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Buick Rainier, Chevy TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy



  • mookie14mookie14 Posts: 252
    In fact i am towing about 800 lbs boxes etc. I went on and did it i did not get response back from you guys so i did it.Another thing on my right wheel when i turn to the left i hear clinging or rubbing or sounds like the wheel is rolling onto something like metal on metal can you guys help me with this. I just went to pick up my auto and they said they fixed it BUT!!!!! the sound i described i HEARD!!! it again. Lastly if it is rust do i have to pay for this??? even though i have gmpp???? thanks guys i will wait for you posts. Ps. The tranny fluid by the way was looking brown so.....
  • kev33kev33 Posts: 1
    I own a used a 2002 envoy sle. No real problems (aside from wear and tear). Until I noticed by winter that my rear defrost doesn't work. It was not covered by extended warrenty because all glass is not covered. Told me it would be over 1000$us to replace window because filiments aren't working. Anyone one else have the same problem or advice.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Is there electric going to the glass? Put a meter on both wires to see if it has 12 volts. If it does than start looking for broken filiments. If you find them there should be some kind of repair to them. In the first few years they were out you could buy a little bottle of liquid repair stuff, don't know what it is called. You can also put a meter to each line and see if each one works. I use a tail light bulb and socket with about a foot of the wire from the socket sticking out and a steak on crimped to the wire and a small nail sharpened crimped to the other end of the steak on. Poor mans meter. :shades:
  • poleslivpolesliv Posts: 2
    My son backed into a pole last week and broke the passenger side tail light. i bought a new tail light but the housing for the the turn signal is broke. Does anyone know where i can buy just the housing? The brake light still works but neither of the reverse lights work. any help would appreciated. Thank You
  • badgerpaulbadgerpaul Posts: 219
    Or your friendly auto recycler (junkyard).
  • rainersrainers Posts: 50
    I had just upgraded my analog to digital but do not know if this is related to digital only. Six weeks ago I locked myself out of my truck. I called Onstar and they tried 4 times to unlock the doors with no success. I then called roadside assistance and they unlocked my doors by sending someone to my house. The next day it was clear and sunny so I called Onstar again and the door unlock failed. So this time I touched the Blue button and said hello and hung up. After doing that Onstar could remotely unlock my doors many times over and over. I waited another six weeks and the same thing happened again. OnStar could not unlock my doors until I pressed the Blue button, making a connection to OnStar. I called OnStar and let them know this. Their response was that they know this and it is my responsiblity to call them once a month by using the Blue button. If I do not use the Blue button or make a call using OnStar cellular then they can not Unlock you doors remotely or use Horn/Lights locating. Personally I think it sucks. I always counted on Onstar to remotely be able to unlock my doors without having to do any routines. PS. I also found out that if you do not use your cellular once a month then people who try to call your truck number will get a busy signal no matter if your car is on or off. This bad if you forward your calls from you cell phone on long trips. OnStar told me it is because of the Cellular usage. I think they have a costing issue and will not fix it. My wife's TeleAid system on her car does not require this procedure, I can call TeleAid anytime and remotely unlock her doors.
  • Hello room

    My 2002 Trailblazer has 100,000 trouble free miles :blush: The dealership wants to charge me $500 to replace spark plugs and wires...I think that absurd. Is that something I can do myself? If so can someone tell me how its done and what part numbers I need? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Joe :P
  • quarquequarque Posts: 41
    My 05 Rainier came with one year of free OnStar and I hardly ever used it. After your story I'm glad I didn't renew my subscription. Requiring people to remember to use the system every month so they can provide service is absolutely ridiculous. Just when you need it most it does not work. Doubt that little tidbit will be in the OnStar ads.
  • tblazedtblazed Posts: 945
    $500? And that was all they were going to do? I would drive away from that dealer as fast as I can! Plugs (ACDelco 41-965) are about $6-7 a piece and you need 6, there are no spark plug "wires" to replace since there is a coil for each plug. Took me less than an 1 hr to replace mine, all accessible from the top when you take off the air intake resonator. Very easy to do - as long as no plugs are seized in the head.
  • 01_hoe01_hoe Posts: 273
    As Tblazed said, no plug wires. I'm wondering if they were going to replace the 6 coil packs and the plugs for $500.00.
  • 2002slt2002slt Posts: 228
    OK, my first question is why are you locking yourself out so much? Maybe they're tired of unlocking your doors, so they made up an excuse. Second is, where did you get the upgrade? I never heard they were doing that, but then again, I really didn't care. I never used OnStar in my old Envoy. Tried to make a call once, but it was a lousy connection. My TB SS has the digital system and the phone actually works pretty good. But, for the price they get I'll just keep using my cell phone.
  • rainersrainers Posts: 50
    I do not lock myself out alot just one time. Onstar will not work if you do not contact them once a month, whether you have cellular or not. Just imagine that you have not used the blue button or your truck cellular for 6 weeks and your TB is stolen or you get an in accident. Surprise.... they can't help, your screwed....

    I had my system upgraded through Onstar at the Chevy Dealership, I thought about buying a new TB SS to get the digital OnStar system but I was not as stupid or as foolish as you to spend that much money on a truck.

    PS- If someone spends 40K plus on a truck, why are they to cheap to spend a $100.00/yr to maintain the OnStar?
  • 2002slt2002slt Posts: 228
    Hmmm...You sound bitter. If it was possible to get the SS W/O Onstar, I wouldn't have it. Totally useless if you asked me. You must really like Onstar if that was your only purpose for looking at an SS. Why am I stupid for wanting a 395HP SUV? It gets almost the same fuel economy as my ole Envoy, and is a hell of a lot more fun to drive.

    PS - As much as I don't care for them, you DON'T have to call them once a month in order to have them unlock your doors. Like I said, they probably just gave you that line to get you off the phone. :)
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Posts: 867
    I've got the analog (digital upgradable) On-Star in a 2004 Envoy XL. If you renew your subscription past Dec 31, 2007 you might get a free upgrade to Digital... They will not support the analog system after that date. Found that out last year after I had renewed for 2 years...if you renewed for 3 years they would upgrade for free.

    About the only use I see for the cell phone is that if you are a Verizon Wireless customer and have a family share plan, you can add the vehicle phone to that plan for $10 per month and share the minutes (you have to have the digital On-Star to do that.)

    BTW, I've only had to use the unlock feature one wash somehow locked the keys in while running it through. On-Star was able to unlock it...analog system. Wonder if the digital system is what is causing the problem with having to use the blue button every month?
  • Thanks tblazed...maybe they were going to replace the coils who knows..they said after 4 yrs that the wires could be brittle...weird. So how do I remove the sparkplugs without risking that one is seized? Does it require much force? Also, did you have to gap the plugs or were they ready? Thanks for your help.

  • tblazedtblazed Posts: 945
    I cannot imagine what they were quoting you for $500. I hope there was more to it than that.

    Anyway you take off the air resonator on top, and each coil has a bolt that secures it down onto the plug. Loosen the coil bolt, lift out coil. The only one I had trouble with was #1 on front had to unclip and take loose the wire harness holder and move it out of the way a little to get the coil out. The plugs resisted unscrewing all the way out but I didn't have any seized. If they were installed properly from the factory shouldn't be a problem. Also the plugs are plated to resist seizing in the aluminum. Buy some anti-seize compound to use on the threads of the new plugs. Tighten plugs with a torque wrench to 15 ft/lb as I recall. I checked the gaps they were all OK.
  • glubashglubash Posts: 19
    PS- If someone spends 40K plus on a truck, why are they to cheap to spend a $100.00/yr to maintain the OnStar?

    I'm one of the ones that is too cheap to pay for OnStar, but, if I did, I think that I would call them up a few times a week..."Betty, it's me again, I'm walking out to the parking lot. Hit the unlock for me okay!" Better yet, if they could do a remote start, I'd pay the $100 for that (and call them every day during the winter after work).

  • Thanks tblazed. I will let you know how it turns out...I found them for $6 each at CarQuest :) Doing it this weekend! :blush: :P
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  • seifordseiford Posts: 68
    Sunday I had the back hatch on our 2003 Envoy DROP when I went to close it. It hit my hand, but I was able to pull it out before getting it totally smashed in there.

    The cause was that the left (driver) side shock on the hatch came off the top mounting ball. As I looked at it closer, I could see that the mounting ball was very loose.

    I was able to fix it tonight by removing the plastic side trim on the hatch (on the sides of the window) and then tightening the nut that is on the backside of the mounting ball.

    So next time you have the hatch open, take a peek at the shock mounts and make sure they are tight. I'll be keeping a close eye on mine from now on.
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,524
    Personally I don't care for those shock type supports. You never really know when they have become weak and are only barely supporting the weight of the hatch/hood they are holding up. Add some wind to the mix and you can have a real bad situation. Suffice it to say that I recommend you take care when standing under the hatch when it's propped open. It doesn't hurt to pull down on it a little after opening it to verify that it has some force holding it open.
    I had an incident many years ago with a Taurus I once owned where the hood closed while I was leaning over the engine changing the plugs on the rear bank. I must have looked pretty funny with the hood laying on my back and only my legs sticking out the front. Fortunately nobody had a camera at the ready so there's no lasting record of it, and it didn't whack me on the head so I survived.
  • ktliu777ktliu777 Posts: 1
    Wow. Are you saying they couldn't fix it and gave you your money back ? I have a 2004 with low miles where the ABS and brake lights stay on, and the air conditioning doesn't work. Did the AC go out on your LS as well ?

    Too bad it is out of warranty. Sounds expensive.
  • snokingsnoking Posts: 47
    This has nothing to do with the vehicle. My wife had the same problem with her Verizon cell phone when she hardly used it. It drops out of their system if not used very often. So push Onstar once and a while, and stay great you guys are still there, and I am here, thanks l8r. SNOKING
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  • Does anyone know if changing those rear swaybar bushings is expensive /difficult to do? I have been told that they are worn and I wont pay dealership prices for service. Tblazed you have done many repairs on this easy? :D

    Thanks :blush:
  • :( Wow, you would think my dealership would be glad to have the resolution to my 2 year old "we don't know how to fix the" issue. Can you believe, they will not do this (even though the issue is verbatim the same) because "you have an envoy, this is a ranier" I called and updated my GM open case w/ this information and, after dealing w/ the initial snootiness :cry: the customer service rep called my dealer but amazingly, the manager was not there.

    Essentially, I have no advocate. My dealership mgr did offer that I could always buy a new car. He got quite an answer.

    So, I'm left w/ the open case w/ GM, no resolution (even though I have researched and supplied the fix)and zero promise of any correction. Any advice? I guess the idea of "triplets" isn't really true....... :sick:

  • quarquequarque Posts: 41
    What a shame that your dealer is such a ____head (fill in your own adjective). Now I see why that guy drove his car right through the front window of his dealer's showroom back in '03 and said "oops, the breaks don't always seem to work right." He had been to the dealer 9 times for the same brake problem and they told him there was no problem even though he demonstrated the intermittent lack of brake boost to a tech there (excessive pedal pressure to stop the car). His wife and he had both rear-ended cars because of it. The story did not indicate the final resolution but I'm sure he was satisfied, regardless. I believe there was over $35,000 damage to the place - about equal to the price of the new car he bought there.

    I fail to understand why some dealers are so unsupportive after a sale is made. I thank my lucky stars I have a top-notch Buick dealer in Seattle for all my work. They go above and beyond on everything. They sell Envoys too!
  • tblazedtblazed Posts: 945
    Yes pretty much a straight forward job with simple tools if you don't mind getting under it. Are you sure they meant the bushings only, and not the links too? The links are usually what wear out first, and start rattling over minor bumps.
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