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2012 Genesis Sedans

wamba2000wamba2000 Posts: 146
Just picked up my 2012 Genesis, 2nd unit this model year delivered from my dealer. Got the 3.8 w. Premium package, it is a very good option package. Likes/Dislikes so far:
Like: power is great, 8 speed A/T is so smooth, the car turn just over 2000rpm at 75mph in 8th gear. Ride is very quiet for the most part, and it seems better tuned than the 09 Genesis I have ridden in. the 14 speaker Lexicon system is amazing!
Dislikes: only noise I get is from the Michelin tires, will see if it improves; hate that dealers pre-install the "packs" of grossly overpriced tint, sealant, etching and nitrogen air in tires. I got most of it taken out of the deal.

Lease money rate was about 4% fyi. I managed to start the negotiations at invoice, and there was a $1500 rebate for current Hyundai owners which was a plus.

So far I am impressed with build quality and ride/handling. Will post later once more experience.


    What color combo did you get? What were the final numbers if you don't mind me asking?
  • wamba2000wamba2000 Posts: 146
    edited June 2011
    LaShawn, I got the Platinum ( light silver) with black interior.

    Pricing - had them to start with Invoice, which I got from the through american express. For the 3.8 w Premium pkg, it was like 37400. Add the greatly reduced amount for their pre-installed "pack" ($500) and then apply the $1500 Hyundai owner rebate. I also traded in a 2006 Azera so that went toward cap reduction.

    Of course when you see the 36 mo lease agreement, the numbers all seem different, but residual after 36 mo was like 24K and the money factor was at 4%.

    I had to negotiate to get there, after being repeatedly told that there was no way they would start at invoice. I have bought 3 other Hyundais and know that drill. If you have a dealer that is in the program, use that as a bargaining chip. As I understand, they have to honor the price that zag shows, and I am sure they pay a fee for the referral coming through. When they wouldn't come down to invoice, I said I would just take the 3 bids form and see who came in lowest. Not what they want to hear when you are sitting there and they know you are serious.

    Hope that helps
  • dutton22dutton22 Posts: 6
    So does work with leasing? I'm interested in leasing a model and wasn't sure if you leased your current car.

    Thanks in advance
  • wamba2000wamba2000 Posts: 146
    Dutton, I used the details to help set invoice to be used as cap cost for my lease. My dealer started out with the "we can't do a 2012 at invoice" in our negotiation, so I used the zag cost and said I would use it and get bids from 3 dealers to negotiate. I think the dealers have to accept the zag numbers to be int he program and likely pay a fee for the reerral.

    It was a help.

    Good luck in your lease....what are you looking to get?
  • dutton22dutton22 Posts: 6
    Thanks for the advice. I'm looking at getting a 2012 Genesis with the premium package. I'm working with the leasing specialist and will keep you posted.

    Thanks again, your post has been a great help.
  • wamba2000wamba2000 Posts: 146
    If you want a 3.8, they are getting onto the lots in good numbers, more on the coasts first. the 4.6 is due within the next 30 days. I read elsewhere that the 5.0 R-Spec is 30-60 days out.
    Good luck
  • rance2rance2 Posts: 39
    Just winding up first week with new 3.8 with Premium package. Could not be more delighted! The learning curve is a bit daunting given the "bells & whistles", but fun to find out something new everyday. Traded a 2007 Azera Ltd. w/54K mileage. Negotiated purchase price of $35,904 with a trade-in of $13,000 and the Loyalty discount of $1,500. Did not know to get the $500 spiff on the tire enhancements. Only concern is the Michelin tires as I had a major noise problem with the Azera. So far it seems OK, but I may be more forgiving than others with better :) hearing.
  • wamba2000wamba2000 Posts: 146
    Rance, sorry, I don't know about the tire spiff? Can you post details?
    I had Michelin MXV4 on a 2006 Azera and they were shot in 20,000 miles of very non-aggressive driving (my wife).

    The only noise I hear at highway speed in the Genesis is tire noise.
  • veragenveragen Posts: 34
    Hi car readers / seekers, I was driving dusk hours on I-95N from a VA-beach wknd. trip, and I’m looking in my rearview-mirror thinking there’s an Audi A-car riding behind me, but then the car quickly brisk past me and then thought it’s an Infiniti-M? So I later drove to a rest stop for gas and I saw two new 2012 Genesis (beige V6 & midnite blue V8) sedans. I must say those LED-lights and the grille-fascia improve & change a whole new ball game in this car type-segment. Both Gens had Zoom-out from rest stop, again quickly! This Genesis is a sharp car :shades: !
    Has anyone seen the 2012 Hyundai Genesis sedan on the road/highway? Is there any potential buyer /owner received low price-quote? Possibly under invoice-price from dealership (trim-level, color, V6 or V8) in the NY, CT, north NJ-central metro area or PA (philly-south Jersey), DE, MD bal-dc metro area. Please text or pic-post most recent experience of ’12 Genesis-sedan (CPO ’09 -’11 as well) Thx. VeraGen
  • After much shopping, I bought my 2012 Genesis 3,8 w/tech pkg last week.
    I looked at Audi (peddles to close together)
    Infiniti M 37 (not crazy about the mileage and runs only on premium fuel) Linclon MKZ hybrid (not enough front leg room; and I thought the material were cheap)

    I traded in my 2007 Infiniti M35; the Genesis had at least 15 more features and ran on regular gas and got better mileage. It was as close to a "No Brainer" as you could get.

    I'm just getting settled into the car... only 300 miles on it but I'm loving the it. Not sure how long I have to drive it before I start getting the advertised mileage, but again I haven't gone thur the initial tank of gas yet :-)

    Great Car!
  • toyetoye Posts: 351
    Had my 09' Genesis Tech V-6 since April 09' I've got 32k on it changed tires at 28K other than a few minor things that were taken care of by the dealership it has been smooth sailing ever since. Lease is up in April 2012 and I will be purchasing it. Still turns heads and is still in mint condition.
  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 366
    edited October 2011
    2012 Genesis 3.8. A nice car in many ways, but it is missing, in a big way, by not offering a very important safety feature, a blind-spot monitoring system/sensor that a lot of the competition in this price range has, including the less expensive 2012 toyota camry. Until this is offered, I will not buy one of these cars. Any idea when Hyundai will be offering this on the Genesis 3.8 sedan?
  • wamba2000wamba2000 Posts: 146
    edited October 2011
    Ushy, the Technology package does have a Lane Departure warning system, which helps if the driver should go over the lane markers. I have a '12 and have no issues with big blind spots
  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 366
    edited October 2011
    Wamba2000, thanks for your reply, but a lane departure warning system, and a blind-spot monitor/system address different safety issues.
  • ohstewohstew Posts: 2
    I'm shamed to admit it, but it took my 40 years to realize there is a way to adjust your car's mirrors to eliminate all bind spots.

    No fancy warning system needed.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,652
    No fancy warning system needed

    I have my own warning system, its called my eyes! I am looking at cars recently and seeing more and more blind spot alerts, cross traffic alerts, lane departure warnings etc. How much more do they want to dumb down driving, and what if you start to rely on this BS too much and drive a car without it?

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

    What ever happened to turning your head to look at oncoming traffic before you merge into the next lane or better yet, use the power mirrors.
  • rance2rance2 Posts: 39
    What's your secret to adjust mirrors to eliminate all blind spots?
  • rance2rance2 Posts: 39
    I have a 2012 Genesis Sedan. The dashboard monitor that shows the average mpg seems to register about 1 gallon more than I calculate after filling the tank. Your experience(s), please.
  • I am considering a 2012 Genesis 3.8. During my road test I noticed quite a bit of road/tire noise even at low speeds. Is this an issue and or is a change in tires a solution?
  • rance2rance2 Posts: 39
    I have just passed the 5K mark in mileage with lots of high speed freeway and around the town travel. Have not experienced road/tire noise. LOVE the car. However, I had a 2004 Azera LTD with considerable tire noise. Factory equipped tires were some Michelin model that is no longer offered. Finally gave up and invested $1K in a new set at 24K miles.
  • Jay, I have had my Genesis 3.8 Premium since mid-June, I think the only noise running is from the tires. They are 18" Michelin tires that are designed to have low rolling resistance and save energy; key is that means less handling and harder rubber compound in my experience.

    I expect when the tires are changed out, the ride may quiet a bit.

    The road noise seems a function of the road surface you are driving on rather than the tires, Go ahead, if that is the only noise you hear, you can just turn the sound system (the Lexicon is pretty good!) up a little to offset the road noise.
  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 366
    edited January 2012
    Blind Spot Monitor-When? Update

    The latest issue of Motor Trend (2/2012) has an interesting article (page 28) by Ron Kiino that addresses the importance of a blind spot warning system/sensor. This safety feature is currently available on premium brands such as Acura, Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Mercedes, Lincoln, and Volvo. It is also being made available on some non-premium brands such as the Toyota Camry, Honda and Nissan minivans, Ford Taurus and others. According to Kiino Hyundai and VW are currently working on theirs, but as of now no news on when it will be available for Hyundai. Hopefully the 3.8 Genesis sedan will offer one of these systems similar to the one in Mercedes in the near future!
  • Properly adjusted mirrors eliminate the need for a blind spot monitor because there is no blind spot.
  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 366
    I and many others would disagree.
  • I and many others and Car and Driver agreee

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  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 366
    edited March 2012
    While I agree with you as does Consumer Reports (page 31 of the just released 2012 April Auto Issue) that the 2012 3.8 Genesis Sedan is a remarkable car, 'best upscale sedan' for 2012, outscoring the Lexus ES 350 and the Toyota Avalon (all three of these vehicle currently do not have a blind spot detection system, but Toyota/Lexus will be adding one soon since the newly redesigned 2012 Camry now has a pretty good one). I and Consumer Reports (and many others, including Motor Trend editors) disagree with your position that a blind spot warning system/sensor is NOT necessary (see pages 13 1nd 23 of the April 2012 Auto Issue).

    Also, consider the following:
    1.) Our baby boomer generation is increasing tremendously every day; when people age they do not have the good range of motion they had in their youth to make good torsional movements to turn their head to check traffic clearance and/or blind spots as they did previously, to make safe lane changes at freeway speeds when cars overtaking them which can come out of no where extremely fast, etc.
    2.) Also many non-senior drivers may have restricted range of motion issues due to neck and/or back injuries or disabilities that do not prevent them from driving but that can make their driving experience unsafe when they cannot check their blind spots effectively, even if their side and rear-view mirrors are adjusted to the best possible angle.
    Given just these two examples it is quite clear that the blind spot detection systems/sensors would make the driving experience so much safer for so many, and to all of us sharing the road with them.

    So, when, not if, Hyundai adds a good blind spot detection system/sensor, it will make an already excellent car so much better and safer.

    Hyundai---When will this happen? I hope soon!
  • cpamancpaman Posts: 42
    A little off topic but i was wondering, i heard some rumblings about Hyundai making an AWD Genesis sedan, is there any truth to that? If so, when will this happen?
    For next generation Genesis, maybe around 2014-15
  • I made no comments specifically on the Genesis sedan. I merely stated that with properly adjusted mirrors there is no blind spot and thus no need for a blind spot monitoring system. Proplerly adjusted mirrors do not require any out of the ordinary range of motions or any significant torsional movements for proper use. Any driver with properly adjusted mirrors can use them properly.
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