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Lexus ES 300/ES 330



  • jerryandjerryand Posts: 8
    Does anyone know how to open the brake light box(plastic) in the back window of the 1996 Lexus ES300. One of the bulbs has blown out.

    Thank you

  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    It's interesting that Consumer Reports would place the Acura TL ahead of the ES in reliability. That car has had well-documented transmission failure problems. My brother has a 2002 CL that had the transmission go at about 12,000 miles. But they replaced it and it's been fine ever since.

    Overall, the Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus cars are still near the top, if not the top, in terms of quality and reliability. Comparing them on quality is like splitting hairs.

    Just take a look at all the problems with cars like the Jaguar X-Type, Audi/VW and BMW 7 Series and you'll see they don't compare to Lexus.
  • raffeerraffeer Posts: 4
    Many thanks to neuro guy for the heads up on TOYO tires. My '02 ES300 has had the noisiest cabin of any car I have ever owned. It also has TOYO tires.
    A call to Lexus of Pembroke Pines (FL) has me with an appointment on Monday to change the tires. No problem, no discussion.
    The car otherwise has been a pleasure to own and drive and I would definitely recommend the dealer.
  • Just got a Pebble ding on my brand new 2005 ES 330 hood !!! Down to the metal but very small and no dent. Help !

    What is the best way to fix this ?
  • My sister has a 2001 Acura CL. She has 80k miles and has had no issues at all. She drives the car very hard in heavy traffic.

    My Lexus on the other hand in addition to the transmission problems, has had the rotors replaced at 12k miles and the steering wheel recalled. It also appeears to have a design flaw with respect to the sunroof; when I travel on the highway, the wind noise is unbearable. It now has 15k miles.

    It doesn't surprise me at all that the Acura TL is ahead of the ES300. But I agree that they are pretty close in reliability according to cr. Though, when I purchased the Lexus, I expected it to be number one. And definitely did not expect it to below the Infiniti(Nissan.)

    I expect a lot from a car when the "Pursuit is Perfection." That is why I paid the higher price. I did not expect it to stumble and shudder.
  • I am experiencing odor smell.
    Ususally when the car (02 es300) starts, sometimes the smell last hours. Especially when you turn the heat on in a cold morning.
    It does not happen everyday. I read these lexus forum, it seems this problem happen with several lexus model.
    I went to 15k miles service, which cost me $255, and I asked the service manager. He told me the manufacture is aware of this problem, but has no solution. He suggest me use the best gasoline, which I already do (I use Shell 93 all the time).
    Not happy about this.
    But my next car mostlikely will still be a lexus.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 854
    Try a different major brand of gasoline. You could also try a mid-grade unleaded to see if it would help but I would first try a different brand. Different brands use slightly different additives.
         What services were performed at the 15K service that added up to $255.00?
  • ramza39ramza39 Posts: 23
    The exhaust pipe is hanging very low on the ES300 and there are couple inches of clearance between the pipe and the chasis.

    I read the Camry site and many owners are very frustated with this design because it shouldn't happen on Toyota/Lexus cars. I've also noticed that Corollas(95-02) also have this design flaw, but it seems Toyota has fixed this problem on the new Corolla(03).

    Because the ES300 shares the same platform with the Camry and some owners said their tailpipes scraped the driveways and the speedbumps and it seems the tailpipes are driving them crazy, so does anyone experience that the tailpipe of the ES300 scrapes the ground, speed bump or steep driveway?

    I am planning to get a new car and ES300 is on top of my list and I am really concerned about this flaw because it shouldn't happen on a $30+ grand car.
  • carperscarpers Posts: 8

    If it's the same as for my 98 ES300, you just slide the interior plastic housing forward and access then is easy.

    Now, does anyone know how you gain access to the front directional signal lamp?
  • raddboy41raddboy41 Posts: 249
    On my '95 ES300 the signal lamp comes out as a unit with the Headlamp. Just a few screws under the hood and the whole assembly slides forward. Don't forget to disconnect the wiring harnesses. Very easy.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    I've owned two ES 300s and have never had a problem with a low-hanging tailpipe. I have never scrapped an exhaust pipe, bottomed out, etc.

    I honestly don't know what you're referring to, and know for a fact that there is no design flaw with regard to this. Therefore nothing needs to be fixed. Cars such as Corvettes and Porsches have pipes much closer to he ground.

    If you plan on getting an ES 300 I would not let this stop your purchase.
  • daytona01daytona01 Posts: 46
    Agree... the exhaust pipe is hanging little low (but not as low as the Camry)...
    I looked from the back of my car... The lowest point is at the position underneath the back seat... I think it has at about (at least) 6 inches...

    I think 6 inches.. is more than enough for any ordinary driveway or speedbums right ?

    Even enough for you to climb over the sidewalk curb.. :-)

    Why don't you go to a Lexus dealer... and take a real look at ES300
  • billmahanbillmahan Posts: 68
    I am looking to buy a Camry XLE, an Avalon, or an ES 300.

    I was wondering if maintenance costs on the Lexus are significantly higher than on the Toyotas. (A) is that true? (B) Does the warranty stay intact, if you service your Lexus at a Toyota dealership that may have lower service costs.

    Although the Lexus is $7000 or more than a fully loaded Camry, I like the interior and exterior on the ES300 so much more than on the Camry, that I am still considering the extra dollars. That's not a complaint about the Camry, just my view.

    If anyone can shed some insight on Lexus service costs, please do.
  • sddlwsddlw Posts: 361
    Depends....are you going to use the dealer or an independent?

    Here in North Co. San Diego, the Lexus Dealer charges roughly double for a 30K service or a front end brake job (my most recent services that I did comparision shopping on) on an ES300 than the Toyota dealer down the street does for a Camery. However, unlike some Toyota dealers, this one will not service my Lexus.

    The independent mechanic I use charges the prices more or less in line with the Toyota dealer to work on my Lexus. ..... but my mechanic doesn't have loaners and doesn't wash the car.
  • billmahanbillmahan Posts: 68
    Thanks for the info.

    Does Lexus recognize service done by independents or Toyota dealers if you have warranty problems. Let's say all of your oil changes were done at Bob's garage and the engine goes bad. Does Lexus still warrant the engine under those circumstances?

    Thanks again.
  • rparisrparis Posts: 368
    I have all routine work done at an independent garage. Anything major I would probably go to Lexus as they have the expertise for a major repair.

    It also depends on how long you keep your car-if you trade at, say 50 kmiles, maybe there is almost no major maintenance that you would have to do, so it would be a moot point.

    On a previous ES I had there was a problem (The dealer ended up buying the car back as after 7 times for the same repair I told them I did not want the car) and where I had service was never a question.

    The Avalon is larger inside; if you frequently need to transport more than two adults and is a nice car as well.

    I just purchased a 2003 ES model and really like the vehicle-much nicer than the 2000 I was driving.

    Hope this helps.
  • pdiddypdiddy Posts: 1
    Hey everyone,

    I just test drove a 2003 fully loaded ES 300 and fell in love immediately. But, I heard from a BMW dealership that scheduled maintenance on the ES 300 is quite expensive. Can anyone give me approx figures?
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 318
    i'm sure bmw costs MUCH more to fix and maintain, not to mention bmw is not famous for reliability. (yes, i know the bmw has free maintaince program, but you gonna spend much much more than lexus when the program expires)
  • sddlwsddlw Posts: 361
    My guess, based on our own experiences with both Lexus and Mercedes, and second hand info on BMW is that scheduled maintanence will be fairly similarly proced, but will vary from one dealer or mechanic to another. Probably $100-150 for minor services (every 5K), $300-500 for major service intervals (15K, 30K, etc.). This has become a hugh profit center for the dealers. The independents are usally lower. As far as unscheduled maintanence, hands down, the Lexus will most likely require much less.
    But if you only keep a car as long as the factory waranty before trading it in, this might not matter to you.
  • daytona01daytona01 Posts: 46
    my first tank (2003 ES)
    13.4 gallons for 299 miles = (just) 22.31 mpg
       80% highway at 60-70 mph
       20% local at 25-40 mph
       car idling at minimum
       conservative driving style (no unnecessary brake or accelerate)
    I hope... mpg will getting better.. after break-in period.
    How is your mpg ?
  • gekko2gekko2 Posts: 87
    tell the BMW salesman to go pound sand...

    J.D. Power and Associates Reports:
    Lexus Continues to Set the Industry Benchmark
    In Long-Term Vehicle Dependability

    Problems Reported at Four to Five Years of Ownership
    Drops 7 Percent for the Industry

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: November 21, 2002

    WESTLAKE VILLAGE, Calif. - Lexus ranks highest in long-term dependability for the eighth consecutive year, according to the J.D. Power and Associates 2002 Vehicle Dependability Index (VDI) StudySM released today. All of the top five ranking nameplates in the study are Japanese brands, with Infiniti, Acura, Honda and Toyota following Lexus, respectively. amp;CatID=1
  • I've got 3 tanks and 1000 miles under my belt (tires?).

    First tank, the dealer filled (assumed full) tank, was 20.6 MPG with about 5% Highway (50+ MPH) and 95% Local.

    Second tank was about 29.4 MPG with about 95% Highway driving.

    Third tank was 22.9 MPG with 5% Highway.

    Those MPG figures are calculated (miles/gallons) by me. The corresponding CAR determined average MPG was 20.6, 29.4 and 22.9 respectively. The only significant discrepancy is in the initial dealer filled tanked, so I suspect that full tank may have been just a little light. The relative accuracy of the CAR determined average has surprised me, I suspect the CAR determined average might over-estimate MPG.

    Driving style has been very conservative for the first 1000 miles.
  • daytona01daytona01 Posts: 46
    Thanks... jimodonnel
    So hopefully my mpg will getting better.. after the break-in
  • rparisrparis Posts: 368
    What octane gas are the above mpgs with?
  • sopecreeksopecreek Posts: 203
    I just had 30K scheduled maintenance and paid $467 in total including tax. Best of all, it was my daughter's spring break so I dropped my car (2001 ES) on Friday and went down to Savannah, GA and Tybee island on a loaner (I told my service rep about the trip beforehand and he said no problem at all.) I returned the car Monday afternoon and overall drove 700 miles. Another nice surprise was the 10% discount I got on labor charge, which I found out only after noticing the total bill was lower than the original estimate. I thought that was great.
    The loaner was 2003 ES 300 (it always used to be RX 300 before, so a little bit of disappointment from my wife here).
    I just thought I'd share my experience.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 854
    How did the 2003 ES300 compare to your ES300?
  • sopecreeksopecreek Posts: 203
    > How did the 2003 ES300 compare to your ES300?

    Well, I was always curious about the 5 spd tranny issue that some were experiencing. Since I could not remember how to reproduce the hesitation, I probably was unable to even try it. But based on my 3 days of driving city and highway, I didn't notice any problem. In fact, I must say it shifted more smoothly than my 4 spd version.
    When cornering, I felt more bolted to the seat although it's no beemer for sure.
    I definitely liked the seat better than my 2001 version. Much less back pain (I have really bad lower back.) Also, the seat seems to adjust higher than 2001 as noted by my 5'2" wife (that's why she likes RX300, visibility :)
    Overall, the 2003 ES seemed to be built tighter than 2001.

    The noise coming from the engine was definitely less (much less!) but strangely wind noise was about the same. Front loading 6-cd changer was nice (how do you get the CDs out if the changer somehow jamms up?). Dual climate control was great since my wife complains cold all the time!
  • rparisrparis Posts: 368
    I have owned both a 2000 and 2003 ES-I think the 2003 is far superior-very quiet and a great ride.Very smooth
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    "how do you get the CDs out if the changer somehow jamms up?"

    Assuming it's still under warranty, you get a replacement unit and your jammed unit gets sent to a repair center. Then, you get your CDs in the mail a few weeks later.

    I haven't heard anyone complaining of a jammed in-dash CD changer on the new ES, but have heard plenty of complaints from IS300 owners (which use a different brand stereo). Lexus has been using Pioneer for their standard stereos since the beginning, so beats me why they switched to FujitsuTen for the IS300.
  • The octane for each of the first four tanks is below, It's far to early to reach any conclusion of octane effect on mileage.

    Tank 1 - 87 octane - 5% Highway - 20.6 MPG
    Tank 2 - 87 octane - 95% Highway - 29.4 MPG
    Tank 3 - 93 octane - 5% Highway - 22.9 MPG
    Tank 4 - 93 octane - 5% Highway - ~23 MPG

    The fourth tank is not yet completed. The estimate of about 23 MPG is based on the trip computer calculation. This weekend I'll fill up with 93 octane just before taking the same trip I took on Tank 2; that will start to form the basis of a representative comparison of the effect of the higher octane for this car. I'll then run a couple of local tanks on 87 octane.

    According to the dealer the higher octane would increase hard acceleration performance; I think the manual says higher octane increases performance without any more explanation. I haven't yet detected an appreciable difference in the performance of the 2 octane levels; but I also haven't really pushed the car yet. Probably at about 2000 miles I'll revert to my previous driving habits of faster accelerations, at that time I might be able to detect performance differences between the two octane levels.
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