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Toyota Echo



  • libertycatlibertycat Posts: 593
    It is my favorite subcompact, the Kia Rio taking a close second.
  • I would not only agree that Echo is my favorite subcompact, I would go as far as to say Echo is my favorite car...period. I'd have to say the mini-cooper is my 2nd choice.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    I found out the steadily increasing pain in my shoulder is from two ruptured discs in my neck. It started with sitting up at the computer and now I cant ride my bicycle, motorcycle, or drive my 5 speed ECHO. Im driving my wifes Saturn, which has automatic. At least is much less painfull.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Is that Saturn an S or an L? If it's an S, I don't see how the pain would stop for you. Those are the most uncomfortable cars I ever sat in for me!

    Maybe it's time to trade for an auto Echo...
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    I nominate the current Honda Civic for most uncomfortable car. I got to test drive one (along with many other makes and models) at GM's Auto Show In Motion.

    I agree that perhaps an auto Echo is in order.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Its not that the car is comfortable or uncomfortable its just that I dont have to shift. I agree wholeheartedly that the Saturn is one uncomfortable car compared to the ECHO. The seats are unbelieveably bad but its bliss for me in my circumstances. When the Saturn goes its auto ECHO time for sure.
  • rajmoranrajmoran Posts: 46
    I still have it and I still love it. I'm up to 55,000 miles now with no problems of any kind to report. The ECHO is still in perfect mechanical and cosmetic shape, and carries me, my wife, and two small children quite capably. Commuting mileage seems to hover around 32, while long highway trips work out to about 40 MPG.

    For you motorcycle fans out there, I'm the recent purchaser of an '03 Honda RC51. It will suffice to say "Whoa."
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I have to agree about the Civic. I hated it when I just sat in it, and didn't fit anyway because I am 6'3 and rubbed the roof.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Be carefull with that sucker. Dont get carried away. A friend at work (who usually rides a Harley) was rding a cousins cbr6004f and wrapped it around a telephone pole breaking his shoulder. His helmet actually hit the pole a glancing blow. The cops said you couldnt even wheel the bike away it was so trashed!
  • rajmoranrajmoran Posts: 46
    As you probably know, riding a motorcycle will eventually make you careful or dead.

    Hey, does anyone here buy car parts online? Are there any good sites for that sort of thing?
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    Well, my roommate got a car yesterday and guess what? It is a 2003 automatic Toyota Echo. Gray in color, but otherwise a twin to my 2001 in terms of accessories.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    A buddy of mine has an 00 Echo with almost 60K miles on it now, automatic sedan in white. I had a chance to drive it from Baltimore to DC and back last Friday night. I have to say, it was smaller inside than I thought it would be. I am 6'3 though, so that might have had something to do with it. The seats hurt my lower back, but I think it was because I wasn't able to stretch my legs like I wanted to. Also, I kept hitting the 'OD off' button on the transmission shifter, very annoying.

    He definitely needs new front brake pads and a rotor machining, as the car starts shaking once you get it up to about 60mph. But 60K on front brakes (if the previous owner didn't replace them in the 36K they had the car) is pretty good I think.
  • mrowens42mrowens42 Posts: 15
    Local used car dealer (not Toyota)has 2003 Echo w/5000 miles.Pretty much base car but has air.Asking $9,800. Dealer's rep not the best,but could take it to local Toyota dealer and have it checked for $50.00. Opinions please.
  • I personally would not buy from that used car dealer. I'd prefer to buy a certified used Echo from an authorized Toyota dealer. I do not trust used car dealers and don't intend to in the future. That price seems awfully low for a used 2003, I'd be more suspicious than interested. Pay a little bit more and drive with peace of mind.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Well it would be under warranty. ask if you can contact the previous owner. sometimes people dont know the value of the used car. then again maybe its a lemon someone is dumping. i would buy it if i could contact the previous and he said it was ok. a possible opertunity to score a good deal here.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Im gettin' post 4000 while the gettin's good!
  • wrgrahamwrgraham Posts: 112
    I certainly agree with kneisl, I would want to contact the previous owner. If you don't feel confident in your communication with that owner, skip the car. Could be a good car with a shifty owner, and you miss it. But better safe than sorry. If all is well and the specs of the car are in line with what will work for you, then it sounds like a good opportunity. And that $50 you spend to have it mechanically checked is also well spent money, in my mind. (I think the Toyota shop would be glad to have you own the car, and be future business for them, perhaps.)
  • wrgrahamwrgraham Posts: 112
    Kneisl, what a rotten development to have disc problems in your neck. I had a problem with C6 due to standing on my head too much! All clear now. I think following some regular yoga routine would be good therapy. Not directly working on the cervical area, but getting the rest of your spine flexible and well oriented will bring benefits to the cervical portion also. Best wishes.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    ... with front-end shaking at speed? Sounds like he needs his tires balanced!

  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Yes my C6 is shot with a 6mm extrusion. And C5 is bulging. Doc says if he fuses them c5 could go in a few years and Ill need surgury all over again. At least its not as painfull as my lower back was four years ago...which healed.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Never thought about that. I am used to the shaking when braking and know that means rotors need replacing or resurfacing. I know he needs pads though, because the brakes feel less effective then they did the day I drove the car when he bought it (with 36K on it).

    He hits every bump in the road and isn't careful with the car, so no wonder it shakes and rattles like it does.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    I saw a few 2003 Phantom Gray Echos. They are nice looking in this color. Nice pick by your roommate, Major!
  • Just dropped off my 2000 Echo at the dealer - I think the left front CV joint is toast. 32,000 miles. Back in February, my wife complained about clicking - since the car was at 30,000 miles I dropped it off for a 30k check - $400! They said they couldn't find anything. Now it's nice grinding sound, they won't be able to miss it.

    They also say it will take them 9 days to get around to the car (Servco in Honolulu, Hawaii). Apparently broken Toyotas are stacked up so deep they can't see over the top. What's up with this quality reputation - major repairs at 30k miles? So many dead Toyotas they can't keep up?I bought the dang thing because of the reputation - maybe I made a mistake.

    Anyone else having CVs go?
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    If you complained of clicking the first time and the dealer couldnt find the problem they are incompetant or theres nothing wrong with the cv joints. Did you look at them and see a torn boot? A good way to keep them honest because some people will replace perfectly good boots! Its a little unusual for boots to go that soon, but it happens. Perhaps they were dammaged by debris. I always inspect my boots at every oil change, even though my ECHO has only 18k miles on it. If you catch it early you wont have a destroyed joint. I recently caught a torn boot on my daughters Camry and Toyota charged $400 to change them all. good luck and tell us what the dealer finds out!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    One of the ones I saw at Enteprise a couple weeks ago was the grey color. I like that, the blue color, and the dark and bright red colors the best.
  • Coolguyky7, that looks like the Spanish flag next to your sign-in name. Where in Esp. do you live? Are you an American living abroad?
  • So how do you peeps like your Echos? Any regrets? With my present car I could have bought 2 Echos w/ change to spare.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    I'm an American in the states. :-D I just like Spain.
  • pulgopulgo Posts: 400
    There's an excellent article about the Toyota Echo in todays local newspaper, The Vancouver Sun.
    If anyone is interested, send me an email and I'll send you the scanned article in PDF (Adobe Acrobat Reader required) or as a JPG if you prefer (smaller).

    My email is in my profile.
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