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Mazda MPV



  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    These are some of the other problems I'm having that I haven't mentioned. The AM portion of the radio doesn't work. If I press "seek" while it's on AM, it just continuously cycles through the frequency bands, never stopping on any stations. I've even tried manually tuning in stations, but it won't pick up anything. Also, the interior light in the rear door only works about 1/3 of the time. I'm telling you, our MPV is infested with mechanical gremlins! I'm just going to make a list of everything that's wrong and have the dealer fix them all at once.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    per the '02 Owners Manual states on page 8-4:

    "Replace once a year or every 12,000 miles"

    The engine air filter is due to replace every 12,000 or 18,000, depending on which schedule you're on (based on your driving habits).

  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    Hummmmm, Engine timing causing the tranny to shift hard.. Give this shop the " Best Lie of the Year" award. I would try another dealer shop if it is under warranty.... In case they actually believe what they said.... (snicker)

    Air Filters: Yeah, I have the engine air filter replaced once a year regardless of milage (before our annual trip to Wisconsin).

     bottgers: If the FM part of radio is good then problem is bad radio(replace). If both radios are bad than probably antenna wire is disconnected or broken.. The scan isn't finding any stations to stop at. The rear lite could be a bad bulb..

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    .........related to one of my old girlfriends who thought her brake lights stopped working because her car was low on brake fluid.
  • lumbarlumbar Posts: 421
    I'm inclined to agree that it's a lot now, but IF you trade/sell in 3-4 years, some of that will be recouped in depreciation.

    Depending on one's immediate needs, I suspect that the best of both worlds will be an '04 in about 6 mos-8 mos.

    From at least the perspective of the ES, aren't there also items that are standard on the '04's that were formerly options?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    I don't know about the ES, but one of the biggest additions to the LX standard equipment is rear A/C, which helps justify the price increase of the '04s.

    There might be an advantage in 3-4 years to selling a high-mileage '04 vs. a low-mileage '03, but I wonder if it will be $2000. I agree that within 6-8 months or so, we'll see incentives on the '04s close to those of the '03s. Part of that will be due to increased competition from the '05 DC vans, due early in '04, and then by fall the next-gen Odyssey.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Posts: 278
    Has anyone noticed the distinct difference in volume if you go from AM to FM on the MPV tuner?
    Mine is like 4 'dashes' higher on FM than when I switch to AM! I brought it into the dealer last spring and he said it was the eternal NORMAL! When I switch from AM to FM, I need to turn the radio down about 4 DASHES to get it back to a normal listening level. Going from FM to AM; I have to turn it up 4 dashes to hear it at all!!!
    Geez, everything wrong with this unit is NORMAL!
    Tranny clunks, hesitation at starting up of engine, smells, crazy volume levels between AM and FM, what next?
    Oh that's right, the lab guys are working on the fix to get rid of the NORMAL clunking in my tranny. Maybe by spring they'll have the answer!
  • lumbarlumbar Posts: 421
    Serious question--would you buy it if you had it to do over? Do the virtues/value ratio compensate for the issues you're having?

    I'm looking at one pretty seriously and it looks to me to be the best (small) van out there for the price, although all this tranny talk is bothering me. TIA
  • dwsmhadwsmha Posts: 35
    Bottgers, if I recall, you have the DVD player? Read the DVD manual, the DVD player must be off (or at least set to not broadcast through the van speakers) if you are going to listen to AM radio (if I recall correctly). Kinda weird setup.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    I'll give it a try and see what happens. Thanks.
  • Having read up on the shifting problem in this forum before purchasing, I test drove the specific vehicle I purchased and it seemed to shift smoothly. However, over a period of several days the hard shift problem manifested itself 5 times. It happens only when the engine is warm and I am accelerating slowly away from a complete stop. The engine revs and then slams into the next gear.

    Having gone back to the dealer, I was told that I should adjust my driving style and this was normal. I called Mazda customer service while at the dealership and also taked to Ira's general manager. A Mazda corp. service rep will now look at the car. The attitude I'm getting is that unless they can reproduce the problem it doesn't exit.

    I would suggest prospective buyers hold off purchase until this issue is decisively resolved. It is a hassle I certainly could do without.
  • I got my MPV back from service. They said they adjusted the linkage and that should take care of it. We will see, have not had time to take it too far to test yet but that is where I am right not. I told them if this 2004 is not absolutely perfect I am bringing it back. They have been good to me about it, I am just one of those non-trusting people. I will keep you all informed.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Posts: 278
    I was told that the techies at Mazda Labs are working on the computer fix. There will be NO BULLETIN! It will be up to us to keep in touch with dealers over the next month or so. The previous 'fixes' have not worked...linkages, etc. don't fix it! It's in the computer module.
    If you just gun it from a start, it's's when you ease into the start (and try to save gas) that it bucks after 1st gear.

    My Tuner is AM, FM, CD, Cass, in dash deal. No DVD and the volume is very different when I go between AM and FM. From AM to FM, it blows me away. From FM to AM, I can't hear the radio. NEVER had this problem with any other vehicles; GM, Chrys., Toys. What gives?! Evidently, I'm the only one whoever hits the AM button while on FM to jump over???
  • bill124bill124 Posts: 242
    On the LX you said $5,000 off. I presume you meant off sticker, not invoice?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    Correct, $5000 off MSRP, including rebates. That was from a "no-haggle" dealer. Of course, it's a better deal on a base LX than on a loaded ES.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    That was exactly the problem with the radio. The DVD player was selected to play through the van's audio system. As soon as I switched it off, the AM portion of the radio started working. Thanks for the advice.
  • bill124bill124 Posts: 242
    I signed this weekend for a loaded 2003 ES, silver, with $3,000 off of invoice (and I saw the invoice and it ties into Edmund's numbers). He said 2500 rebate and 500 dealer cash. Sticker is like 30150 for moonroof, power doors, security, four seasons, 6CD and roof rack. I really wanted GFX but too late for that. I pick it up this weekend. Deals are there to be had. Also got full book for 2000 White LX (with lots of extras). All in all, a good deal. With 4 year warranty, I'll keep this for four years and by then hopefully kids will be big enough so I don't need minivan.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Didn't someone say the MPV had a learning tranny or computer in it? My wife is the primary driver of our van and she said she's never had it do the shifting thing for her. It only does it when I'm driving. Could it have something to do with the computer's learning function when its trying to learn a different driver?
  • If it's anything to do with the learning function the it's a slow learner. My wife drives the van once a week on a Sunday. I drive it the rest of the time and get the flare whether it's Monday or Saturday. One thing I have noticed recently is that it's more prevalent when I start doing stop/start driving after a long high-speed run.

    Just gotta keep waiting for the Mazda folks to figure it all out...

  • "One thing I have noticed recently is that it's more prevalent when I start doing stop/start driving after a long high-speed run."

    That's exactly what happens to me. I do mostly stop-start driving, but have one semi-long highway stretch to go pick up my daughter after school. Then when I go back to stop-start, I am more likely to have the shifting problem.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Maybe someone with the problem could try reseting their ECU to erase the 'learned' behavior and start out fresh with the default programming. IIRC, with a cold engine you disconnect the battery, step on the brake to further remove any residual power in the system, reconnect the battery, and then start the engine - letting it idle until warm.

    Worth a try? Anyone, anyone? ;-)

  • My TCM has been reset a whole bunch of times, including being being reflashed and replaced. No joy.

  • I got word from the dealer, and an email from mazda, also talked to them on the phone today. They are now aware of the problem and are trying to come up with a fix for it. They have no timeline at this time. My car dealer said they hope to hear something soon. The dealership has been very good to me so far, I am still mad at mazda. If they make this right I will endorse them, if not I will let everyone know about my troubles and word of mouth can either help or hurt. I have heard that this is not a widespread problem, just for those unlucky few like me.
  • pjgptpjgpt Posts: 15
    I just finalized the purchase of a 2003 LX (shimmering sand metalic)with rear a/c, 4 seasons pckg, DVD, rear bumper step plate, traction ctrl, side airbags and roof rack for a total cost of:

       $24,189 Invoice
    - $500 Customer Cash
    + $2,072 Tax (8.75%)
    - $2,500 Dealer Cash
        $23,261 FINAL COST

    I was able to use the S Plan pricing (saved me maybe $200, I checked around to see if I could negotiate a better price without it) from my wifes job and also received $500 dealer cash and $2500 customer cash.

    I did have to settle for no power doors and my second choice of color, but feel that the savings was worth it.

    So, the point I'm trying to make is that there are definitely some good deals out there on 2003s, but you may have to start making some compromises on your wants.

    Also, as suggested by Edmunds, look for your own financing. I was able to get 4.09 in 30 minutes rather than the 5 to 6% the dealer was quoting.

    Good Luck!!
  • Could you please post the text of the email you got from Mazda. I am meeting a Mazda factory service rep next week and would like to have that to show him.

  • pb17pb17 Posts: 33
    Is it me or does anyone else find the seats very firm on the mpv's? I'm seriously considering an mpv but the seats are much harder than my current Dodge Caravan. Has anyone found a fix for this? Are the leather seats softer than the fabric?
  • I just got my 04 and the seats are a bit firmer than the camry I traded. Doesn't bother me though, of course I have not done 2 hr plus trips though. Mostly in/out town driving. If it gets to be a problem I will just buy seat covers. It will still be an awesome vehicle once they fix that one little issue I have
  • What is the service rep? Is that a higher official than than the service tech locally. Let me see if I would get in trouble for posting the email, I don't think I will get in trouble, but don't want to do anything illegal. Isn't an email like posting a bulletine?
  • Service rep is from Mazda corporate.

    Why should you get into trouble sharing factual information from Mazda? It can only help everyone and make sure that Mazda plays it staight and consistent.

    By the way, Mazda also benefits from customers who provide feedback-- the more data they have the faster they can resolve this.

    The problem for both consumers and the Mazda engineers is distortion in the flow of communications.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    S-Plan pricing saves a lot more than $200. Try more like $2000. I know for a fact my '03 LX would've cost me at least another $2000 without S-Plan pricing.
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