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Lexus ES 300/ES 330



  • ruby1ruby1 Posts: 8
    Consider yourself lucky. I have had multiple things wrong with my ES 330! I've had more rattles than a 6 month old baby. My car, which was brand new, has only 5,100 miles on it and it has been in the shop for a total of 16 days since August. My parents have 2 Lexus cars and have owned 3 with no problems. I think I got the lemon! They just had to replace my windshield because it was set a 16th of an inch to high at the factory, which caused a major rattle along the dashboard. I've had transmission problems, a rattle in the reading light and a tear upon delivery in the leather. The windshield was sub-jobed out and they put the RX 330 Trim Kit on and took 3 large chips of paint out of the metal. I have had multiple problems with McGrath Lexus service in Chicago.
  • ruby1ruby1 Posts: 8
    Has anyone else experienced a clicking noise coming from the navigation consul? It seems to happen most when I press on the gas pedal around 15 to 20mph. The unit can be turned off or on with no radio on or cd playing and I still hear it.
  • ruby1ruby1 Posts: 8
    I've had two Camry's prior to my ES 330. The ride and handling is superior to that of the Camry (LE). I have had more problems with my Lexus with rattles than I've ever had on the 4 Toyota's that I've owned. Honestly, I think I unfortunately got one of the very few lemons that roles off the Lexus assembly line. No hassle money saving tip when purchasing the car: If you are a member of Costco, you will get $2500 dollars off the sticker price. Just go to and they will lead you to a dealership in your area that is aligned with them. It doesn't cost a thing and it's very simple to do. They have a large selection of cars and dealerships so you might find that you can save some money on the Audio as well.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    According to this article dated April 12 in a Pittsburgh newspaper, there may be a new transmission fix:
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    Interesting article...thanks for the link, lenscap. This looks like a new upgrade, since it references 2002-2005 vehicles (the previous software upgrade came out in 2003 IIRC). With the previous upgrade, it was stated that you could only upgrade the software once and that was it. I wonder if this will prevent those who got the previous upgrade (which didn't seem to help much) from upgrading again.
  • atoewsatoews Posts: 637
    This is where % MSRP comes in handy. For a 35,000 car (MSRP), you got a price of (35,000 - 2500)/35000, which is approximately 93% MSRP - quite a bit more than the average poster on this board is paying,

    To get what the average poster is getting (90% MSRP) your car would have to have had an MSRP of only $25000, which I don't believe any ES330 has right now.

    To see if you got the kind of deal that the average poster on this board, calculate the following:

    (MSRP-Discount)/MSRP = x. x should be .89 - .90 or less to get as good or better deals than many of the posters are getting, without going through clubs and without a lot of negotiating.

    Like you, I purchased my car through Sam's Club, and found I paid about the same price as others on this board, most of whom did not go through Sam's or Costo or whatever.
  • cfazzaricfazzari Posts: 77
    This type of stuff goes on in all industries. The dealer will simply boost up the price somehow on the Costco buyer, and get his price anyway. Most if not all industries do this - Dell Offers free shipping on a computer (saving you say, $50) or they offer you a free CD Burner (Saving you the same $50) - But not both. My wife ordered a hutch on-line, with free shipping (saving her $200) and she found the same hutch from a different vendor for $200 cheaper (but the shipping was $200).

    My gut tells me the best way to do this is that you build the car you want online, establishing a baseline price for it, and have diffferent dealers compete for your money. Believe me these people have been around for centuries...I think they pass their spirits from one body to the next...they've got every angle figured out before you walk in the door (try trading a car in if you want to see the full trade in motion) may get a good deal but it will mean you worked overtime for it.
  • future1future1 Posts: 103
    Quote: According to this article dated April 12 in a Pittsburgh newspaper, there may be a new transmission fix:

    Thanks for the link. I emailed a question to Lexus asking them about the corresponding TSB, if any. Will report when I get an answer.
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    Is there still a site in which you can get a list of TSB numbers and titles? I remember I used to be able to get a TSB summary list through AllData, but don't see that option available anymore (at least not without charge).
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    Costco and Sams Club services can't get you a lower price than you are really able to get negotiating on your own, but it saves you the time of fighting to get to the price.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yes, right here. Go to this link and fill in the form:*.

    If you want more information, stop by our Technical Service Bulletins discussion. 0patience and/or alcan will get you the entire text of any one that interests you.

  • future1future1 Posts: 103
    OK, after much of digging, I found that April 1st Lexus transmission TSB. Looks like it is a recent update to the TSB issued in August 2003. Since the update refers to the 2005 Lexus ES330 model as applicable, I'll have it done.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Thanks for posting that! Let us know how it goes.
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    pat - Thanks for the pointers and the links. Quite useful!
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    future1 -

    Thanks for posting the PDF file of the updated TSB! How did you manage to find it on your own?

    Let's hope this update is more successful than the original one in solving the driveability issues!
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    What is the likelihood this old fix is going to cure the problem on the ES330 when I thought the problems still remain on the previous models it was tried on?
  • atoewsatoews Posts: 637
    I thought that neither of you experienced an iota of a transmission symptom in your vehicles? Why the focus on a fix then?

    The reason I care is that I believe that owners who deny the problem are not helping the rest of us get our cars fixed. Also, owners who do not feel symptoms help perpetrate the view that some vehicles have the problem and others don't.

    Note that I greatly appreciate your efforts in locating the TSB info. But I for one would like to hear both of you admit that you feel the symptoms.
  • czgczg Posts: 1
    I heard that by about April 2006 , there will be a 2007 model of Lexus ES 3xx (350?) . Then what about the 2006 model of Lexus ES330.

    My question is if it is true that by April 2006 the model of Lexus ES 3xx will have totally different style (appearence).
    Any one knows it? I would like to wait for new body style if in 11 months the ES 3xx 's body will be different. I do not want to buy a car whose look will be "out of date" that soon.

    Thank you for your information.
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    The 2007 ES will definitely will be an all design and powertrain. Toyota/Lexus usually sticks to the 5 year redesign cycle. I am almost 99% sure the engine would be the 3.5L that is found in the 05 Avalon. Hence, the name will most likely be ES 350. If I were in the market for the ES, I would skip the current generation and wait for the all new ES that would make its debut either in Spring or Fall of next year. Should be a vast improvement over the current ES.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    If they can fix the driveability problems and you can get a great lease deal, then a 2005 or 2006 is still worth getting since the 2007s will cost much more.
    Even if MSRP is only slightly higher, the lack of discounting and cut rate leases will make it much more expensive.
    At the end of a 3 year lease of an ES330, you can move on to the new design if you still want it and the new ES model should be well discounted by then and maybe even have a few refinements and new features compared to the initial 2007 model.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    The ES 330 will become the ES 350 with a redesign scheduled to happen sometime between March-August of next year. Lexus applied to trademark the name ES 350 last month (because the 3.5 engine will replace the 3.3). The new design will bring the L-Finesse design philosophy to the ES.
  • kmg68kmg68 Posts: 108

    The new Lexus ES350 should be hitting the dealerships in March of 2006. I would wait 11 months to at least see if paying a little more for a y2007 wll be worth it, rather than buying the current MY ES330 that may potentially have transmission issues. just MHO.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    Looks like the new Avalon has similar transmission problems, so waiting for the ES350 may be pointless.
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    I actually got a chance to test drive the new Avalon and didn't find any problem with the transmission whatsoever. Shifts are almost undetectable and if anything it might be too quick for most people, taking off like a mad horse when you press the gas pedal. I frequently check the Avalon board and just about all the real owners seem very happy.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    There was a review (USA Today?) that commented on the poor transmission performance of the new Avalon.
    Many people notice nothing wrong during test drives or they wouldn't have purchased the cars. Weeks or months later, they start complaining.
  • My 2005 Classic Silver Metallic now has 3,500 miles and is the nicest car I have ever owned. I use it for highway back and forth between two residences. I look forward to those trips and enjoy the way this car drives. Tranny could be better
    shifting but works just fine for my driving habits. When I do stomp on the pedal
    there is no noticeable hesitation and she takes right off. I would not hesitate to
    buy another.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    The new Avalon with the 3.5L V6 has a 5-speed automatic. You can bet the 2007 ES will get a 6-speed automatic transmission. So the Avalon's tranny problems(if it really does have any like the current ES) probably will not shift over to the new ES.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    It may have new problems.
    Running from the current ES330 to an unproven, all-new design to escape mechanical problems doesn't make sense especially if they ever get a fix to the current hesitation issue.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    The 6-speed automatic is probably going to be shared with the IS350 as well as the GS300/350. So far, the GS300 with the 6-speed has not gotten any bad reviews about the transmission. Since the 3.5L V6 is from the same family as the 3.0L V6 in the GS300, the transmission will likely be the same.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    It's probably not going to have the same transmission as the IS and GS since the ES is front drive.
    Also, even if the tranny issue is solved with the new design, the car is an all new design that may have new problems not related to the transmission that may take a while to show up.
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