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Mercedes-Benz S-Class



  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,711
    Just about everyone knows that Princess Diana passed away while riding in an MB S-Class, a '95 S280. I am currently in London and have seen many examples of S280s all within the span of two weeks. What I don't understand is why Benz chose not to bring that particular model to the U.S. I would have loved to see how that relatively small 6-cylinder engine, in that big W140 body, could handle American driving conditions. I bet it would have performed beautifully.
  • Princess Diana passed away while riding in an MB S-Class. However, it was a S600. The S-Class with a v12.
  • Actually, Princess Diana was in an S280. It was widely publicized in Europe the model she was in. I am not sure if it was a long or short wheelbase model though...
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Just curious......did they ever determine at what speed the car was traveling when it crashed?

  • Interested in pros and cons on '99 S500. Looking at one with 13,400 miles and in mint condition. Would be trading in a '99 Jag Vanden Plas. Also, is true that the S500 operates best on Mobil 1 synthetic oil? Any info appreciated.
  • Merc1,

    I seem to remember that the French police estimated that it entered the overpass tunnel at approximately 70mph - 75mph. It actually crashed into the wall a short distance after entry considering the entry speed.
  • boo20boo20 Posts: 85
    I don't know when the FSS was introduced in the S class (it is present in the '99 SL). All MBs with FSS (flexible service system) need to use synthetic oil. I think that only AMG engines specifically recommend Mobil 1. The dealer where I have my cars serviced uses Castrol syntec. This is another recommended oil for MBs with FSS.
  • pathdocpathdoc Posts: 126
    I purchased a 99 S 500 a little over 2 years ago. It had approx 14000 miles and had been used by the sales manager's wife. I paid $56000 but that included negotiations for a trade in on my 93 S 500 for which I got a reasonable amount. I have a XKR convertible as my everyday car and use the Mercedes when I need the space. Since 1999 was the last year of that model I felt it was going to be reliable and it has been. In a couple of years I will probably consider a 2003 or newer S500 when they get the bugs worked out.
  • i got a call from the dealership, my SL55 has been fixed! i am so excited. i am going tomorow to inspect and drive the baby home.

    sorry, but I am too happy at the news.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Speaking of which, MB has released the video from this year's AMG Challenge:

  • i_drivei_drive Posts: 35
    i know that generally, is not that accurate. but after finding these pictures of camoflauged protoypes of the new 2005 S-Class:

    they look awfully similar to the pictures that autospies had.
    they claimed that they saw the car in person and had several photos.

    i hope that autospies isn't correct, because that car looks just the same as the current S-Class!
  • khans1khans1 Posts: 1
    1995 s420. The asr light came on in the middle of the road. I limped it home and took it for service. They 1st replaced the wiring harness for the accuator. Then the engine wiring harness. Then the air mass meter. Still not running right so they are thinking its the whole control module thats bad. Could that be? I would appreciate any help on this. I'm in dire straights over this. Help.
  • I'm looking at buying a one-owner 2000 S500 from a local guy. Great looking car, 29,000 miles and very good service history. It doesn;t have the rear sun-shade or integrated phone but its got most everything else. He's asking $45,000. I've done some research and this seems below most others on the market? Any thoughts on a what a good price is? thanks.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Hey are you still out there? What happened with your S430?

  • jstylejstyle Posts: 129
    AutoBild has a CGI photo of the new S Class developed by spy photos and they claim inside sources. Take a look.
  • I haven't been in such a good mood lately---
    my parents, and my best friend's house (known him since we were less than 1 year old)caught on fire during the fire-storm we had here in San Diego about 2 weeks ago. burn't to the ground. my parents forunately, recovered some valuable and personal belongings (including their wedding ring and pictures of their children (and me) when we were young. although they were reconsidering about rebuilding their house, i have decided that they should just move into ours. what a shame.

    unfortunately, not the same to my friends house (Jason). he lost absolutely everything, including his beloved, recently-fully-restored Mini Cooper from '67, i believe. saw pictures of the car, and his now burnt lot. it is really emotional to see.

    well, my a highly special object that my parents lost during the fire was their cherished '85 Mercedes 500SL. beautiful, in perfect condition.
    i have determined to replace their MB with a new SL500.

    as for Jason, he lost EVERYTHING except for his family (they are safe), and clothing. they had no time to retrieve anything as they were evacuated early in the morning.
    some close buddies have decided to pitch in a purchase a new 2004 Mini Cooper for him. Red in color, just like his old one.

    well, on the brighter side, our S430 is doing fine, although it seems to have a brain of it's own: the seat mysteriously adjusts itself by it self; when I leave in the day before, and come in the next day in the morning in the garage; either the headrest is fully up or the seat is all the way to the front. i don't understand this because i thought that the seat's don't have power if the ignition is out, and no one enters the garage at night... who knows- i hope one day, i don't find out that the car backed itself out of the garage one day!

    as for the SL; she's a beauty!
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Sorry for your losses, though it's good to hear that no one got hurt and that everyone is safe. I had at least realtive to loose everything in a fire and I couldn't imagine what that must be like. Hope everything returns to normal soon, take care.

  • Can anyone direct me to an after market parts store that sells Mercedes Benz wood grain gear shift knobs and other Mercedes Benz parts
  • profvhprofvh Posts: 31
    One that I have used and liked is Performance
    Products. (
    Fax: 1-800-752-6196. Phone for Catalog:
    1-800-752-6056. Address: Performance Products,
    PO Box 7257, Van Nuys, CA 92409-7257.

    They have an 84 page catalog that offers every
    thing you would want for a Mercedes.
  • I'm thinking of buying a new S430.Can any of you knowledgable souls tell me whether I can expect to get a deal similar to Lexus LS430 (about 3k over invoice) or should I expect to pay msrp? Thanks.
  • Hey Niceputt,
    Where do you live?. In Los Angeles you should be able to get an 04 from 500-1000 over invoice, and an 03 (if you can find one ) for 2000-3000 under invoice. Let me know if you need more help.
  • Help! Before we go and buy this car (tonight/Friday), the dealer is quoting "invoice" of 90K for the following S500 (new): Sport package,parktronic, keyless go, rear-side blinds, wood trims, navigation, e-trunk closer, tire-pressure monitoring! Does that sound right to any of you experts? The color is Black opal/stone interior -it's a beautiful looking car (& my husband will not buy a Lexus...)but the cost, for a 2003, still seems high to me. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!! Jamie
  • Jamie,
    The car should invoice for about $86,700 and then there is 4,000 in dealer cash and about 2,700 in hold back. The dealer is in this car for about $80,000. The 04's are out. I would offer about 82,700 and go as high as $83,700, then walk. You should be able to buy the same car as a 04 for about $88,000 and it will be worth atleast 5,000 more wholesale trade in three years from now. Good luck, and enjoy your new S. It is a great car.
  • When I purchase my 2001 E320, I gleaned from this site the name of a person that was cutting good deals on the MB Extended Warranty. I've sold the E320 and am purchasing a new S430. I can't find the Warranty person's name. I think it was a Lisa somebody. Anybody out there can help?
  • I just recently put a deposit on a 2000 S-430 and wondered if I negotiated a good price? I was able to purchase this car for $36K. It's a pretty standard S-430 w/ Navigation, CD Changer, Heated Seats, Moonroof, etc. Color is Black Almadine w/ Tan. Has 56,400 miles, and was locally owned/leased.
  • I have been considering a 2004 S600 and would love to hear likes/dislikes from any current generation S600 owners.

    Thank you.
  • How much should I take for my S-500? I have an black/black 2001 S-500 with 32,000 miles. It also has the Sport package, ventilated seats, and other options. 01' list price was $92,000.
    It also has a new set of Bridgestone Potenza S-3's. Any idea as to what I should be willing to take if I sold it outright or took it to a dealer for trade?
    Thanks, Ed
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Ed, while you wait for some thoughts here you might want to drop by our Real-World Trade-In Values discussion and ask Terry (rroyce10). Take a few minutes to read some messages there so you understand what information you need to provide in order for him to help.

    Good luck!
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I don't have one - (very much interested in having one someday though), but I have lots of clients who do, and the ones with the S600 seem to have lots of complaints. Not so much so on the S500 and S430 - they seem to be fine.
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