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  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    alot depends on your driving habits, your weather and the demands you put on your car. But an oil change is a very cheap way to keep an engine healthy for the long haul. I think this has been proven over and over. Some people want to debate it, but after working in the auto biz for over 20 seems to be a pattern that has consistently shown to be successful.

    We are not talking alot of money, $50-100 per year extra maybe??? even less if you do it yourself. Seems like a cheap investment to me.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    at the dealer, since I needed to get the recall work on my '02 done. The service tech chastised me a bit when I insisted on using the Mobil 1 5w 30 I brought in for the job(that's for racing cars, and high rev high torque use and it is not the recommended grade for the MPV, etc.). Anyone know of any downside to using this grade/quality of oil? I believe it quiets the lifters down on startup vs 20W, and I also run it for 7,500 miles between changes so I don't have to get under the car too often.

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    There seems to be a long standing debate going on in the forum about these two viscosities. From what I can tell it basically comes down to this; the 5W-30 guys prefer the 30 weight simply because its higher viscosity gives them some kind of a warm fuzzy, and they feel more comfortable using it because they've used it for years without experiencing any ill affects. The 5W-20 guys tend to prefer the 20 weight because generally speaking, they're showing better UOA numbers than the 30 weights and they contain better base stocks.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    that states 5w-30 or 5w-20 is just fine for the -'02+ MPV 3.0L.

    Mobil-1 doesn't make a 5w-20, so 5w-30 it is for me as well.

  • catlady245catlady245 Posts: 19
    Hi all,

    Ever since last fall, I've been looking for a minivan. I test drove the Sienna-too large and drove like a marshmallow; the Quest-drove the best but way too big for my driving needs; the Dodge-drove ok but a little too big for my needs and afraid of the transmission problems and finally drove the MPV.

    Except for the Sienna, I drove all of them at dealers this early spring and still could not determine which van was to my liking.

    This past week my family took a vacation and rented a car through Hertz. When we arrived in the airport they gave us the wrong car and while my husband was sorting it out with Hertz, I saw some MPV's in the lot and convinced my husband to rent one.

    We drove the 2004 lx a week in Tampa Florida and boy was it an education on what van NOT TO BUY. First of all the shoulder harness in the passenger seat sliced my neck. I'm only 5 foot but the way the harness was designed it made it extremely uncomfortable to sit in the seat. The shifter lever was too long that was hard to operate the radio switch.

    The car rode like the Chevy Astro van, which had a stiff ride and it didn't handle well on I-4 from Tampa to Disneyworld. The ride was bumpy and stiff.

    When I arrived back home on Saturday and drove my Subaru OUtback from the airport home, the driving smoothness was like night and day compared to the MPV.

    One more thing, one buys a minivan because of the need to handle children in the rear seat. I found it my hard to get up and move to the rear from the front seat and I'm 5 foot and weight 130lbs.

    I would recommend anyone who isn't sure about a car to rent it for a week and I'll guarantee you will know the answer.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Long term test drives are always good - the usual problem is finding a test vehicle.

    btw, many shoulder harness seat belts are adjustable by several inches so you can roll the upper belt over your shoulder. That helps prevent the Van Gogh syndrome where the belt tries to cut your ear off.

    Maybe a MPV owner can confirm that they are height adjustable on the pillar?

    Steve, Host
  • catlady245catlady245 Posts: 19
    The shoulder harness is adjustable and I had it at the lowest position. Possibly an ES model with height adjustment on the seat would help since I only needed another half inch.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    I have a 2003 MPV LX that also has seat height adjustment (front and rear portion) knobs located left side of driver seat.
  • catlady245catlady245 Posts: 19
    bigdadi118- the shoulder harness that i was complaining about was the front passenger harness.

    when i drove, i was the passenger i had no seat height adjustment knob only a bar to move seat forward or backward.
  • owr084owr084 Posts: 46
    I'm betting that the ride was harsh due to the rental agency never checking the tire pressure. A lot of ride complaints about the MPV are simply due to the dealer never setting the correct tire pressure when they get them off the boat (it's something like 10+ pounds over spec).

  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    is the most accurate. Just a few bucks more. There's wind noise (highway speed) but actually is the tire noise since the pressure is way high.

    My wife is 4'11.5" tall and I wonder why she didn't complain re seat belt problem on passenger side.
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    I'd guess the harsh ride is more due to the type tire than overpressure. Our '03 LX came with 16" "H" rated tires and they are very harsh riding. I thought the same thing that the pressure had to be too high, but it was right on. I've come to the conclusion that these "H" rated tires are very harsh riding because of their stiff sidewalls. When these tires need to be replaced, I'll be doing so with some smooth riding touring tires. No more of these performance tires for me.
  • kolt1kolt1 Posts: 25
    Consumer Reports classifies the MPV's ride as jittery, and I would have to agree with them. Bottgers, how soon till you buy new tires? I would be very interested in what type and if they "settle" the ride at all. Have you considered going to a '65' profile as well. I've done the calculations, and they wouldn't be any larger than the 17" they put on the ES.
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    I run 35lbs and the ride is fine with the OEM tires (Dunlops). When the MPV is loaded the ride is better. Handling is excellent with these tires...

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Either you drive on some really smooth roads, or you're just used to a choppy riding vehicle because I certainly wouldn't describe the ride of our PeeVee as "fine." I would describe it more like bone jarring. The reason I believe it's the tires causing the choppy ride is because the suspension seems to handle the larger bumps, but it's the smaller ones, ones that don't get the suspension too involved that it seems to have trouble with. Bumps like the little seams between the pavement slabs. These types of bumps normally get soaked up by the tires......that is tires with sidewalls that aren't too stiff. I've noticed this type of a ride in any vehicle I've ever been in that's had "H" or higher speed rated tires. I'd be willing to bet a pay check that replacing the OEM "H" rated tires with a good set of all season touring tires would make a night and day difference in smoothing out the ride. Of course, you're going to give up a bit of the handling, but I don't spend much time canyon carving with ours. I'd rather have the smooth ride.
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    Yeah, I have heard all of that. When the OEM tires need changing then Michelin will be my choice. Otherwise, the OEMs are fine. All vans ride a bit stiffer than a sloppy Buick. That is because they carry heaver loads. I was surprised how well the OEM tires (Dunlops) perform. We loaded the MPV last summer (only space for DW and I) for Wisconsin and return and it ran great with a great ride (4K miles). Wind and rain performance was very good for the tires. I rotate and balance tires every 10K miles... The MPV is the best car we have ever owned.
    If the price was right I would buy another set of Dunlops....
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Heck, it doesn't even have to be a set of Michelins, I think any touring tire will ride better than these Dunlops. You might like them, but I hate them.
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  • johnfromncjohnfromnc Posts: 10
    We are a car donation program in Raleigh, NC. We place cars with people in need. We recently received a donation of a nice '95 MPV with 73,000 miles. It looks like it could be a great placement for a family with kids. The car generally starts and runs fine; very pleasant to drive. BUT . . . it will sometimes go through this cycle where first the radio cuts out, then the headlights dim, then the engine starts to stumble . . . and then it dies. A "jump" gets the car started in half a second. But once this starts, the car will go three blocks and the radio, light and other electrical failures will reappear. Last night, it took me about 15 jumps to go one mile.

    Here's the kicker: the alternator was just replaced, right before we got the car.

    Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated!

  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Man, this place has been dead lately. Where has everyone been?
  • bob57bob57 Posts: 302
    Getting second jobs to pay for gas.....
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  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,030
    Man, you aren't kidding there! The last time I filled up the PeeVee it cost me $31! This is getting ridiculous! It's a good thing our other vehicle is a Toyota Tercel. We've been using it as much as possible to avoid having to fill the PeeVee. There's only one good thing that may come about because of these high gas prices.....they might help me convince my wife I need a motorcycle.

    On a sidenote, hopefully Goerge W. will release our oil reserves to give us consumers some relief at the pumps for the summer.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    I am glad you used the word "HOPEFULLY"

    It is actually a dream come true if the reserves will be touched. Sitting on a pile of oil company stocks and singing the oil songs, retiring nicely after November big day.
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  • epondepond Posts: 13
    Hello all,
      Mazda made me happy when they dropped the
    3.0 liter engine in for 2003. Is their any
    chance that we could see a split folding
    third row bench in 2005? What do you say
    Mazda? Please!!!

  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    The 3.0 V6 was available (standard) in the '02 MPV as well.

    A split fold 3rd bench would be ideal, perhaps it would be easy enough to implement for the next MY. But, the '05 should be the last of the 'current' model, '06 should be new.

    You should go to and contact Mazda via email, as they likely do not monitor this forum.

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
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  • tgozdalski1tgozdalski1 Posts: 34
    Hello James,
    I think buying a motorcycle is a great idea. I commute to my work, 25 miles one way, for 4th consecutive year. I ride year round, South Texas, and put on my bike about 1100 miles a month. My bike is 2001 Kawasaki ZR-7S 750cc 'naked' bike. It's a great commuter bike, top speed is 130, accelerates to 60 in just over 4 seconds. The engine is older technology air/oil cooled 2v per cylinder unit. You can get one of these used in good condition for about $3,000. Driving minivan to work by myself seem like a waste to me, but then I grew up in Europe, when cost of owning vehicle is so much higher. Commuting on the bike will also allow me to extend warranty coverage on MPV -lower mileage
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