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  • dclsdcls Posts: 32
    There you go - a classy name: Cosmopolitan. Or how about Capri - the one that won the Pan-Am road race for 3 years in a row in the early fifties?
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    There is no air suspension pump on any LS I've ever heard of, certainly not stock.

    Please tell me it wasn't someone at a dealership who gave you this information.
  • sniemietzsniemietz Posts: 40
    My high mount brake light went out on my 2000 LS. I'm at a loss on how to get to the bulb. It appears that the cover should just pop off from the deck lid but it sure does seem to be stubborn. Has anyone replaced this bulb and what is the secret to gaining access to the bulb???
  • lobsenzalobsenza Posts: 619
    I believe the cover should just slide off toward the front of the vehicle. I watched the guy do it when my tint was installed.
  • Suspension Pump?! :crazy:

    The 3rd brake light cover slides toward the front of the car. Push down while sliding to disengage the "teeth" that keep it from rattling loose.

    The Capri was (since the early 70's) a Mercury coupe. I own a '73. No way could that be used for Lincoln.
  • gunnersmategunnersmate Posts: 243
    do you hear any prononced mechanical sounds like a linkage clunking?
  • gunnersmategunnersmate Posts: 243
    not that heard of.
  • gunnersmategunnersmate Posts: 243
    yep... just slide it toward the nose of the car while pressing down and it should lift away.... I would say that the total travel is about 2 inches max.
  • bob550kbob550k Posts: 148
    Lincoln made a Capri throughout the 1950's. By the late 50's the car was wild in design with a big V8 I think the line ran into the 1960's. Other names were Cosmopolitan, Mark II (hand made and priced out of the market), Continental, Premiere, Lido (I've never seen a Lido but I understand they exist), Custom, I think the Zephyr discontinued around 1949? Go further back into the early 30's and Lincoln used letters, like L, then the K, or KB when the V12 was introduced.
  • dclsdcls Posts: 32
    Yeah, it was the service rep when I checked in at the LM dealer.
  • sniemietzsniemietz Posts: 40
    Thanks guys for the help. I was able to get the cover off using the method ya'll described.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Some service advisors are morons, who know nothing about cars and just bluff you if they can. I could tell you stories...........
  • gunnersmategunnersmate Posts: 243
    No doubt. I feel fortunate to have this venue where I can communicate with fellow owners and shade tree mechanics. Sometimes it helps just to get your concerns or questions out in the open.

    I'd like to take the opportunity to thank all of you for listening and more importantly for replying. Sometimes it is hard to troubleshoot a problem objectively becasue automobile ownership can get quite emotional.
  • kourykoury Posts: 225
    My '00 LS8 is having flaky problems that the dealer can't fix. While running the AC, hot air will blow from the right side and right middle vents, warm air blows from the left middle vent, and cold air blows from the left side vent. This is intermitant, but is happening more frequently, and even occurs when the AC is off. My local dealer hooked it up to a machine today (tried to charge $73 diagnostic fee)and said they couldn't see anything wrong (of course it worked fine while there).

    Any insight?
  • ezaircon4jcezaircon4jc Posts: 793
    This has happened to others. IIRC, it is a sticky blend door valve.
  • dclsdcls Posts: 32
    Well, you guys were right. I called back the dealer to question the service person, and when he checked, aploigized for not realizing that the '01 LS does not have air suspension. (Don't know about later models). Thanks for the feedback.
  • v8lincolnguyv8lincolnguy Posts: 273
    No LS has(or ever had) an air suspension unless it was aftermarket. The guy must have been mistaking your car for a Town Car as they do have these and yes, you can hear it when you first start the car. I had an 89 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Touring Sedan that also had this feature and made a similar noise.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I guess it's expecting a lot for the service advisor to know the cars he services and the dealership sells. But we do......
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    additional evidence that not even dealership personnel know what an LS is. It's no wonder their customers don't. It's only been five years.

    Interesting owning a car that's so well known & respected. . .or not.

    Talk about a sleeper. The LS is more like a coma.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    so much as "underrated by the masses". It has more of a niche following (even on these boards) than about anything else I know. If you have one, you love 'em. Hell, I don't even have one, and I love 'em!!
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,935
    "can hear it when you first start the car. "

    Soooo - that was the sound I heard when I started the TC I am driving today. From Enterprise - LS is in for service.
    - Ray
    Glad for a free loaner - not so happy driving a TC in Atlanta metro traffic . . .
    2016 BMW 340i
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,019
    I used to hate getting TCs. I'd rather have a Focus.

    At World in Alpharetta I've gotten a 4 door F150 and an Expedition the last 2 visits. We used Billy Howell in Cumming for the Aviator and got a LS.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I LOVE getting a Town Car loaner or rental. Last Town Car I rented had 40 miles on it. I think I was the first, or at least second driver it had. Although it was not the Ultimate, which is the one I like, it was a nice ride, and new is a beautiful thing. They are quite nimble in traffic, IMO, but then, I'm used to a Navigator, so they are small to me I guess. Just wish they had more blower in the A/C and the DOHC 4.6L 300 HP motor in them. IF they did, I'd buy one.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,019
    Nimble in traffic? Compared to what - a school bus? You need to get out of that Navigator every once in a while.......
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    If you haven't looked at the Town Car recently, look again... Hehe...

    Actually it's not as bloaty as it previously was. The fine tuning in the suspension last year won't leave you with that bloated, bulky, behemoth feel. The rear end won't twitch back at you, when your doing evasive manuevers. If anything, it's suspension feel will be as that of a Taurus for example... NOT that the Taurus excels in nimble feel, but I'm giving you an example of how it feels relative to it's size.

    Granted, the Marauder's suspension tuning would be greatly appreciated but reality, do we really want grandpa/grandma to feel THAT confident in their Town Car?

    I second the 4.6L 3V, don't be suprised to see such a revision in the next 2 years.... Ahem...
  • lobsenzalobsenza Posts: 619
    I was given a 2003 when my LS was in for service. I didn't think much of it, but it was an improvement from the prior generation and was tolerable for a day or 2.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Admittedly, the T/C is no LS by any stretch (no pun intended there), but I seriously like the handling of the Town Car these days, and for the size (akirby, note the qualifier) I think it handles quite well. I drive one aggressively, and it's there for me. Not at all, the land yacht of yesteryear. That's what I'm saying.

    And since you brought it up....I drove an 04 Escalade my Lincoln dealer happened to have on the used lot today for an errand while he was washing my Navigator up. I was amazed at how much better the Navigator handles and rides. Add that objective opinion to the lack of features and style inside, and I am at a loss to understand why an unbiased buyer (some people are just plain Cadillac folks, you know) would chose the Escalade over the Navigator.

    Now, back to your regularly scheduled topic :)
  • rgnmstrrgnmstr Posts: 226
    I had the car back the other day to get the new front brakes and since I did not see any wet areas at the ends of the steering rack while under the car in my driveway I asked the service writer to show me the leaks while the car was on the lift. This is the same guy who told me my steering rack was leaking out both ends when I was complaining about valve cover gasket leaks. We went over to the car and there were no leaks at the ends of the rack and the guy working on the car confirmed this. The mechanic got a mirror from his toolbox and checked the valve covers and VOLA he said the valve cover gaskets were leaking. I'm thinking was this @#%$ service writer jerk trying to sell me a $700 steering rack replacement job? Where did he get his leak info from? Suppose I just said OK to the job and still had the leaking valve covers? I have sort of lost my faith in the dealership service dept.
       There was a very small amount of wetness around a big nut located about 1/3rd of the way across the steering rack from the driver's side. If anything came out of here it certainly couldn't make it to the exhaust manifold to cause smoke in front of the driver's windshield. Does anyone know what this is and if it might be a problem? The mechanic said it was an adjustment for steering play and that there was an 0 ring used to seal it. The service writer said he had to find out if there was a kit to replace the 0 ring. The mechanic said to not worry about it but to not tell anybody he told me that.
       In conclusion the mechanic who is also an LS fan told me the valve cover leak problem is caused by a defect in the passenger side valve cover which causes pressure to build up and since the two valve covers are connected by a hose the pressure causes the driver's side valve cover to leak. So the fix (TSB) calls for the passenger side valve cover to be replaced and the driver's side gasket to be replaced. Very time consuming job. Around 4-5 hours because of all the stuff that has to be moved out of the way. It's a $600 job. The service writer being aware of the fact I knew about the TSB has offered to knock all but $250 off the cost of the repair. Sorry for the lengthly post but I've gotten a lot of good information off this board and felt I wanted to leave some for once. I won't be buying a steering rack.
  • funkcityfunkcity Posts: 100

    I cannot find that TSB anywhere.

    What is the date and TSB number?

    <<<< the two valve covers are connected by a hose >>>> Not true.

    I would change both valve covers, all the gaskets, o-rings and grommets, spark plugs and rubber boots if I had to do it all over again!
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