMW owners to view this link before they have their dealer prep their shiny new BMW.

    because a dealer porter boy WILL swirl you car to hell(not maybe he will), what they do is put a glaze on when they prep it so you cant see it until you wash the car, so owners beware!!!

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    I don't know what that is, but the dealer did a great job on my car, no swirl marks no nothing. The dealer may not have done that to that car, some dealers contract to have the work done. But that's just as bad. But I would hate to generalize just because a person had a problem. After all, if someone says, I brought my car to the dealer and they messed up on the repair. Nobody is going to say, don't let the dealer touch your car again.

    I don't believe in babying the car, but using a common sense approach to the car. I'm very fanatical about the ways the cars look, but I can only do what I can do. Everything else is out of my hands.
  • Spent a week up in Colorado and had a blast -Aspen, Co Springs, Denver, Boulder, Estes Park. Not many bimmers there compared to Houston. I drove all over the place in a 2002 Maxima and drove it pretty hard. I like Colorado and I am thinking about moving up there. FWIW I have also though about moving out to the Sacramento area -- I saw a post above comparing Austin to Sacramento.

    I agree about the overwhelming talk about snow tires. If it snows enough where you live then get a set -- this would apply to any make of car IMO.

    Here is the latest on my M3 order. About 4 weeks ago I ordered one from Momentum here in town and paid MSRP. I really liked my salesperson and we had a good relationship. The car was going to be ready by late January. I stopped by to visit him a couple of weeks after the order and a used M3 (1800miles) was just dropped off and traded by the previous owner. It was not prepped for sale or anything and I asked to drive it. We (me and my salesperson) approached the General Manager of the used car lot and he refused to let me drive the car saying that it was his policy never to let anyone drive an M car without purchasing it. I was dismayed and so was my salesperson. I left disappointed and a couple of days later I called BMW North and told them about it and they laughed and said I could come drive an M3 that day and that they would be happy to change my order for me. I drove up there and ordered an M3 --December delivery -- and drove an M3. My salesperson has volunteered to call me anytime another M3 is available so that I can stop by to drive it. I cancelled the order with Momentum. My experience at BMW North was terrific in every respect. When I placed the order, the General Manager actually came out to meet me and shake my hand, which I though was a nice touch, especially compared with Momentum.

    I thought the story might be helpful for anyone buying a bimmer in the Houston area. I have a number a friends who have had similar stories.
  • mpynempyne Posts: 120
    just trying to help, this happnes allot more than you think. it depends how much you worry about a cars paint.
    most people dont take very good of their paint finish. maybe its the detailer side of me and the fact people spend so much on a car and end up scratching it to hell.
  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    mine visits the detailer every 6 months... other than that... i've found the wax lasts longer if you never wash the car... :)

  • "depends how much you worry about a cars paint." - I worry about it every time I wake up and every night when I go to bed. I think to myself "How would I live with myself if I scratch my car to hell? Would the satan burn my alive? Will I burn for eternity?"
  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    ROFL!!! good 'un!

  • A guy at the autoX on Saturday asked me what the torque specs were for the lug nuts and I told him that according to the manual, they are 100 Nm or 72 lb/ft. He said he rememebered reading that these numbers were bumped up in one of the Roundels early this year. Can anyone confirm this? What are the new specs? What issue of Roundel was that published in - I've somehow missed that part.
  • I vaguely remember something about that. I believe the author was recommending applying some sort of lubricate on the threads and torquing them higher.
  • From the article above - "The Phazer sends one signal that tells the radar the car is going 15 m.p.h. and another signal that the car is going 312 m.p.h." Can anyone tell me how that's legal in most states?!?
  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    it's not. in any state. i'm SURE there is something in very fine print in their literature that says that it's not legal for roadway use, thus covering their rear ends...

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    "Best of all, unless you are a resident of California, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Virginia, Utah or Washington D.C., using the Phazer is completely within your legal rights."

    For the first year they pay for tickets up to 30% over the limit or 15mph, whichever is less.

    Only 15 over... feh. I usually drive only 5-10 over, but when I speed, I SPEED! ;-) Labor Day I paced a Bentley Arnage on I-35 for about an hour at 90-100 mph. Posted 70, in theory.

  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    i can't believe that it's legal in other places... i'm shocked...

    15 over ain't speeding... 15 over is merely keeping yourself from getting run over from behind... :)

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    maybe on the NJ turnpike...

    on I-35 between Oklahoma City and Wichita there's traffic for sure, but there's plenty of room to manuever on the (mostly) dead-straight road and the average person is doing the limit or 5 over.

    so when you're doing 30 over, you're a little atypical. not sure why I was following a $150,000-200,000+ vehicle at those speeds... like that guy cares about speeding tickets! LOL

  • I have had so many silver & black cars with leather upholstery and am now thinking of Alpine White with the Anthracite or Grey Jacquard fabric.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • ccotenjccotenj Posts: 610
    on the turnpike, i generally go about 5-10 over, and i can drive for miles and miles and miles without ever having to leave the right hand lane... traffic in the middle lane tends to move about 15 over... traffic in the left lane can get quite hairy, especially if someone is deciding to play traffic cop and goes 5 under in it...

    yea, i hear you on tickets... last thing i want is a ticket for going in a straight line...

  • hgeyerhgeyer Posts: 188
    Refer to the August 2002 Roundel, Tech Talk, page 110.

    "Lug-bolt torque for all BMWs has been revised by the factory. BMW-specified lug bolt torque for all models except the E53, E65 and E66 is now 120 +/- 10 Nm. For the E 53, E65 and E66, the BMW-specified lug bolt torque is 140 +/- 10 Nm."
  • Thanks!!! 120 Nm is quite a difference from 100 Nm. Wondering what prompted such a significant change. Maybe some lawyers?!?
  • The most recent issue of Automobile mag had a very interesting article from one of this year's Gumball participants. Most of those participants are driving triple-digits with some cruising at 150 mph on the highway. One of them had racked up 6 speeding tickets in one day. Most participants are wealthy foreigners who don't have or care about a driving record in the U.S. I am amazed that they still haven't outlawed this event...
  • mpynempyne Posts: 120
    boy you sure are funny!!!!

    typical moronic response.

    i bet you felt really good when you wrote that.
    next time you insult me please make sure you check your spelling before you post.

    ccotenj- yes he really showed me, boy do i feel stupid. wtf does "good un" mean?
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038

    I think you're overreacting just a bit. I don't feel brave1heart meant anything more than light-hearted humor.

    Show me where he insulted you? Yet you don't hesistate to launch your own...

    The thread you linked to originally talking about swirl marks and scratches does show images of a real problem for that person, no doubt, but to think that is typical of a BMW dealership is wild fantasy. My 7 year old M3 has no swirl marks and is always white-glove immaculate when I get it back from the dealer.

  • lokkilokki Posts: 1,200

    Passive means just that.

    I once had quite a debate with a kid who was using one in his Integra. He said that he'd had it for a month and hadn't gotten a speeding ticket once, so it was working.

    I tried to explain to him that not having gotten a ticket might be totally unconnected to having his passive jammer. When I explained that I hadn't gotten a ticket in the last month -without a jammer- he said that I was just lucky.

    So, if you decide to buy one, I hope you're one of the lucky ones.

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