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2010+ Buick Lacrosse - Options



  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I've been searching for more info on HK and it turns out they have been using similar in BMW for quite a few years. The 3 series, at least some years from 91-99, used 11 speaker system. And one person, a musician, railed about how horrible the system is, or was because he replaced it with a collage of parts and is much happier. I would like to trust a professional musicians ear, but just grabbing speakers in pairs according to size seems very risky toward achieving system balance.
    But the BMW site has a brag about its 11 & 13 speaker HK systems. They brag on balance, that no matter where you sit you get the same experience. Gone is the sweet spot.
    If that system sounds like mine, I can agree that the sweet spot is gone. Just junk spots.
    There were several complaints of blown speakers and head units and one complaining that the dealer price on a tweeter is $100. Another complained that his speakers were plain cheap paper. If he knew what he was talking about it is no wonder they fail. The environment of an automobile, vibrations, temperature & humidity extremes, tremendous pressure changes from slamming doors or trunk lid, opening or closing of windows at highway speed, would be a speaker killer if they were not specially designed to withstand.
    A quality designed system would have each speaker in an enclosure. Example, door speakers would sit into a box of some sort with padding to isolate it from sounds at its back side and isolation mounts so the sound traveling through the metal door is not transmitted by the speaker.
    I do know that I can see the rear speakers from the trunk because of the large cutout holes. Is there supposed to be a plugging cap for these holes to stop trunk noises from entering via the speakers?
  • rainman5542rainman5542 Posts: 114
    IMHO, one needs to trust one's own ears. We are all different and listen to different music at different sound levels. You found ONE complaint but fail to realize there are a few hundred thousand satisfied owners.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    According to service writer, the HK 11 speaker in BMW is not the same and superior to this one. He seems to think it is low quality speakers, but I'm not betting on what the issue is. After listening to the base radio in CXL for 10 days, this one is superior, but only because I'd compare it to the radios used prior to 1965.
    You are right that a lot of people think they've got good sound coming through a pair of cheap ear plugs (where's the bass?) on a low quality stream not near CD quality. Must be a lot of tone deaf people in the world or they just like the idea of new and can carry with.
    On that note, I tried hooking my iPod touch(second generation) via bluetooth. That ain't happening. But it worked fine via USB including throwing the menus up on car screen. The bluetooth is obviously a short coming of the iPod and it won't do it with my phone either.
    BTW, the music was Absolute stream of over 1Mb/sec in ogg-flac which I easily converted to m4a at highest bit rate using Nero AAC codec via Foobar. It was easily as good as any CD, but sytem still displayed bass anomilies, fuzz, etc. All settings in vehicle were centered.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    My 2011 shows it is a program from MAR 2009. From day one, the first three attempts to locate a business, it sent me to old locations where they were no longer located, in one instance a vacant lot because they demolished. It tried to send me closed roads and roads that were not even built or completed. Although the road I was on had a turnout, it ended in about 10' and I could barely make out the strands of barbed wire in the headlights. The area was still a field.
    Some have rumored a free update. Is that so?
    They now have a new disc but it is $200 which I think is robbery. I could add the navigation to my cell phone for $5/mo which claims it is always up to date and shows traffic problems live because it has like over a million monitor points. The down side being the size of the screen.
    I may just get a much larger phone of some sort because to get such through GM, I'd have to buy the disc repeatedly, every year or so, and pay extra for features on XM which have very limited live points, or pay the high premium for OnStar.
    This is piracy from GM.
  • crankeeecrankeee Posts: 298
    edited June 2011
    Rainman: AMEN! Some drivers are more particular with the details and that has to be very frustrating with a car that has a multitude of parts put together by mere mortals. I don't look for problems at my age, I look for answers and the new (2010) Lacrosse has proven to be a provider of enjoyment to my wife and myself. Thank goodness!
    Good luck
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    This concerns the auxillary inputs, especially the USB.
    I found the iPod interesting because it shows the music list from it. The play bar can not be changed as from the iPod though. You have to use seek buttons which don't allow you to jump around. But still pretty nice. I have not checked to see if it will through album art up on Nav screen, yet.
    But because I like very high quality audio I find the 8GB iPod Touch too small.
    Has anyone tried thumb drive or portable HDD?
    I would like to know your experience.
    I'd like to make the music on my computer available in vehicle. Much of it is 320Kb/s MP3 and if I add CD's, that is rip from CD at the same rate, I could easily be above 160GB.
    Thumb drives would require multiple and I don't know if a USB hub or switch will work with system.
    Has anyone tried a laptop?
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Has anyone figured out making or using playlists?
    The manual is very vague other than we are supposed to be able to use them.
    The concern I have is that many media players use their own format for making and using playlists. It would seem impossible for our systems to universally understand all of them.
    So, if you had success, what did you use to create the list?
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    you are so right. But it is my thinking that when they discovered something did not work well, they would have made notes for future employees so they don't make the same mistakes. I can prove GM has been negligent in this area.
    Since adding the carpet to the trunk floor, bass has improved quite a bit. It likely is deadening some sound from bottom of vehicle and damping cross-talk between the left and rear speakers. And with the trunk filled it seemed to improve even more. So my next step will be to plug those holes into the trunk. It is my suspicion that the grilles much larger than speaker will vent back to cabin.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Has anyone noticed a change in their system?
    Specifically the distance or area of coverage?
    You might want to check. One example, the right one does not now alert until a vehicle coming up the right side is at or past my bumper!
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Besides realizing that the loaner I was in last had horrible detection and that there was an area on left side big enough for a smaller vehicle or motorcycle to hide in along with right side issue.
    And the last time mine was in, they made mine like that. Damned. Already complained about that. And yesterday bore that out. I passed a motorcycle on divided 4 lane. I was cruising about 2 MPH faster than him. Plenty of room in right lane so I went to pull over. I checked my mirrors and no sight of him along with no SBZ. Where the heck did he go? I am so glad I questioned the mirrors and SBZ because after checking a few times he came into sight. He was hidden by that huge pillar right side rear. GM idiots. And I'd tell that to the president face on.
    No thanks to the filter, I had one good day of clear sinuses in the last two months. And the play in steering drove me nuts driving a lot of two lane road yesterday.
    Only good news I have is the release of who is getting ticketed most. Of the top 10 least ticketed, only two were cars, and lacrosse beat the other one. Lacrosse placed 5th.
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