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Nissan Maxima



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  • eblumeblum Posts: 52
    I have to believe that hp ratings have to be somewhat close to the real figure. Look at what happened with the Ford Mustang Cobra and more recently Hyundai. Both companies misrepresented hp figures and got hit with lawsuits.

    If Nissan's figures are wrong...someone should call them to the carpet.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    From my own experience, seemingly confirmed by Road and Track, the 2000 Nissan Maxima SE 5-speed with 222 horsepower was slower than the 1995 5-speed with 190 horsepower (0-60 in 7.0 and 6.7 seconds respectively). They both had essentially the same 3.0 liter V6, with the modifications in 2000 to the exhaust system.

    I know there are a lot of other factors that could lead to this result. Vehicle weight, etc., etc. But the point is that Nissan went hog wild "marketing" the horsepower increase when every test of the new car showed it to be the same or slower than it's predicessor. That's why I referred to it as more marketing BS than "engineering reality". Maybe I should have said "real world results" instead.

    As far as "calling Nissan to the carpet", they have had their share of embarassments. As drexel92 pointed out, the current Maxima was initially rated at 260+ horsepower and then, after some challenges, all the brochures and other materials changed to 255. The Q45 has been resoundly beaten up for hiding its 340 horsepower somewhere other than the engine compartment. Test it against a similar weight 282 hp 540i and it's pretty embarassing. I'm not sure this stuff is worthy of lawsuits, given the state of world affairs. But I would still let my butt-o-meter validate performance rather than rely on horsepower figures that, even if technically accurate, are not always directly correlated to performance.
  • krenarkrenar Posts: 2
    apparently i'm new here i just hav a qs, i'm gettin a max next month, i'm wonderin how much do u guys think it would be for an 02 max with 30 thousand miles or less with standard tranny? Thx
  • eblumeblum Posts: 52
    I also don't think lawsuits should be used as long as the company makes good on their promises. Ford fixed the underpowered cars and Hyundai is giving extended warranties. I hope these cases make manufactures think long and hard before they post bogus numbers.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    I am liking the 2004 exterior more and more now (like the orange!), but why is the dash design so freaking ugly? I thought the Altima was sposed to be a premium car.
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Posts: 360
    If you think the Altima is a premium car, think again. It is almost like saying the "premium" Bose system in the 03 Max is an audiophile's dream machine. Ha ha ...

    In any event, I don't understand your sudden and totally unexpeccted comment about the Altima while you are talking about the Max. Am I missing something??
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  • berbelberbel Posts: 167
    Re yur post 6165...........

    Very well stated and I couldn't agree with you more. I distinctly remember the venerable NISSAN
    initially marketing the Max that year as "260 hp"
    and thinking to myself....."uh, kicking it up to
    Acura CL Type "S" levels." Then I turned around
    and saw the final product rated at "255 hp" and
    thought...."I wonder who was responsible for that
    corporate goof?" I suppose I can't blame them for
    trying to be "competitive" BUT let's do it honestly.

  • 1997montez341997montez34 NJ, USAPosts: 202
    I can confirm the HP debacle. I have a 1995 GLE and my Mom had a 2000 SE. My '95 will walk all over the 2000, even with 130K on it. Somehow I think the car got heavier. Either that or the '95-'99 made 220+hp all along and they underrated it on purpose. Anyone dyno a '95 and a '00?
  • pbvdqpbvdq Posts: 14
    Hi All,
    I bought an '03 SE (Maxima of course) 2 weeks ago and I love it so far. I hear a slight rev-ing noise too at "take off." I find myself letting go of the gas pedal when I hear it because it sounds like I "punched it" (but I didn't). Did you find anything out about the "whining noise"?

    I almost bought an Audi A4 but I'm super glad I got the Maxima.

  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    sorry Kenny, I meant MAXIMA. I stand corrected. Sit in an Altima and you'd never accuse it of being PREMIUM.

  • eblumeblum Posts: 52
    My friend stated the other night that GM's 3.8 liter engine (in the Grand Prix) is a better engine than the VQ? I told him that he was smokin crack and the Gen II(or III) 3.8 is older than my grandfather. Anyone have an opinion?

    I think that Nissan has a great engine, good low-end and high-end power. All I know is that I can be doing 80 and drop it out of O/D and punch it....110 comes up real quick. My old Grand Prix would have had to take a coffee break.....
  • berbelberbel Posts: 167
    The VQ has been rated among the top ten engines
    on the planet for 8 years in a row.

    Understanding how many engines are manufactured
    for cars puts that fact into some perspective.

    To the best of my humble and limited knowledge,
    no American manufacturer shares that "prestige."
    Certainly not General Motors with their vintage
    pushrod V-6.

    Perhaps others who share this board with us will
    comment as well!

  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I suggest challenging your friend to find a single component of a Grand Prix that is made with the same quality and refinement as that of a Maxima.

    Pontiac's 3.8 liter puts out a rather unimpressive 200 horsepower. They need to supercharge it to get up to 240 horsepower, which is still 15 less than the smaller 3.5 liter naturally aspirated Maxima engine (47 hp less than the 350Z is rated). Hand someone like Honda 3.8 liters and a supercharger and they will give you back 450-500 horsepower with a 9,000 rpm redline. I've heard it claimed that GM engines are "durable" by my friends who buy American. What really happens in most cases is that the rest of the car falls apart before the engine hits 100k miles.

    I reluctantly rented a new Grand Prix a few months ago on travel and can assure you that my 8 year old 190hp Maxima 5-speed w/ 135k miles would handily beat it in every measure of performance, not to mention fit and finish. It's a sad commentary, but as long as there are people out there that either can't or don't distinguish between quality and crap, GM will keep producing the latter.
  • alexg4alexg4 Posts: 14
    I bought an 03 GLE a couple of months back and was foolish enough to agree to install a passive alarm system that they offered at the dealership. I definitely overpaid for it ($500) but since this was my first car purchase I didn't know any better. For those of you out there who have the same alarm system, or know something about, how good is it and what major features does it have? I know that it doesn't have headlight sensors since my HIDs were stolen and I didn't hear a beep. How much would I've been charged if I installed the same system at an independent mechanic?

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  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    tell you friend to lay off the crack, and then go drive a 3800 and VQ back to back.....that should do it!
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,703
    what a do you do it, and where can it be done without shame or embarrassment???
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