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Toyota Echo



  • habscouthabscout Posts: 1
    Hmm, I am trying to decide between the Echo and the Accent. Would you [kneisl1] tell me why you want to get rid of your Accent hatchback?
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Hmm I dont have an Accent I have an ECHO. I think the ECHO is a much better car than the Accent, although a hatchback would be a good thing (ECHO doesnt have a hatchback here in the US) But it doesnt get as good mileage as the ECHO, doesnt have the room/ergos the ECHO does, and isn't made by Toyota. I am very happy with my ECHO.
  • pesterkidpesterkid Posts: 18
    Has this happened to anyone else?
    Sometimes when I start my car and am ready to drive, theres some strange sound that occurs....for about 3-4 seconds....almost a screeching sound....(not extremely loud, but loud enough so,I can hear even when the windows are rolled up)
    It goes away after 3-4 secs and does'nt happen every time...
    I heard another car in the parking lot make the same screech sound....though it was not an echo..
    Any ideas?
  • pesterkidpesterkid Posts: 18
    I dont really know how to look for all you suggest I make a list of all the suggestions you made and take it to the dealer?
    Thanks. brake dragging...
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    I think you could ask them to remove and test the thermostat and that would be OK. Ask them how much first. They need to see if the thermostat is stuck OPEN when cold thus preventing the engine from warming up fast enough.
    Im guessing the screech you are hearing is a belt noise. Have the belt tension checked and also check the pulleys that the belt drives for binding. Also, have your power steering fluid checked it might be low. Tell us what you find out!
  • tsnooktsnook Posts: 18
    On my 2001 ECHO, the black paint stuff between the front and back side windows is all messed up. I bought the car used and don't know how it got like this. Here's a link to a picture of it. I was wondering how I should go about dealing with this. It is really ugly and I'm tired of seeing it every time I get in the car.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Oh, and also, whenever I am going through a drive through at a fast food restaurant, I hear a sort of oscillating spring noise. I have a 5 speed. The noise occurs when I push in the clutch after moving car forward a few feet.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Get a can of black spray paint and mask the area off with masking tape and paint it. Unless you want to spend $$$ for a body shop to do it.
    Pretty hard to figure out what the noise is you are refering to. How many miles on the car?
  • tsnooktsnook Posts: 18
    I bought the car with 120,000 on it. The guy I bought it from commuted 100 miles every day. The transmission was making a grinding noise when I bought it so I had that replaced. (even after the transmission the car only cost me $4500 - and the rest of the car besides that one spot of paint is in great condition!)

    Regarding the noise - the only way I could really describe it is this: Imagine somebody jumping on a spring pogo stick 30 yards away. That is pretty much what I hear. I only hear it at the drive through because that is pretty much the only time I drive stop and go with the window open. (it reached 114 F last week). I was just wondering if this is a somewhat normal sound for a manual, because I was guessing that it was related to the clutch.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Im guessing youre hearing it because the noise is reflected off the wall of the drive in. The same thing might happen when driving with a concrete barrier to your left. See if you can get the car to make the noise (or any noise for that matter) when going around a tight turn, like on a cloverleaf entrance to a highway. It might be a CV joint. You can grab the joints and wiggle them to see of any are loose. The outer ones (next to the wheels) tend to go first. Basically, my advice is to drive it until it breaks. Thats way it will be easier to tell what is wrong. Dont laugh! Take it to a shop and they will charge you to fix whatever their theory is even if it turns out wrong. You might try putting the front of the car up on jackstands so both wheels are off the ground. Run it through the gears and see if you get the noise. If you are feeling brave, you can lay under the car while someone else runs it through the gears. You just might find it! Dont do this if you never had a car up on jackstands.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    As far as the noise is concerned, I have a very odd suggestion since what you describe sounds like something I was hearing in my current (non-Echo) car. Turns out it was the roof aerial bobbing up and down after I came to a stop. It drove me crazy until I finally figured it out. :blush: It's unlikely your problem, but it is a thought. I pushed the aerial in about 1/2" and no more pogo-stick.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    My ECHO does that too!
  • tsnooktsnook Posts: 18
    I have my antenna pushed into the car all the way. Do you think that it could be shaking around inside?
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    I doubt it, but pull it part way out and see if there is a difference. ;)
  • reba05reba05 Posts: 36
    I just happened to check out and the ECHO is no longer listed as a vehicle. Will there be a replacement for '06? I do not see anything listed under Future Cars on the website.
    Any thoughts on if this will cause issues with resale?
    I have to admit, after another long distance trip I feel this may not be the car for me, battling the wind for 5 hours takes the fun out of the drive.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,905
    Check here for info on the next-gen ECHO, or Yaris, or whatever it will be called in the U.S.:

    sniffles, "2006 Toyota Echo" #57, 8 May 2005 10:32 am
  • reba05reba05 Posts: 36
    Thanks for the link. That's not a bad replacement if it happens - looks like a smaller Matrix or Scion xA. Hopefully it handles wind gusts better than the current design, and a few more standard options would be nice.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    I was out driving yesterday in my ECHO and the only other vehicles I saw were mopeds and motorized scooters. And I was on the New Jersey Turnpike!
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    I looked on the Toyota web site and theres nothing about the ECHOs replacement. There isnt anything about the ECHO there either. Anyone know anything about this?
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Wikipedia is reporting that in 2004, the ECHO sold 3,593 units. That is not a lot. :cry:
  • pulgopulgo Posts: 400
    31252 Toyota Echo were sold in Canada in 2004.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    How many people live in Canada? 31,000 isnt an aweful lot either, but perhaps as a percentage of population its worth Toyotas while. Those hatch ECHOs are so good looking! Ive heard local used car dealers near the border are selling examples of them in the US. True? :confuse:
  • It's coming. See the 2006 Toyota Echo thread in Future Vehicles.

    -Andrew L
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Canada has about 31 million. The Echo is usually in the top 10 in sales.
  • pulgopulgo Posts: 400
    There were more Echo's sold than Ford Focus. Gas taxes are also higher in Canada than in the US and that explains the many small car sales.
  • Sorry for taking so long to write back.
    You were so right...they said it was bcos of the pulley...
    I dont know exactly what they did, but the noise is gone.
    Thanks so much...this time around it was so much easier to get them to fix it, the last time I went, they had no idea what to look for.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Good! I just hope the noise doesnt come back!
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    Thats what I figure it will cost to drive my ECHO if gas hits $3 a gallon. My wifes Camry will be more like $20 a week.
  • That must have been recently posted because I had checked that a couple months ago. Not bad - seems like it may be smaller though and that gets to be a little impracticle for most people. Interested to see it when it comes out! However, I still like my car and don't plan on replacing anytime soon.
  • Look at this thread: lexi4life, "2007 Toyota Echo/Yaris" #1, 13 Sep 2004 9:45 pm

    The new Yaris (Echo replacement) is significantly roomier than the Echo hatchback - 3" longer, 3.5" longer wheelbase, 1" taller, 1.3" wider. While I don't have the interior measurements yet, it is said to have the same room as the current Corolla, other than the trunk.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    My 2001 ECHO has its first problem. I was changing the transmission oil today and noticed some oil over on the right hand side of the undercarriage. Come to find out the power steering pump had oil all over it. Usually when this happens its a leaking pressure hose. Going to look at the service manual and see what is involved.
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