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Lexus ES 300/ES 330



  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    Does anyone know if there's a technical limitation that prevents Lexus from configuring one with ML but no Nav?
  • gekko2gekko2 Posts: 87
    igiban - I don't think there's a technical limitation - I think it's just that Lexus makes a calculated logistical demand guess of how many of what options-equipment is needed per region. I guess they feel if you want the NAV, you'll pay a little more and want the ML. I didn't need the ML but it was required if I wanted the NAV. Just buy it and enjoy it!
  • I was looking for one with NAV but w/o ML actually back when I was shopping for a 300 (330 has it now I think), thinking that base audio from Lexus should be good enough. Of course I was forced to take ML with NAV but glad to find out how good ML is. Now at times I got into these 300/330 loaners, which never had NAV/ML, I can't stand it. In fact, ML gives me pleasure every min. in the car, while NAV is used only when needed (20% of driving at best).

    Knowing what I know now if I were to get an ES needing no NAV, I sure would love to pay a few hundreds for the ML, which is so much better than the base. That's if you listen to music a lot tho.
  • Davebell1,

    Goods news. The dealer's field engineer fixed the squeak. There is a TSB for certain seat squeaks which requires the dealer to remove the seat and grind an uneven weld on the bottom of the seat frame. The squeak is gone and the car is great. Dealer service was outstanding, they picked the car up, dropped off a loaner and later in the day brought my car back. Lexus Service has been number one in getting this right. :)

  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    Does 330 add this new feature/option?
  • hk2lahk2la Posts: 53
    Was wondering what psi most of you are keeping your tires at; the guy at the dealer said they put it at 32, 35 max. 32 presumably gives you the lexus floating ride. But I was wondering if that is actually good overall for the car/tires.

    Also, has anyone had any problems with the Toyo tires?
  • hk2lahk2la Posts: 53
    btw, they had to recalibrate using a different method. The first one didn't take. It's been okay since then.

    And kreativ, the hard shifting i felt could not possibly be compared to some little surge caused by the AC.
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    Recommended cold tire pressure for your '02 ES (as stated in owner's manual and printed on a label in the car) is 29psi. This is the setting Lexus engineers have decided provides the optimal combination of ride comfort and road handling. Set it higher if you seldomly check tire pressure.

    What problem are you having with your Toyo Proxes J33 tires? The main complaint has been excessive road noise. And given that they're high performance summer tires, the treadwear rating is pretty low - meaning they'll need to be replaced sooner.
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    The TSB I mentioned was for '02+ ES. But the information might be useful for your '01 as well.
  • sopecreeksopecreek Posts: 203
    Thanks. I addressed the issue to my dealer during 45K service. The creak occurs mostly when it's cold. Unfortunately, it was warm week when the service was done and they couldn't reproduce it. I think I'll learn to live with it.
  • hk2lahk2la Posts: 53
    Thanks, kreativ, I didn't see the psi setting in the owners manual, just who to contact for which tires. I guess I'll look thru that manual again, and get out a magnifying glass for that little car sticker.
    Well, one of my tires blew out---completely. And on the freeway. and no, i did not run over anything that could possibly have caused that horrendous event.
  • hk2lahk2la Posts: 53
    You should have a full size spare, plus a full set of tools.
  • moejoemoejoe Posts: 2
    I am looking to buy either an Acura TL or Lexus es330. I am a person who becomes VERY!!! annoyed at little sounds in the cabin of the car. I like the style of the tl better than the es 330 but as I have read, the ES seems much more quiet which I ultimately favor over exterior styling. I need reassurance that the es is the car to get.

  • Has anyone had a remote car starter installed in a 04 ES330? Called the service dept. and they said they would bring in a outside vendor to do the install. I am a little nervous about hacking into the factory wiring. any comments would be welcome. BTW The car has 5000 mi. and no problems or complaints.
  • toydrivertoydriver Posts: 227
    Like you I become annoyed at squeek, snaps, crackles and pops. I have had my '03 ES since last May and am very satisfied with the "quiet" inside the cabin. (Only minimal road noise at 70mph). Some have mentioned a few minor noises which may be related to outside cold temps - I haven't noticed).
    However, you could also be annoyed by the shifting of the ES (see posts under ES Transmission complaints).
    Bottom line, you need to drive both cars to see which is right for you.
  • I am trying to help my girlfriend with her 1998 ES300 4 door with just over 100,000 miles. An oil leak has recently occured (dripples on the driveway). A generic auto check shop said the front oil pan gasket had gone bad: $390 to fix. Any other owners with this issue? I am tempted to just let it dripple and add oil as needed.
    Also, the front suspension makes clunking noises when going over bumps...especially when it is colder...she said it has always done that since new... Concerns me... Thanks for the input.
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    A friend went 15000 miles on a leaky oil pan gasket, without having to refill between 5000 mile oil changes, before getting it fixed. It's the labor that's expensive, as the gasket itself is inexpensive. Get price quotes from the Toyota service centers local to you.

    Clunking/squeaking noise when going over bumps at low speeds in cold weather is a common complaint. It can be annoying, but was told it wasn't a safety issue. Replacing the bushings is supposed to do the trick, if you're willing to pay the $$$ to suppress a noise that will eventually return.
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    The ES keeps road noise out very well, partially due to the sound-absorbing insulation being used. Just hope your ES doesn't come with a miscallaneous squeak or rattle somewhere, or it may end up annoying you more (no more road noise to mask it). To some, a constant drone is less annoying than a quieter environment with a constant ticking, squeaking, or rattling noise.
  • I am experiencing cracking noise like old LP with my CD changer when I play burned CD. Is this problem universal? The dealer and Lexus Customer Services say nothing they can do. Any help or remedy is appreciated.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,191
    Does the burned CD make the same noise when played inside? If so, I'd say you have a bad CD. If not, sounds like there could be a problem with the car's unit. Does the unit play regular(store bought)CD's OK?
  • I suspect there is something irregular with the unit. Nonetheless, the dealer says it is built that way, i.e., it can play store CDs but burned ones. This is quite remarkable!!!
  • Does anyone have any experience swapping out the standard Lexus head unit for an aftermarket one? Specifically I was wondering how it came out since my understanding is that the original Lexus unit is an odd size and not easily swapped.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    Has anybody else heard about an ES 330 SportDesign?

    My dealer mentioned one will be available and will be shown at next week's Chicago Auto Show. Supposedly it will be offered in Graphite Gray, Thundercloud or Black with either a Light Charcoal or Black interior. The only other differences are a different wheel design (still 16") and Black Bird's Eye Maple wood trim.
  • igibanigiban Posts: 530
    w/o remaking its ext. look. Mission impossible!
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    As I mentioned earlier, there will be an ES 330 SportDesign. It is up on the Lexus website.
  • I have been considering a Lexus ES as an upgrade to my aging Camry, but the body style of the current ES is really too close to the Camry for my taste. Does anyone have any idea when the body style might be updated, and what it might look like?
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    It's interesting you find the ES style too close to the Camry. When the car came out most auto writers said Lexus finally distanced the car from the Camry and gave the ES its own distinctive look.

    Anyway, the ES will get some cosmetic changes this fall for the 2005 model year. These will include a subtle restyling of the front and back ends, along with some minor equipment changes. To see past examples of similar changes, look at what Lexus did to the ES in 1995 (vs 1994) and in 2000 (vs 1999). Or, for a more recent look at mid-cycle changes, look at what Lexus did to the LS 430 for 2004 vs 2003. At this time nobody knows what the changes will be.

    The car will be completely redone in fall 2006 as a 2007 model. At that point the car will be designed by the all-new, Lexus-exclusive team in Japan and will not share a platform or parts with Toyota as is the case now. The car will follow Lexus' new styling trend shown on the new GS (again, to separate Lexus from Toyota) currently at the Chicago Auto Show and going on sale in January 2005. Nobody knows what the next ES will look like, but you can almost be sure AWD will either be an option or standard (as it will for all future Lexus cars).
  • Does anyone have a problem with the ventilation system on the ES 330?

    When the driver and passenger temperatures are set the same, the driver vents blow much colder than the passenger side. Also, I need to have the temperature at 78 degrees to make the interior comfortable when it is 60 degrees outside. The system intended to be sophisticated is very uneven. Lexus said they are aware of the problem but have no plans for a fix.
  • lexusaz,

    I have noticed exactly the same behaviour in the beginning (driver side cold air, passenger side warm) and needed to set the temperature somewhat high.

    Did Lexus say why that is happening and why they don't want to fix it?
  • bartalk2bartalk2 Posts: 326
    Is the ES330 sport edition just cosmetics, or are there suspension changes, etc? ES330 sport edition? Oxymoron.
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