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Mazda MPV



  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    My sales person just sent me another email reassuring me if a trucker's strike does happen, it won't effect the delivery of our van. He said all of their vehicles ship directly from the port facility to Denver (which is where their dealership is located). I guess we'll find out.
  • kgnw1kgnw1 Posts: 94
    The Teamsters Car Haulers union reached a tenative agreement tonight.

    5/31/2003 - Teamsters Reach Tentative Pacts with Carhaul Carriers
  • cw11cw11 Posts: 12
    Sent an e-mail on Friday to the internet manager of ADZAM Mazda in Bedford NY with an offer of invoice+ tax+ plate- $2000 dealer cash- $500 college graduate discount for the MPV LX. The sales calls back right away saying no problem, just come over. Went to the dealer the next day, the internet manager told us it would be $500 more if we want them to get us a MPV from elsewhere (with options we want). We said no, we will stick with whatever inventory they have. Picked a MPV LX in the lot, sat down with the sales, and he gave us a quote of $500 over our agreement, and explained that it's the profit the dealer has to make. We stood up and walk out. Before reaching the front door, he ran back and said $200 over, we just got into our car and left.

    Isn't it the purpose of doing business over the internet to make everybody's life simpler? IF the dealer wants the profit, say it up front. Then we will just pick one who offers the most competitive price and close a deal with them. God I hate it when the dealer pull the dirty trick at the last minute of the deal. Good thing this experience was relatively short in terms of time and driving distance for us. I am posting our experience here and send a link to Adzam's internet sales manager. Mr. Manager, I hope you enjoy your profit more than your reputation, because the reputation is something you won't have on this discussion board.
    Lesson learn: Never hurt to double or triple check your deal, and get it in writing.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    It's good to know the trucker's strike has been avoided. That's one less brick wall standing in the way of the delivery of our van. We still have the other brick walls however. It was scheduled for shipment from the factory on 5/30/03. Does it really take 4 weeks to go from the factory to the port facility? Thems some slow ships! Then am I still looking at another 2 weeks at the port facility? They must operate like the government; they'll get to it when they get to it.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    These aren't hydrofoil speedboats we're talking about here. Also, as was explained earlier, they don't just set sail when your MPV comes out of the factory. They wait for a few thousand more to join it. So if you were really unlucky and the last ship sailed off the day before your van was built, it might have to sit awhile waiting for its buddies. As they say in Star Wars, "Patience, my young Jedi." At this point there isn't a thing you can do to hasten your van's journey, and fretting about it will only make you feel worse, so my advice is, put it out of your mind and find something else to do while you are waiting--like go out and enjoy the spring weather. If you have to worry about it, do something constructive like come up with a contingency plan in case your van doesn't arrive before the lease is up on your old one.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    I already have a contingency plan, it's called asking the dealer for a loaner until our van arrives.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Then I guess there will be a big, embarrassing scene taking place smack in the middle of their showroom floor! They'd be much better off just giving me a loaner.
  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    On the MPV, if my rolldown windows in the sliding door are down (meaning: window is open), does the power sliding doors operate ??

    There was an interesting observation on the 04 Sienna board. With an open window and a hand/head peeking out, if the power sliding door is operable (and accidently activated) we got a disaster in waiting !!!

    In the 04 Sienna, it seems that the power slider will NOT operate when the windows are lowered. Anybody tried this on the MPV (with extreme caution, of course !!)
  • bctnjbctnj Posts: 5
    Since we were also getting tired of waiting for our van. So I got from the dealer a copy of their assignments/inventory report or you can look at the Mazda dealership online inventory. The van that we ordered is not built yet so I looked for a vehicle that is similarly optioned with the vehicle we ordered. Luckily, there is one vehicle that has all the options we ordered except for the DVD system and with a different color (which was our second choice) and already at the port. I called Mazda customer service if they can add the DVD system. The DVD system is a port installed option so they were able to accommodate my request.
  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    What exactly is "port-installed" options ? Is this same as "dealer-installed" ? If not, who does the installation ?
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030

    Who pays for a loaner when a customer has to leave their vehicle at the dealership for warranty maintenance? I know it isn't the dealership's, or the salesman's fault our van isn't going to arrive when they said it would, but it isn't our fault either. And since my wife and I both work, having one vehicle isn't going to cut the mustard. I explained our lease vehicle situation with our salesman before we ordered the MPV, and he said it would arrive long before we would have to turn in my wifes car. Now it doesn't look like that's going to happen.


    How can I find out what MPV's are at the port facility right now? Maybe I could find one similar to the one I ordered already there and just have them install the DVD system. As far as I know, having the DVD installed is the only reason our MPV will need to stay at the PF once it arrives. Please give all your sources so I can make these contacts. Thanks.
  • vrmvrm Posts: 308
    I am planning to buy a new MPV LX minivan. I live in Northern Virginia.

    I would appreciate feedback if you got a good deal from a dealer in Virginia/Maryland. I am willing to drive in a 50 mile radius from Faifax county. Thanks!
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    I just contacted my salesman to ask if he could find out how the MPV's currently located at the port facility are equipped, and if they have one similarly equipped to the one we ordered, maybe we could just have them install a DVD system in that van and ship it to the dealership I'm going through. As a second option, I suggested that if it gets to be the 1st or 2nd week of July and it looks like our van isn't going to arrive in time, my salesman could do another dealer search (nationwide, if need be) to see if he could locate a similarly equipped MPV at another dealership. I'd be willing to hop on a plane, train, or bus to go get it. It's either one of these options, or a loaner, 'cause we can't live with one vehicle until our MPV comes in. It isn't like I'm not trying to work with these guys, I'm even making several suggestions.
  • bctnjbctnj Posts: 5
    The dealership where ordered should able to give this information, they have eta date of the vehicles that are arriving. Another option is to contact Mazda at their 1-800-222-5500 and explain your situation and ask them if they can locate a vehicle within your region (with or w/o the DVD). Their customer service people were very helpful.
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    Yes, the door will still open if the window is down. Frankly, I don't see how it can be a danger. You should be able to keep a window opened when the car is off and still open the door. I would find the Toyota feature annoying. My kids are forever forgetting to roll up the windows and I have to turn turn the key in order for them to roll them up. With the Toyota feature, they can't even get out of the car if the window is down?? Yuck!

    The door moves so slowly and once the button is pressed again, the door stops. I have actually gotten caught in the door and it stopped. Now if the van is out of Park, the doors won't open.

    Now I'm gonna cause trouble. If a small child is out of his/her car seat or booster and has their head hanging out the window and presses the door button, isn't it more likely that the child is not being supervised? Again, the car would have to be in Park in order for this to happen. Once in drive, the doors don't operate. There are warnings plastered all over my MPV regarding young children and the auto sliders. You can also shut the auto slider option off and use the doors manually.

    My kids are older so I don't really see the problem. I also never allow my children to play in a parked car. I think that's were the true problem could come in. Just my 2 cents worth.

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    I have been in contact with my dealership and the folks at Mazda, neither can give me a delivery date yet. However, I'm thinking your idea of finding out how the MPV's at the port facility are equipped is a very good one. If you think about it, every MPV that comes into the US goes to the PF. There has got to be literally thousands of them there at any given time. You'd certainly think there'd be at least a few there with the options we want. Then it would just be a matter of them installing the DVD system and shipping it to my dealer. The only problem I can foresee with this process is that sounds tedious and time consuming, which makes me think I may run into a problem convincing my salesman to do it. If I can, we might be able to get an MPV yet this month.
  • owr084owr084 Posts: 46
    VRM -

    I bought mine a year ago from Brown's Fairfax Mazda. I went in with a firm price on an ES and stuck to it. After 5 give and take sessions, I got my price.

    Pick a dealer that is closest to you and has has the best service department. It is a drag trying to get service at a place other than where you bought it. And when you need leverage with service, you can always go back to the salesman you worked with.

    once you settle on a dealer, go to and search all the other dealers in the are for the one you want. If the dealer is good, they can trade another dealer for the one you want. I ended up having Brown's trade a dealer in Gaithersburg for my van. If you cannot find your "van" at Mazdusa, then change the search zip code to somewhere further up North in Maryland and you will see more dealers and choices.

    Finally, be prepared - know all the invoice prices, taxes, etc. before you walk in the door.

  • vickie5vickie5 Posts: 12
    I've had my MPV ES for a little over a week and just love it. Took it to the window tint-er on Saturday because the factory tint on the driver/passenger windows weren't as as dark as I like. That CA sun really beats down on you in the summer.

    I'm standing in the parking lot and what pulls in right behind me? A new 04 Sienna LE 8 psgr. Before I decided on my MPV I also considered the Sienna. They both ended in the shop garage at the same time. This really gave me and the shop owners a chance to look at them side by side. The guy told me he paid $28K with tax and license out the door. I paid $26.5K out the door. So who got the better deal?

    My impressions of these vans.

    The Mazda - sporty looking.
    The Sienna - The "family van" look.

    I didn't like the look of the front or back end of the sienna. The Sienna's disappearing back window gives you those nasty parallel parking blind spots, HUGE problem in the CRV. I like the wider wheelbase on the Sienna. Sienna a much longer van and due to the wide wheelbase very roomy on the inside. For a large family maybe a Sienna. For me and my K9 the MPV is the perfect size.

    Being a woman I LOVE to accessorize. The MPV has the Sienna beat HANDS DOWN in this catagory.

    Mazda - 17" Alloy Wheels
    Sienna - 16" Cheap Plastic Wheels. When I say cheap I mean cheap!

    Mazda - Sunroof
    Sienna - no sunroof

    Mazda - Electric Seat
    Sienna - Manual

    Mazda - Electric sliding door
    Sienna - Manual Sliders

    MAzda - Side airbags
    Sienna - No side airbags

    Mazda - No luggage rack
    Sienna - Luggage rack

    Mazda - leather interior
    Sienna - Cloth interior

    Mazda 7 psgr
    Toyota 8 psgr

    Mazda - 4 Seasons package w/ rear air
    Sienna - Rear air

    Mazda - leather steering wheel
    Sienna - no leather steering wheel

    Mazda - factory tint
    Sienna - no factory tint

    Mazda - no cassette player
    Sienna - Cassette player. The cassette I can live without.

    Mazda - Traction control
    Toyota - Didn't look like it

    I didn't see any extra buttons on the dash in the Sienna so I'm guessing there wasn't anything else with the exception of cruise, electric doors, locks yada yada.

    My goodness after all that comparison an MPV owner would almost feel like they were ripped off!! Wanna guess as to who got more bang for their buck? Sienna WAY overpriced and skimpy on the goodies unless you want to spend $31K MSRP. Thanks but no thanks. I'm VERY happy I decided on the MPV.
  • scott31scott31 Posts: 292
    Don't go to Brown's Fairfax Mazda, they treated me like crap.

    Brown's Alexandria Mazda was the complete opposite. They drove all the way out to NJ to get the van we wanted. We paid S-Plan pricing, plus, they gave us a great deal on our trade.

    I dealt with Mike Johnson.
  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    Only if the MPV had a split rear bench, I would jump at it in a heartbeat !!! That combined with the disappearing mode would be awesome :-)

    Does anyone know if Mazda plans to change the rear seat design in the future ??
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    bottgers.....service loaners are paid by mazda but they require the vin number of the car getting serviced and an authorized warranty claim to pay the dealership for the use of the loaner....the other concern I have about you switching to a locate vehicle....the dealership may not want to do it because you MPV is not exactly what a dealer would want on the lot...that is why they couldnt locate one before.

    Email me your vin #
  • steveeaststeveeast Posts: 158
    Can someone with the factory installed hitch tell what what the ITOH (inside top of hitch) height is, please? I'd like to know whether I'm going to need yet another different height of ball-mount.

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Actually my salesman already said they would do a dealer search if I choose to go that route. However, right now I think the best method would be to find out what's at the port facility. There must be literally thousands of MPV's there at any given time. I'd say the chances of finding one, or even several equipped with the options we want have to be pretty good. Then it's just a matter of them installing the DVD system and shipping it to our dealership. Using this method we could have our MPV, equipped exactly the way we ordered it, within 2 weeks, and without the additional costs involved in getting one from another dealer. I emailed my VIN to you.
  • vrmvrm Posts: 308
    What is S-plan pricing? Will I be able to get this pricing?

  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    Please refer back a few pages and you will find more info. Basically, if you work for a company which provides services to Ford Motor Company, since Ford owns a stake in Mazda Corp, you will get special S-plan pricing. It is about 4.85% more than the price given to Mazda employees. I think it boils down to near invoice price and the dealer is required to show you a copy of how much the vehicle actually costs them. Basically, you get the dealer asking price down without haggling. Additionally, you will get any rebates/discounts in effect at the time.
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    I have 16 inch tires. Hitch is 13.25 inches above the floor of garage...
    Measured to top edge of hitch... 12.75 inches measured to top of the plug in bar that holds the ball.. The receiver hole is 1.28 inches or 32.5 mm square.
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    What acedriver said is correct. Under the S-Plan you purchase the vehicle for under dealer invoice. Mine was $100 under dealer invoice plus I got $2,000.00 cash back.

  • steveeaststeveeast Posts: 158
    Thanks for the hitch height info. One of my collection of ball-mounts will fit nicely.

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    When I spoke to Natalie at the Mazda customer service center last week, she said my MPV was scheduled for shipment from the factory on 5/30/03. Audia8q did some research on my van today and said it hasn't even left the factory yet. I still haven't found out if my dealer is willing or able to see if we can get one from the port facility, and the chances of finding one at another dealer optioned the way we want it are slim, not to mention the additional transportation cost. Having a deadline makes this whole process very frustrating and nerve racking for me. If I had an unlimited amount of time to wait I wouldn't be concerned about any of this stuff. This is the second time I've ordered a new vehicle, and the second time I've had to wait far beyond the delivery timeframe I was initially given. Just once it would be nice if one of the vehicles I order arrived when I was told it would.
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