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Ford Focus Sedan



  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229
    The Mazda3 is what you're looking for. It costs about the same (sticker price anyway) as the Focus and rides on the new Euro Focus platform. Plus it has a VW-like interior.
  • Wait awhile to get a Mazda 3, when supplies build up.
  • The 2005 Corolla will have 170hp on the new XRS model.
  • hi,i would like to know more about this recall please.i called the dealer and they know nothing about it.i had to replace mine which cost me over $ there a website i can go to or a phone number? any info would be helpful.thankyou..bye
  • Saw that about the Corolla XRS, but it's a limeted run model. Maybe only 3000 of them?
  • haulthault Columbus OhioPosts: 126
    Trinity7 Check local dealer to see if Canada is included for extended coverage of fuel pump. I received my letter from FORD about a week or so ago. If you have problems I can fax you or send you a copy in the mail.
  • For now they are saying there will be a limited run of 5000 but as always Toyota is underestimating the demand for this model. If the demand is there to build more, then more will be built. Also, somewhere around 2007 with the major model change you will be able to get the Corolla equipped with the Hybrid System.
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    When I said something better will be around, I was speaking in general terms. I don't know of a specific model, but somebody has to come up with a small car with the handling/price ratio that the focus has/had .... only reliable too.

    The VW is in the same class as the Focus and is a competitor, even if on the high end it outprices the Focus. The interior quality is best in class from what I've seen.

    The Focus will be left to be the next Escort/Cavalier. A car no one talks about and is a big yawn living on a platform older than dirt ... as long as it brings in cash for Ford, they don't care. People pay top dollar for SUVs, not small cars... so there is no incentive to build them better and American manufacturers have proven time and time again they can't build good small cars (or don't want to). The Focus is essentially a German car with super cheap global parts.

    I suspect the same fate will fall upon the Cobalt.... GM's so called last big effort to gain a foothold in that segment. It's doomed to fail with GM behind it.
  • bobk14bobk14 Posts: 17
  • I will ask again. What about the upcoming Pontiac Solstice? Small rear wheel drive coupe and roadster under 20000. I have heard that that car will be produced in 2005. Anyone know anything about this???
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Err, snakerbill? You might want to ask in a Pontiac discussion, maybe one on the Coupes board. Try the search features on the left side of the page. (The Select a Board dropdown will get you to the Coupes board.)
  • fdanna, you're so correct about the Focus being a german car with cheap global parts. "Cheap parts" is key. The focus is a fine small car but Ford need not build it better b/c it can discount it heavily to move 250k/yr.......and you're right--it's all about SUVs. Ford needs to move lotsa Foci for every SUV so it can meet CAFE standards. A $500 loss on every Focus is more than offset by a $2000 profit on every truck sold.
  • markus5markus5 Posts: 102
    I am still becoming adjusted to the driving dynamics of the my ZTS. The 2.3 is really impressive even with auto. I have only 1500 miles on it but the Gas mileage is not Impressive this is probably due both to the newness of the car and the types of driving I am doing right now. However, it seems that some of this is due to the accuracy of the odometer.

    Just the other day while on the Interstate 88, 65 mph is posted and where I have always driven at 71-73, I noted that with this new Focus, traffic that I was ahead was getting "big" much faster than normal. I was also aware that nobody was passing me even though with the cruise control set at (only) 72, you will generally be passed. Then I had the opportunity to measure my odometer against the mile markers over several miles. It was consistently under measuring. Mile posts were coming up somewhere between .9-1.0 . over 5 or six miles it was over 2 tenths short. My focus has the Pirelli 205/50 16 inchers. Has any body else noticed these discrepencies. The majority of the Foci have the 15 inch tires. I have not yet reported any problems to the Dealer.
  • Someone hit mine off while I was parked in the street : ( I'm debating calling the insurance company . .. .
  • bobk14bobk14 Posts: 17
    The Focus is in its fifth model year, yet no one, but no one, makes a battery for it except, of course the manufacturer.Can someone out their please tell me why?
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    Hmm... I think the battery is about the only thing on my car that hasn't failed. Oops... I probably just jinxed myself.

    There's nothing special about the battery that I can see. I went to to see if they sell a battery and they do. Looks like there are alternatives.
  • Is the ford focus zx3 consider a sport car or a hatchback, does the insurance cost a lot to insure the ford focus zx3 if your a 16 years old driver.
  • markus5markus5 Posts: 102
    Anything like this will be expensive especially if you have the heated mirrors which are on mine, and there have been a few close encounters already. I remember reading somewhere that there is an option for "fold in" mirrors for the SVT models which may be adaptable to other Foci. Am I delusional, or has anybody else seen this ?
    If something like this is available, there is no question that I would go for them if replacements become necessary.
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    I was wondering if anyone had brought their 00-01 focus in to have the fuel pump replaced under the warranty extension program. The service advisor I spoke to said he hadn't seen one case yet and that the fuel pump wouldn't be ready for another 2 to 4 months even though the customer service letter said late january.

    Has anyone been refused this service? Do you know if you got the new pump design?
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    ZX3 is considered a hatchback 2 door on the market. Regarding insurance costs, ask around.
  • I had my Focus stall in rush hour freeway traffic for no apparent reason so I was happy to get this letter concerning the fuel pump assembly, until the service department told me I have to pay the diaognostic fee of $83.00 to see if I have the "Program 03N01" defect.If they deterimine that you do indeed have this defect they will pay for everything including the diagnostic, but if you don't you pay for the test.
    As was explained to me by several customer service people this is NOT a recall but an extended warranty.
     Ford has admitted there is a problem, but to avoid paying for the diagnostic to see if you have the defect they don't call it a recall but an extended warranty. Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

    Below is a copy of the Ford letter talking about the defective fuel pump assembly.

    Focus Extended Coverage Program 03N01
    All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealers

     Extended Coverage Program 03N01 - Certain 2000 and 2001 Model Year Focus Vehicles Fuel Delivery Module


    This program extends the coverage of the fuel delivery module (FDM) to 10 years from the original warranty start date of the vehicle, with no limit on the number of miles that the vehicle has been driven. This program provides replacement coverage, and is automatically transferred to subsequent owners.


    Certain 2000 and 2001 model year Focus vehicles built at the Wayne and Hermosillo Assembly Plants from Job #1,1999 through June 13, 2001. Affected vehicles are identified in OASIS.


    Some of the affected vehicles may experience engine hesitation, loss of power, surging, and other similar symptoms as a result of contamination of the fuel pump filters. Because the contamination of the filters is progressive, they may ultimately become sufficiently blocked to cause the engine to stall completely. Although the symptoms noted above can occur under a variety of driving conditions, they are most likely to occur when there is less than one-quarter tank of fuel and/or when the driver is attempting to accelerate while making a right turn maneuver (such as entering a highway through a cloverleaf) or while driving uphill.


    If the customer's vehicle exhibits the symptoms described above, dealers should replace the fuel pump unless there is clear evidence that the symptoms are solely caused by some other component. To assist in determining the cause of the symptoms, you should interview the customer. In addition, diagnosis time is provided to road test the vehicle. See Attachment IV for customer interview flow chart.

    If it is determined that the symptoms are caused by some other component and the FDM is operating properly, the customer should be notified that the repair is not covered under this program. This program does not cover parts or procedures other than replacement of the fuel delivery module. The fuel delivery module replacement will be performed at no charge to the customer.


    With increased service capacity, use the resulting service traffic to acquire new retail service customers, or become re-acquainted with current ones. Take this opportunity to make a lifetime customer by demonstrating:

    Care by using the Quality Care Report Card every time to identify additional service needs that may require attention.

    Convenience by offering convenient payment terms, by scheduling service appointments, and by providing convenient hours and days of operation.

    Competitive Pricing by promoting national, regional, and your individual dealer service specials.

    Attachment I: Administrative Information
    Attachment II: Labor Allowances and Parts Ordering Information
    Attachment III: Technical Information
    Attachment IV: Customer Interview Flow Chart
    Customer Notification Letter


    Claims Information:.....................................................- - ............................1-800-423-8851
    Special Service Support Center (Dealer only) Questions:............................1-800-325-5621
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    That term really irks me. I mean, if you drive on small roads less than 5 miles away from home in a temperate climate, maybe there isn't an unreasonable risk. However, if you have a 35 miles highway commute in temperatures that drop down to -10 on highways that lack breakdown lanes in some parts, then I'd say it's an unreasonable risk. I found myself in the latter situation. I'm hoping to get the pump replaced as soon as the new design is available.

    Diagnostic fees in my area are $75. The nice thing is that according to the wording, it's really up to them to prove that there isn't something else causing the problem. It reads that if they can't find another possible cause, they need to replace it.
  • Here is a link to the message I posted before. I deleted the message because it contained copyrighted material that is against policy to post here. My mistake.
    You can read the article through the below URL
  • 151ranch151ranch Posts: 109
    I am looking to test drive a manual tranny focus, but my dealer tells me there are only 2 (!) in the entire state of Texas on the dealers' lots to look at....I refuse to buy a manual with out test driving it, and am not really interested in the SVT.

    Does anyone have the 2.3L manual? I am interested in knowing a little more before driving 100 miles to test drive.
  • Personally, I don't think Ford is building more than a trickle of cars with 5 speeds. I'm in Houston, and there is not a single ZX3 with the 2.3 and manual transmission on a dealer's lot - what's up with that? I'd seriously consider getting one, but there are none to be had. Around here, it isn't worth going to a Ford store unless you are shopping for a truck :(
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    I think here in the north east 5-speeds are a tiny bit more popular, depending on the model. The ZX3, for example, is not so hard to find here with a 5-speed. However, if you're looking for, say, a Carolla 5-speed, forget it.

    Overall, manual transmission make up less than 9% of all cars sold in the U.S.

    I would think that in a place like Texas with such enormous distance between cities that a 5 speed might be more popular (less shifting).

    Maybe we have more europeans up here who prefer 5-speeds. In Europe it's more like less than 9% automatics. You should see the look on american's faces when they get to their rental cars... they're ALL manual unless you specifical request automatic. Even then, it's a crapshoot.

    Good luck!
  • I have a 5 speed Focus wagon and at the time I bought it the dealer said they didn't exist. I even showed them a print out from Edmunds that showed that option on a wagon and the salesman still refused to believe me.I had to insist that he search the Ford dealer data base for other dealers' inventories and after a few failed attempts they found one at a dealer in Vermont(I'm in NY state)
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    I'm gonna eat my words and say I spoke to soon. I just did search on and there are NO 5-speeds around. Geez, that sucks.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,229

    Since we're not even getting the new Focus chassis here I wouldn't expect to see anything like this anytime soon. Oh well.
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