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Lexus ES 300/ES 330



  • jeanijeani Posts: 7
    I'm not sure what might be the problem, but the car had stalled twice (once at 300 and the other at 1K miles) when I changed gears from reverse to drive. The dealership hasn't figured it out, but the car drives fine otherwise. Any thoughts? Also, my car has adjustable pedals, do you think that may have something to do with it?
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    There is a 2007 Lexus ES forum. It is expected the 2007 Lexus ES will appear by the middle of 2006.
  • alston28alston28 Posts: 97
    The key to my 2002 ES300 just broke. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to replace it? It is one of my two "electric" keys. The plastic part broke off from the metal key part. My other "electric" key still works. So does my valet key. Can I just call the dealer and get a replacement electric key; or does the "ecm" in my car need to be "reflashed" or replaced, too? Thanks.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    Where is the 2007 Lexus ES forum? Thanks.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,191
    It is in Future Vehicles, or just put "2007 lexus es" in the Search Forums at the lower left.
  • Do any one here a " Barqq" Sound, like something got slamed ... closed when you strart driving, with the AC on or off. My Lexus give this sound when I put it to "D" and start moving. it happens like 15 feet from the point of start.

    Thanks :)
  • larry1larry1 Posts: 29
    I know about this, because I just bought a used ES with only a valet key, and I can not get a master key!

    You, however, do not need to get your Engine Control Module reflashed or replaced, because you can get another key made and use the other master key you still have to program the new key. Do not delay. If your second master key is broken, lost or stolen, then unfortunately it will cost $1,500 to replace the ECM and get new master keys at a Lexus dealer. That is no joke.

    Even considering that you still have one master key, the price to get a second is going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $187 from Lexus! Again, no joke.

    There is an alternative. Using your VIN, many locksmiths can get the key code and laser cut you a master key. Then you can program it yourself using the following instructions:

    To duplicate a key:

    1. Simultaneously depress and release brake and accelerator pedals 1 time.
    2. Insert existing master key into ignition.(DO NOT TURN)
    3. Within 15 seconds depress and release accelerator pedal 5 times, (not too rapidly).
    4. Within 20 seconds depress and release the brake pedal 6 times and remove key.
    5. Within 10 seconds insert new key into ignition.
    6. Within 10 seconds depress and release the accelerator pedal 1 time. At this time the security light starts blinking.
    7. After 45 to 60 seconds new key is registered and security light goes off (stops blinking).
    8. Remove new key and try starting the car.

    When Lexus dealers or locksmiths mention "programming" a key, they make it sound like a PHD in engineering is needed to complete the arduous task. Wrong, anybody can quickly do it if they have the information.
  • hiyaqthiyaqt Posts: 3
    Has anyone had any experience with the Clear Bra? I am picking up my ES330 today & they made a big pitch for the clear bra. It's pretty expensive. Is the paint on this car that easy to chip to make it worth the investment?
    I would appreciate any comments.
  • atoewsatoews Posts: 637
    The following comments apply to 2002-2005 ES only.

    I've had to replace my "auto" key twice! The process is that Lexus will send a new key to your dealer. You have to bring in all your keys, along with your car, to have them reprogrammed, along with the new key.

    Each new key now costs $250. Ouch! If your key broke, they will replace it under warranty. If you lose it, you will need to pay for it, with an additional charge for programming. I brought my broken one into the dealer.

    Of course, anyone who finds a lost key can still open your car doors manually.
  • atoewsatoews Posts: 637
    What is the model year of your vehicle? I ask because I do not understand your instructions at all. Do you have a pre-2002 vehicle? In 2002-2005, there is no such thing as a "master key". In fact, I don't even think they are officially called "keys". They are called "engine enablers". Whatever, you can replace them, and you should be able to get a new one.

    It sounds as though, if someone follows your instructions, anyone who gets ahold of any ES key, can reprogram that key, and start your car. When you take your keys to Lexus for reprogramming, it insures that your old program no longer works. The dealer insisted that there is no way to reprogram any key to the same program that was originally in your keys. I am under the impression that all keys, and your engine, need the new program.
  • olddaveolddave Posts: 21
    When I purchased my 2005 ES 330 in April, I got a "moderate" amount of pressure to purchase their clear bra, but I opted not to buy it. The car color is "Alabaster Metallic", a very light color. Now, with 5500 miles on the car, I have just noticed a good-sized chip in the front bumper along with 2 or 3 smaller chips in the immediate area of the larger chip. I can clearly see dark primer where the paint was. This damage probably occurred during our recent 3900 mile trip from Denver to Washington DC. My philosophy is that a "New" car doesn't stay "New" very long, but considering the price of this car, front paint protection is probably a good idea, depending on how long you want to keep the car, and if resell value is important to you or not. We tend to keep cars for at least 10 years anyway, so I am ambivalent about whether or not I needed to buy the expensive clear bra in the first place.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,191
    No, based on the instructions, anyone could reprogram the found key and start their car, because they would have their original/master key. If they found your key of course it would start your car with no programming required. .
  • larry1larry1 Posts: 29
    Mine is a 2000. First, before a key can be programmed, it has to be the specific type for that year and model of vehicle. Then it has to be cut like most keys. Most or all Lexus keys are "laser cut". Then you would have to know exactly which vehicle the key is for. Then you have to have a master already to program the new key. If you already had someone's master, you wouldn't need another key to steal the car.

    I personally am not going to pay many hundreds to 15 hundred dollars to get a couple of master keys. I'll just have to continue to open the car door in order to open the trunk, and I'll have to be real careful not to lock my one and only valet key in the car, or to lose it at all :)
  • atoewsatoews Posts: 637
    larry1 confirmed my suspicions. He has a 2000 ES300, which apparently has an entirely different key process. 2002-2005 have no master key. As such, you cannot repeat a program. Apparently on the 2000 ES300, the master key has the vehicle's program and you can copy the program to another key from that.

    On the 2002, you cannot do that. If you need to reprogram your key, you have to take all of your keys to the dealer and get them (and the engine) programmed. "All keys" includes all of your keyless entry keys, your valet key and the credit card key. It does not cost anywhere near $1500.

    Let's say you lose one of your keys on the 2002-2005 ES, and you order a new one to replace it. There is no way that the new one can be programmed with your old program. You have to reprogram them all with a new program to get all their programs to match.
  • shocasershocaser Posts: 36
    I own a 2004 ES-330. I have now owned it for 1 year, with 12,000 miles driven. I have been told that the stench from the engine is generated by the brand of gas that I use. I have been told that the whining that the power steering makes in the morning is because "the car needs to warm up first." I have had rattles fixed for the windshield wiper assembly and for the driver's seat (twice). I have had the driver's seat replaced because the power seat memory did not work properly (did not fix the problem). I have not been able to get the power seat memory problem fixed. I have had the firmware upgrade. I have had some of the wood trim replaced on one of the rear doors, since my car has blackwood trim and one door had redwood trim. I am now having problems with my center console. The lid will not stay shut, so I guess the car goes in yet again for more fixes. I have had this car in the shop more in the first year of ownership than my 1994 SHO was in the shop in the first five years of ownership. I cannot believe how disappointed I am in my "relentless pursuit of perfection."
  • alston28alston28 Posts: 97
    Has anyone heard of or used He says, basically, that he can put together my broken Lexus ES300 key for $65. Thanks.
  • es4jbes4jb Posts: 17
    Has anyone attempted to add XM Satellite radio to a 2005 ES? Well, I did. First, the dealer Customer Relations Manager had absolutely no idea what to do, who would do it, or how much it would cost. She sent me to the parts manager who proceeded to tell me that the cost to add XM is.....$1700.

    $1700????? Are they out of their mind? You can get this at any Good Guys or Best Buy for a few hundred bucks.

    My friend bought an Audi which came with XM "preinstalled". All he had to do was go on line and buy a subscription. When I bought this car, that's exactly what I thought I would have to do.

    The vehicle is supposedly "ready" for satellite radio. When I hear the words "ready for satellite radio" I take that to mean that the audio system has everything it needs except for the antenna/receiver and wiring to the unit.

    Apparently NOT. Lexus' definition of "ready for satellite radio" is that the "AM" button now says "AM-SAT". That's it.

    I did speak to a man at a place that specializes in car audio systems. He told me that there is some kind of part that is only available from Lexus that integrates the audio system with the satellite receiver. I guess this is comparable to the digital cable box attached to your TV.

    If anyone can shed some light on this, please chime in. Until then, no satellite radio for me.
  • I'm picking up my ES330 from Lexus of Maplewood in Maplewood, Minnesota. Got them to match the $500 over invoice that the Chicago dealers had. But I'm wondering what they are going to try to hit me up to buy at the end like the extended warranty, etc.

    What should I expect them to pitch me at the end? I've heard of folks mentioning the 'clear bra'.

    Also, I am semi-interested in the extended warranty since I'm planning on having the car for awhile. I know the price of the warranty is also negotiable. How much should I pay? What have others paid?

    I appreciate all the info I can get so I'm not going in blind.

  • Does anybody know if the base pioneer stereo is rated 86watts peak or rms?
    All the off the shelf pioneer car stereos are rated 50watts peak mosfet per channel (4 channels), regardless of the price and I was wondering how the base stereo matches up with these off the shelf ones.
    Thanks in advance.
  • scoti1scoti1 Posts: 676
    About the stench problem - Toyota/Lexus finally decided it was due to the catalytic converter and they have issued a TSB. I would have to look it up, but I am pretty sure it is covered for up to 100,000 miles.
  • joey_jjoey_j Posts: 2

    I have a es300 with 102,000 miles. How long can I count on my transmission? Is there a place where I can look up the average time/mileage before I it typically needs replacement?

    Love the car - nothing is as quiet and comfortable.

  • joey_jjoey_j Posts: 2
    How do I find such a locksmith in the New York City area?

  • olddaveolddave Posts: 21
    I have a 2005 ES 330 which so far seems like a really nice car. But one thing is driving me nuts! I cannot hear the turn signals "click" when I use them while driving on the highway or in busy traffic. It almost becomes a safety hazard, with me rolling along, completely unaware that my turn signal is blinking, because I can't hear the "clicker". I have owned all domestic cars in the past, and they seem to "click" just fine ('98 Tahoe, '94 Concorde).
    I have talked to my local friendly Lexus dealer about it - they were no help. I get the impression that they think it is hysterically funny that I am complaining about it.
    Is it just me, or does anyone else have a simliar problem???
    Okay, so maybe I am a whiner.....
  • atoewsatoews Posts: 637
    Well, I think Toyota needs to allow the driver to set the signal level. I believe that as we get older, our ability to hear high frequency signals diminishes, and it happens earlier for men than for women. I think the same thing happens with engine ping, also high frequency. My boyfriend is 60, and he often leaves his signal on because he cannot hear it. Most Lexus sales people that I have seen are significanly younger than 50, so maybe they think you are nuts because they hear the signal just fine.

    Along the same vein, I put lower octane gas in my car, in accordance with some suggestions on this website, and I swear I can hear engine ping on the low octane. Perhaps the reason so many posters find no problem with lower octane gas is that they no longer can hear engine "ping" because the frequency is so high!!!

    So, young people (lenscap :-)), please verify that you can hear the signal just fine!
  • I am currently looking into purchasing a 2002 pre-owned ES300 Lexus.

    1. 2002 ES300 37320 $25,959
    2. 2002 ES300 33513 $25,995
    3. " " 29695 $26,995
    4. # " 23668 $26,995
  • keith61keith61 Posts: 6

    Could anybody give me some advice on purchasing a certified pre-owned Lexus.
    I am looking at a 2004 ES 330 that is at the dealer with 16,000 miles and they are asking $29,900.

  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    LOL, that way one of the funniest posts I have seen, but it makes sense. Too many Rolling Stones concerts! :P
  • kreativkreativ Posts: 299
    "Does anybody know if the base pioneer stereo is rated 86watts peak or rms?"

    RMS. Before '02, the advertised wattage was peak (more impressive, but much less meaningful). They switched to advertising RMS wattage with the current generation ES.
  • liferulesliferules Posts: 531
    Does anyone know if Lexus can install Nav on a 2005 ES 330 aftermarket? My relative bought her car a few months ago without nav and has gotten lost already 4 times. I'd love to help them get nav if it can be installed...

  • sixfitzsixfitz Posts: 2
    I recently purchased the ES 330 in July'05 and had the XM installed. They told me the MSRP was $1075 but that thye could do it for $850. I like you was baffled by the price but we finally agreed on a price of $450. To boot the atenna they installed wsa "bad" and had to be reinstalled. My first thjought was doesn't anyone check these things before they sell it to a customer. The Acura TL not only comes standard with Xm but also gives you 3 months of service free. I will bet XM will be standard ont he 2007 model.
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