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Chrysler 300M



  • splattsplatt Posts: 328
    Actually, Mike has been spending a lot of time at another board I'm not allowed to mention here...
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273

    I have only seen pics of the G35 in red, but I love the looks. If the BOSE is like the one I had in my J-30, it will be a winner. I'm not in the market yet- another 22 months to go! ;-))

    Then again, I have almost $3,000 in credit on my GM MasterCard, so I may have to look at the Cadillac CTS with the V-8 when the time comes.

    So many cars, so many choices! ;-))

    Glad your car has recuperated from it's big yellow bus encounter. Did the "5-STAR" fix it?

  • Tom,

    On long interstate trips with my '99 300m I was flirting with 30 mpg. If I used regular gas, kept the cruise on at about 65-70 mph and was not in the mountains I could reliably get 28+ mpg. Sadly THAT 300m was totaled by a red light runner on 10/26.

    Yesterday I purchased a replacement. I got a 1999 Inferno Red 300m w/PHP. It has 28k on the clock. I drove a special but was not impressed. I drove a Pro-Am but was not impressed. I looked for a 2001 Inferno Red w/ PHP and Lux group but could not find one.

    BTW are you the same Ton that came to the Wall Speedway event late? I was the Inferno Red '99 on the track that night.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    I will see what I can do .
  • one benefit Edmunds has over the other board is the Message center---once you log in, you can bookmark messages of importance to you. Then you can go to the message center at a later date to find those special messages. I have bookmarked several posts that had what I felt was important information This is basically one long forum. It is easier to find where you left off last time you were at the board. I myself read both boards and post as I feel I have an answer to someones question or have a question to ask.

    Edmunds has some benefits and some drawbacks but its still very useful. No reason both boards can't coexist. Both boards could learn from each other's benefits and drawbacks. I know I have referenced Edmunds on that other board as being a useful site too. Pat has a point of emphasizing the rule to not overpromote another board. But its easy enough to find anything on the internet by doing a search. If someone wants to search for other boards, its easy enought to find them. This is the internet afterall and competition is healthy .
  • nc300mnc300m Posts: 24
    I want to replace my stock tires (225/15/17) with 255/50/17. I have read that a lot of M owner use 245/50/17 there is very little difference in the size will it fit my 99 300M. The price for the tire I want is 117.00 for 255/50/17, but the cheapest tire I want in 245/50/17 is about 200.00

    Has anyone tired the 255/50/17 if so did you have any problems?

    Discount tire only rec. 245/50/17.
  • blondablonda Posts: 542
    If Tire Rack carries the tire you are looking at, you can go into the "specs" for the tire and it will tell you if it will fit on a 7" rim -- some brands aren't recommended for that small a width and I haven't heard of anyone squeezing a 55 on the Razorstars.

    The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S are probably the $200 ones you are referring to in the 245/50/17 size. I tried to get those but after I was told Michelin couldn't provide them for at least 10 weeks I went with the 235/55's which I'm happy with (a little wider but keeps the wheel wells filled up - and the tires are by far worth the $$). Goodrich Comp TA Scorchers I believe also come in the 245/50 size and they even have a "black" stripe now (so you don't have to get that colored tread). There are at least 1-2 M owners who have those and are happy with them.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,094
    No, my bro-in-law did the work. He's worked in autobody for 20 years, did a real nice job. Now the front half of the car looks brand new, the rear only looks nearly new.

    Re: the CTS. When I first saw it before Production release, I thought it was too ugly and would be revised. Nope. At official release, still ugly, mostly the front and rear end. Over time, I've softened my stance a bit, still not my cup o' tea but it's grown (ever so slightly) on me. At the NEI Auto Show I sat in one with a window sticker of $40,000+. The interior needs a serious upgrade, especially at that price point. At $10k less, I find the interior of the M a much classier place. I'm sure that the CL would put the CTS interior to shame, too. This is just the subjective, superficial stuff, I've never driven one. The actual driving may make (imho) this pigs ear into a silk purse...

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    That is just outside the remended size. 245/50 17 would be the extent (and not all dealers would even install that size tire on the stock rim.
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    I added a few more showing the install and actual HID pattern. under exterior electral mods. The last two show the Pattern. It matches the Halagen pattern except for the amount of light. So the placement of the capsul is critical, so that it matches the exact placement of the Halagen filiment.
  • beach15beach15 Posts: 1,305
    Anyone from South California interested in a little experimenting?

    Go here:

  • toms99toms99 Posts: 252
    Yes, I'm the guy who showed up at the last minute at Wall Stadium! Made it just in time for the laps around the track!! And yes, I do remember your car.....

    First of all, thank goodness your alive and well after being creamed by the light-runner....Shows our cars do offer some crash protection. I'm sure you were sad to see your "baby" totalled, but you have to keep on repeating to yourself, "It's just a car...."

    You were lucky to find a 99 with such low mileage....I have a short daily commute and I'm at 44K with my 99.

    I've never even seen a Special or Pro-Am at my dealer...What didn't you like about them????

  • 300michael - so who is the mystery supplier and what is the cost?
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    The cost was 370 dollars. If ten want to purchase the kit then it goes to 350. You do have to alter the base though, but after that is cone will work like an XS bulbe base. You have to be good with a motor tool for it to work though. I will have more on the company later.
  • Tom,

    I guess I expected more out of the Special. It DID corner like it was on rails and looked great on the outside. However

    I did not care for the carbon fiber trim.

    I thought the acceleration was no better than my non PHP '99

    I thought the seats were very inferior to the seats in the regular 300m.

    All 3 Specials that I drove had a very unsettling 1-2 shift for the first cold shift. (This was at two different dealers).

    All 3 Specials that I drove had a vibration that was unpleasant.

    All 3 Specials had the problematic AC suffix AMP

    I could not get it in Inferno Red

    I could not get the luxury package

    As far as the Pro Am was concerned I was hot for the golf clubs and bag but

    I again did not like the dash trim (aluminum this time)

    I thought the exterior badge looked hokey.

    I thought the upper speakers mounted on the doors looked very cheesy on all the 2002 models.

    The absolute best reason for buying the '99 was that when we sat in it we felt like we had come home. Remember that it is Identical to the car that was totaled except for the PHP. It was a very comfortable experience for us. When we sat in it we both seemed to say ahhhh.

  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    How do you like the matching turn signals to match.
  • mrl859mrl859 Posts: 168
    Is that car flat primer grey?
  • just talked to tony for a little bit on aim, just brought back some great memories.

    you guys a hella group of ppl, and is pat still moderating this board? believe it or not, i miss her too. haha just kidding pat you were always my fav :)

    fastdriver, otto, tom, bigmike, glen, mike, tony, just to name a few, is jason still on here? ha i remember when i was changing brake pads and i slipped off the stool, smacking the wrench of the caliper, loosened the nut and WHOOSH brake fluid all over the place. try getting your mom to help you bleed the brakes....mad fun.

    but anyway im gonna be back daily, and i dont remember, did i show you guys that tailight thing i did?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    scouterdon -

    If you have a 99 300M, the color is Candy Apple Red. The Inferno Red came out later- 2000, I think.


    Always looked forward to your pics and mods! I remember that brake story! ;-)) Too bad about the NSX, but that's not a very practical every day driving car for work or school- is it? 20,000 miles and 20 months on my car and no problems! Runs like a top. Everything works and nothing has fallen off or broken YET!! ;-)) Just plain old 'boring".

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Good to have you back, av. :)

    (just don't forget where the "picture posting" discussion is! ;->)
  • of course pat, i remember :)

    quick question, can i post two pics of my bike up here?

    fastdriver the NSX was awesome, purely awesome. i dont think i will drive a better sports car than that. orignal vtec motor, with brakes almost as good as a bike. 6pistion brembo's...drool...

    it took off from 120 like you were standing still. mid engine was awesome to work on, tons of room to mount ps2 in the trunk :) but...right now, it just didnt go with me. and the bank loans oh god *puts head down and sobs. just dont ask. but i made a tiny profit off of it so im happy, i'll definitely try to get one later one day perhaps. ok your making me miss it too much.

    my new project is a 1990 ford bronco II yessss. it was out of tornado country, oak tree chopped its roof off. so the guy rebuilt it, and then another tree fell on it. pat can i post a pic up here? just one pleeeeeeez. well actually heres a link..\index.html

    so im gonna be doing some work to that, got it for $400 cant beat that. 100k miles but i wanna put a triton v8, sometimes you just have to love ford :):):) new drivetrain, clutch, brakes, wheels tires maybe some paint. it books for 4900. i just wish it wasnt so butt ugly, but it kinda grows on ya.

  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    I hope you still have your Beauty Shop (for cars) and am looking forward to your (I hope lots)pictures. Just don't put the 300M's front on that BroncoII ;)
  • scouterdon,

    I agree with you on the carbon fiber trim and the straight line acceleration. They don't move out any better than any other 300M. I think I would have preferred the look and ambience of wood over the carbon fiber too. The money was obviously spent on the handling. I've had the opportunity to drive several 300M's since 1999 and have always enjoyed them. The Special is a much better handler for a not significant sacrifice in ride quality, assuming you snag one that doesn't vibrate. If you look back a ways in the posts here, you'll find a great discussion on this very issue. It's a wheel/tire balance problem. Mine did the same thing and after a great deal of effort, my dealer was able to fix it. My car now rides as smooth as glass and I enjoy it much more. In all honesty, I'm not impressed that the cars were released with this defect and many dealers try to pass it off as normal due to the 18-inch wheels and low profile Pilot Sports. Naturally, it makes sense that a car riding on stiff low profile performance rubber is going to ride harder and transmit more through to the driver, but this issue is well beyond that and is definitely NOT normal. Don't let anyone try to convince you it's normal.

    I traded an '01 Camaro SS with an optional SLP Bilstein suspension package for my Special. I knew I was making a HUGE trade-off in straightline punch and figured I'd be giving up quite a bit in handling and braking too. I've been VERY pleasantly surprised at how well my Special drives. It doesn't move out with the authority of the Camaro of course, but it does well enough for what I need right now. However, it handles every bit as well as my SS did and that's no BS. I've strafed a few of my most favorite decreasing radius highway offramps with this car and it's been every bit as composed and stable as the SS was at the same speeds. The brakes are WAY better than my SS. This car stops with authority NOW. The pedal is firmer, the feel is stronger, and they don't get tired as quickly, even though the Special is a heavier car. I have a good friend with an SS who rags me in jest all the time because I've commented on the Special's handling. I've offered many times to let him drive it, but he hasn't accepted yet. The handling on this car is good enough to surprise alot of people and I think maybe he's afraid I might be right. I wouldn't say if it weren't true.

    I also agree with you on the transmission. When in "D", it holds the gears way too long before making the upshifts and it hunts around too much between 35-45 mph. When it's cold, I drive it in autostick mode because I don't like driving it at a sustained 3500-4000 rpms just after it's first been started on a very cold morning. I've noticed in autostick mode that at part throttle operation, the 2-3 upshift is very jarring and you can really feel the drivetrain wobble with the force of the upshift. It also revs too high at highway speeds. Maybe I was spoiled with my 6th gear in the SS. That car was only taching about 1700 rpm at 70mph in 6th. The 300M really needs that 5spd auto. That's really the only gripe I have with the car. I love the exterior styling. I've always loved the look of the 300M. There really isn't anything else quite like it on the road, but I felt it was missing just a little something. The lower cladding is just enough and is tastefully done. The 1/2-inch lowering and big 18-inch wheels and tires fill the wheel-wells just right and give the car the hunkered down look it needs. I saw an '03 Special in Black at the New England Auto Show in Boston last weekend and it had the 17-inch chromies on it and a rear wing. That definitely didn't work IMHO.
  • Finally got around to looking at your pictures at sd's site(how's he do that)? Car looks great on pictures. Does it look that good close up??I like your duels don't worry I took mine back twice beore I got the sound I was looking for.I see you put on the wind deflectors too I like them look good.Got the right emblem and put it on mine also.Hey I found that list with all the parts listed that you gave us,that would have saved me a little aggra.I also thought about the hats but all the others that were not in her group heard about it and signed up for them also and I just figured no way was she going to get that many.Got almost 30k on my 01 already and if I keep this up I'll be in the same boat as you, buying a new one and working a couple more years.Later
  • jab02lhsjab02lhs Posts: 122
    What? A 300M with a mesh grille and blue turn signals and none of you guys have any comments? I thought I read several posts from M guy's looking for just that type of grille. Here's your chance the design work is done just flood them with requests.
  • ajpiiiajpiii Posts: 260
    Already sent an email asking them if I could buy one of those grills... Id buy the hood too if they would sell it... Then have Av put his scoop on it :) I love the Nitrous bottle in the rear window...

    More pics of it can be found here:

  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    I like the grille, the color and the hood, but I like my headlamps and clear (lens) turn signals much better. My hood is not bad eather.
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