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Ford Focus Sedan



  • I'm interested in car that was previously used as a rental. I'm a little worried about the overall wear and tear. The seat fabric was a litle worn in, but I think I can get over that. And there is a stripe on the side.

    Has anyone bought this car used before?
  • Looking at a 2004 Focus Brochure, it shows the ZTS as having the rear stabilizer bar as standard equipment. Are you sure it's not there on yours?
    The Sport package seems to be mostly cosmetic, with the exception of the 16" rims/tires. Perhaps they do make a real difference.
    Did you notice the suspension softness early on or did it develop over the 5K usage?
    The 5 year/100K powertrain warranty is now standard too.

  • I have not bought a used rental before, but I would sure stay away from them. I've rented many a car before and I can honestly say I was never "easy" on any of them. Knowing it's not your car frees one to push the vehicle to its limits. Not knowing how a one owner car was broken in is hard enough for me to trust used. Not knowing all of those possibly careless renters makes it impossible for me to consider one.
    Hope this helps,
  • carlrjrcarlrjr Posts: 35
    ...and I'd buy it again. It has the 100,000 power train warranty, and it had 14,000 miles when I bought it. I even found a Budget map in a seat pocket! I just turned over 36,000 miles and have had no problems so far.
    My SE has the gutless engine that doesn't allow anyone to hurt anything with only 110 horsepower. Fortunately, the kick-butt MP3/CD premium stereo and crisp handling make up for the unimpressive power.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    your dealer blew smoke up your...well, you know...

    there was no cost for it to begin with. its covered by ford. it is with a $100 deductible per repair.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    One thing that really changed for 05 is the Front Braking System. Larger rotors provide less wear/longer life and better brake feel. If you drive stick this might not be that noticeable.

    I'd go for an 04 with the 2.3l engine but not for an 04 with the zetec.

  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    The 5yr/100k miles powertrain warrenty is standard from the factory, its attached to the car and will come up with the VIN at any Ford Dealer. Its not something you had to sign for to get.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,793
    ok. i went out in the dark with a flashlight and looked under the car. it DOES have a rear stabilizer bar, it's just tucked up at the top of the suspension, rather than lower, where you usually see them.
    regarding the 100k powertrain warrantee, i signed a separate contract for it, the cost was marked n\c. my car was built 10-03, maybe it wasn't standard at that time.
    the suspension has softened up, but i'm used to a truckier ride, so other may not notice.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
  • I decided not to buy the rental. I really liked the car, but when I was at the dealer the manager told he salesman to "just get rid of the car". That worried me. After driving the Focus again there was a clicking noise coming from the back.
    I'm no thinking of getting an 05 new. Its just hard to match the features and the price of the used vehicle.
  • Does anyone know if the rear sway bar from the ZTS can be installed on an SE?
    Will this make a big enough difference to justify cost (I am not handy enough to do this myself)?

    I still have my eye on this 04 SE, but still on the fence.

    Any comments would be appreciated,
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    no, man...we are telling you, the dealer, although harmless, lied to you about it. they wanted you to think it was some kind of outrageous deal that they were giving you, when it wasnt even their deal.

    i bought mine in 9/03, and the 5/100 had been on all '03s from jump street in '02.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,793
    i did my research and knew the 5/100 was part of the deal. i even asked about it because the sticker says 3/36. this was after the price had been agreed to. i could be wrong about the separate contract. i do have a brochure for the powertrain coverage that has 'free' written on it.

    a zts comes with power windows, locks, cruise and tilt wheel. don't know if those are extra on an 'se', or if you care about them.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    I think in some states, they are giving you an extended service plan..florida is one of the states that a little different.

    Either way, it should still come up with the VIN if you are at a different dealer and need to get warrenty work done.

  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    thats a good point. florida and puerto rico are specified in the warranty literature to be somehow different.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,793
    how about connecticut? :)
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    connecticut is not one of them. florida and puerto rico only.
  • I just bought an '05 ZX4 ST which, according to both the dealer and the brochure, comes with retained accessory power (letting you close the sunroof or windows after you shut off the ignition for a few seconds, as long as no door is opened).

    To date, I haven't been able to make this feature work. Any suggestions or feedback from anyone on this? Am I doing or not doing something obvious?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,793
    i think it's referred to as an extended service plan. does that make a difference? i'm not really worried about it, just curious.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    make sure you dont open the door. once the door opens, the retained power is shut off.
  • Focus owners/operators: I drive a 2004 ZTW with the factory in-dash CD/MP3 sound system, a single disc CD player, made by Blaupunkt. In my opinion the owner's manual is not specific with regard to the clock display with the radio on in either AM or FM mode. With the radio on, the frequency of the station is seen at the top of the LCDisplay. A single press of the "clk" button at the top, right side of the unit will display the time where the frequency was for several seconds then return to the frequency. Is there not a way to lock the time to display instead of the freq? I have the status clock displayed in the lower left corner of the LCD but the much larger numbers seen when toggling between frequency/clk are easier to view. The dealership does not have an answer to my quesion. Thanks in advance for any advice. BTW, we took delivery of our ZTW in April and with two long road trips as well as in town use have logged 6k plus miles. So far trouble free, fun driving. If you have any questions about our experience with the ZTW post a msg and I'll respond.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    that slot is only for what you have found. the permanent clock display is only on the bottom left.
  • after purchasing a zts in 5/04 it has been back to the dealer 4 times in 2 months,once for a recall on the heated seats & 3 times with a fuel gauge problem the 1st issue occured after filling, the gauge stayed on empty the dealer said ford told them to clear the computer & re-enter a code, that didn't solve the problem because after filling the tank again the gauge read at 1/2 tank the sending unit was then replaced, once again the gauge is not corrected now it stays at full tank after 150 miles then slowly moves between full & 3/4 after 200 miles, when filling again it took 8 gal.which should be 1/2 tank this time the dealer stated the float on the new sending unit was not set correctly & was reading 1/4 more then it should have
    once I receive it back from the dealer I may trade it, but it maybe my last ford
  • NUTZ! Clearly, your service department suks! However, I wouldn't trade yet. If the rest of the car is satisfactory or better, why get rid of an otherwise good car. You may need to write some letters to the dealer principal, general manager, service manager, and contact Ford's customer service feedback people. Nowadays, no one wants a dissatisfied customer. The fuel gauge is a relatively simple/minor element of the whole car. This could be caused by something as simple as version coding. The recall proves that Ford is serious about getting the seat heaters right. You should be firm but not uncivilized when dealing with these people and they will surely get things back the way they should be. We love our Focus and consider it an excellent choice/decision for our needs.
  • fdthirdfdthird Posts: 352
    Are you in an area where its possible to take the car to another dealer? So many times its the lack of desire on the part of the dealer's service personnel that makes the problem a lot bigger than it is. I have to agree though, if you like the rest of the car this is a relatively small item use use as a reason to trade it and swear off Fords for ever.
  • I'm sorry to hear of your problems with your ZTS. We're driving an 04 ZTW which to this point in time has treated us well. I hope you can get some satisfaction with the dealership soon or as suggested involve other Ford parties or go to another dealership if one is available. Use that 3/36 warranty to it's fullest extent. It would seem to me that if you are otherwise enjoying your car that you should get the problems cleared and not jump too quickly into another "car deal" and more money from your bank account. Please tell me more about the "recall" on the heated seats. Our wagon has that option and I've turned it on to see that both seats warm but have not used the heat as there has been no need. Is this a bonafide Ford recall? All details, please. Thanks.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,793
    it's termed a customer satisfaction program. not all cars with heated seats are affected. a guy at work has the exact twin of my car, and he didn't get a letter. when my seats were done, they needed to keep the car overnight, but gave me a loaner. it smelled bit like glue for about a day.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2014 Ford F-150 FX4
  • 01 zx3 5 speed 19k. I enjoy the heck out of the car, Has plenty of pep for ordinary driving and I really enjoy the low end torque of the 2.0 zetec compared to the recent cars I have test ridden.

    I test rode a Eleantra GT, Mazda 3 with the 2.3 and a Corolla S. They all rev faster and higher to get going especially in 1st gear. The Corolla is a POS to drive to me, the engine sound horrible and the shifting action sucks. The Eleantra shifts awesome but 1st gear is LOUD and the gearing is too tall. The Mazda 3 is total fun but the price tag scares me for what is still an small car. I mean that thing is close to 19 to 20k.

    I got my ZX3 new for 11,300 before tax, Lic so I saved a bundle compared to what small fun cars go for now.

    The more I test ride these others cars the more I like my car. Ford built the Focus with a flatter torque curve and Its great for someone who lives in Seattle with tons of traffic.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Try the new Focus, once you get past the boring interior, I think you'll find the new 2.0L to be a blast. Same low end torque you are use to, new 5 speed tranny and with 2k cash back, still a good value.

    Plus you get the 5yr/100k mile powertrain warranty.

    The 2.0 is a Mazda engine. Mazda tuns it for more high revving horsepower at cost of low end torque.

    Pass on the Focus ST. The 2.3L really doesn't add enough performance to justify the up to $20k sticker price. If you are thinking of spending that kind of money, definitely go with the Mazda3...Have yet to see a better interior on a sub 20k car than the Mazda3's.

  • Picked up the car a few days ago, leftover '04, ZTS, 2.3, 5 speed, moonroof, 6-cd changer, alloy wheels (no tach though). Got them down, after rebate, to $11,990 + tax, tags, etc. Inferno red is a bit more than I'm used too (black and silver are my usual choices), but I'm getting used to it. Being a left over, it had 115 miles on it, and a few scratches (dealer re painted both bumpers per my request). This is my first stick and I'm getting the hang of it now. I was wondering If you can shift 1 - 3 in this car or is better to go to 2nd? In NYC, there are so many stop signs and traffic, I find myself constantly shifting. Also, is it normal for the car to make a light crunching noise when braking to a stop (end of stop only)? That noise and a fluid shaking noise (like a bottle of water being shaken when I stop) are my only concerns. Otherwise it's a blast to drive.
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