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2012 - 2013 Toyota Avalon



  • solara01solara01 Posts: 4
    I have a 2013 Avalon Limited with Tech Pack, Floor Mats, Cargo Net, and Mud Flaps. Sticker is $42,500. I paid $38,900. Like anything it is a preference of taste. The Avalon doesn't compete with the Volvo S60 and I have not been in one to compare but I am familiar with Volvo products and you can't go wrong.

    I think the reason the Avalon won out was because of resale value. My loaded 2001 Solara that I paid $20,000 for is still worth $7,000. I am a Tech guy, it took me almost a week to go through all of the features in this car. That is part of the issue when buying a new car. You can not tell how user friendly the electronics are from a test drive. The Avalon is almost all touch sensitive buttons. They are well laid out and responsive. There is nothing cheap in this car. You can feel and touch the quality through out. This is why it is rated better than their sister Lexus ES series.

    I will now address the seats and ride. I also thought that the seats needed a bit more cushy in the tushy. I went on a 300 mile road trip and I was very comfortable. I am 6' and 250lbs. so I think I am a good judge and I no longer have a complaint. The ride, handling and acceleration is very good.
    Even with a full load this car moves. It is no longer a floating sofa and therefor you have to trade something for that performance. It handles pot holes very well but under some road conditions it can be a bit harsh.

    In most cases the new car experience wears off. Not here! I look forward to getting into this car everyday!
  • I was in the automobile business years ago when radial tires first started showing up on automobiles. Cars which were designed for radials rode and handled very well compared to the bias ply tires how ever if radials were used on cars whose suspensions were not "tuned" for there use were,to be kind a disapointment. My point here if up want the best performence in ride and handling you suspension and tires must be carefully matched to each other. It is obvious Toyota has failed in this area as you have so carefully documented. I experienced this first hand in my last Lexus a GS300. The car I drove had Michelins and the car I bought had Bridgestones. The difference was so startling I returned the car before I got 20 miles on it thinking something was terribly wrong with the it. Had tires swapped for Michlens and the difference was incredible. I bought a Touring model and made sure it had Michelins on it and think the car has a reasonable compromise between handling and overall ride quality. Thanks for you leg work and input reminding me of my previous experience and giving potential customers a heads up on this matter.
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 123
    Glad you're happy with your 2013 Avalon. This is the first time since the early 90's that I don't have a Toyota in my garage - 1 Camry and 2 Avys during that time. I think I was just ready to try something totally new before someone has to do all of my driving for me!! Hopefully, that's a few more new cars away.
  • havechavec Posts: 45
    The 2013 Avalon Limited Consumer Reports review finally came out to day. They rated the V6 limited at 85 and the hybrid at 86. For the record they rated the Camry hybrid at 93. The most damming statement was "Most $25,000 midsized sedans ride better". They were the first to say that the 18 inch wheels had a worse ride than the 17 inch even though they gave the same "open circle" good rating for the ride in both the 18 inch wheel V6 and the 17 inch wheel hybrid. Go figure.

    I'm a little mad at CR because I asked them just before I purchased my limited hybrid if they were going to test the Avalon and they emailed me back that they were not planning on testing the Avalon. The next day after I made the purchase the first drive report came out saying that they had purchased a limited hybrid and a V6 for testing.

    The 2011 Avalon that they last tested had the same score of 85 and their major complaint was the handling.

    You have to subscribe on line to see the article.
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  • adler223adler223 Posts: 7
    Just purchased an avalon limited hybrid and ended up buying the prepaid maintneance plan for 1760. Concerned that I made a mistake buying this. What do you think. It would cover year 3-5. Thanks.
  • douglas1douglas1 Posts: 130
    Am sorry to say that you got taken. You could have purchased the exact same Toyota plan online from a dealer in Kansas for about half that much. It's been discussed here numerous times. I purchased a 6 year 75,000 mile extended warranty for my 2011 Avalon for only $450.00.
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 591
    Scroll or search back thru this board for info on Extended Warranty. Prior post is correct, there are many dealers who sell this warranty under 1k. You can buy from any Toyota dealer, do not buy "outlaw" warranty coverage from a non-dealer. Glad you asked, this board has has saved people thousands on this product.... enjoy your savings...
  • adler223adler223 Posts: 7
    Do you happen to know the name of the person you got the warranty from. Not too latre for me to cancel.
  • douglas1douglas1 Posts: 130
    Here is email I received:

    This is Jerry Johnson Warranty Manager with Midwest Toyota

    And Midwest Superstore Hutchinson, Ks

    Thank you very much for your request on the Toyota Factory Extra Care Platinum Zero Deductible Warranty

    I would love to help you with your warranty purchase. I will need your Vin Number, Miles and Date of Purchase

    And I will need Your Name and Address, Phone, Email

    Please give me a call at 800-530-5789 or my cell 620-664-8844

    This warranty is 100 Percent Toyota Factory warranty from Toyota and honored by all Toyota Dealer service centers California, Florida and all the USA and Canada I do NOT offer any 3rd party or aftermarket at all

    There is no Tax or Fees for out of the state of Kansas

    Here is the link for the warranty info ehicleComparisonChartPage

    Here is the Price List for your 2013 Avalon

    Please tell your friend thank you for recommending me


    4 YEAR 100,000 MILES $569.00,

    4 YEAR 125,000 MILES $719.00

    5 YEAR 60,000 MILES $449.00

    5 YEAR 80,000 MILES $499.00,

    5 YEAR 100,000 MILES $679.00

    5 YEAR 125,000 MILES $874.00

    6 YEAR 75,000 MILES $549.00,

    6 YEAR 100,000 MILES $834.00,

    6 YEARS 125,000 MILES $1,129.00

    7 YEARS 75,000 MILES $654.00,

    7 YEAR 100,000 MILES $999.00

    7 YEARS 125,000 MILES $1,294.00

    8 YEARS 75,000 MILES $769.00

    8 YEARS 100,000 MILES $1,149.00

    8 YEARS 125,000 MILES $1,589.00

    This warranty is directly from Toyota and any warranty work will need to be done at your Toyota dealer or any Toyota dealer in your state or any state in the USA or Canada

    Please feel free to give me a call I would be happy to go over the warranty with you.

    Thank you so much

    Jerry Johnson

    Jerry Johnson

    Warranty Manager

    Midwest Toyota

    Midwest Ford

    Midwest Superstore

    1100 east 30th

    Hutchinson, Ks 67502


    Cell 620-664-8844
  • douglas1douglas1 Posts: 130
    I'm going to guess that if you take this info in to the dealer you bought from and tell him you want to cancel he will match the price and refund the difference. At least he will if he has any brains and wants a happy customer.
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 162
    Well...I'm confused. People are responding as if you bought the Extended Warranty and you said prepaid maintenance plan. Either way, you got juked. I agree with the others that there are great alternatives out there for the Extended Warranty and at the lower pricing, it might not be a bad idea for some; however, looking at the maintenance requirements on the hybrid (10K oil changes, low chance of needing brake pads, etc due to the e-braking/charging system doing most of the stopping for you, extended needs for changing any fluids in the eCVT transmission, I'd say if you actually got the prepaid maintenance, CANCEL IT immediately, then use 1/3 of what you get back to get one of these excellently priced extended warranties, and put the rest in an account, which will probably more than pay for any maintenance you might need over the next 5 years (except maybe for a set of tires...).
  • adler223adler223 Posts: 7
    Just cancelled the dealers plan. Got quotes from jerry. Around 600 for the 5 year 5500 maintenance plan. And around 1100 for the 8 year 100,000 mile warranty. does this sound good? The finance guy lied and said I could only purchase this stuff at the time I buy the car. Unbelievable!
  • havechavec Posts: 45
    edited May 2013
    Doesn't anybody here subscribe to Consumer Report online? At any rate, there are many more posts for the Avalon Owners Review on their site than for any other 2013 Toyota . The over all consensus of the owner's there on the ride is better than what CR has to say. I think that CR is mainly responding to the much firmer ride of the 2013 than previous Avalons. CR really liked the pillow soft ride of previous versions and hated to see it go.

    BTW the tires on my Limited Hydrid came over inflated from the dealer by 5 lbs. Dropping the pressure down to 32 psi has helped with over feeling the road.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    Correct, and I (and many others) miss the softer / cushier ride of earlier models as well.

  • havechavec Posts: 45
    They liked the handling a lot better on the 2013 than the 2011 so that is why it came out as a wash in the final score. The 2011's emergency handling was rated half dark circle poor and the routine handling as good. I don't know how much more cushy the 2013 Lexus ES's ride is. They rate the Camry's ride as being better but people on this forum think the Avalon rides better. Who know's what the answer is. I'm pretty happy with all the upsides.
  • aus1aus1 Posts: 20
    I traded an 08 for a 12 Avalon and immediately noticed a difference in handling but I prefer the way the 12 feels and corners. Yes, it's a little stiffer than the 08 and from what I gather perhaps a little better than the 13 model, but I had grown a little tired of the soft feel of the 08.
  • poorthingflintpoorthingflint Posts: 61
    edited May 2013
    Sure hope you checked your tire pressure as all these cars seem to come from the factory with 39-40lbs of air in them. Most of the dealers don't bother to check tire pressure. Any car will ride like a hay wagon with 6-7lbs of extra air in their tires! I know mine were over inflated and the difference of 33lbs of air and 39-40 lbs of air was startling. Big improvement!
  • Yes, tires were at 33 psi when I checked them after day one.

    I recently dropped it down to 31 psi, and that made a difference...maybe 20% better.
  • havechavec Posts: 45
    I guess they like to over inflate the tires at the factory for some odd reason. Yes, 31-32 psi is a lot better. Most of the time I think the ride is pretty sweet. Then I go over a weird road piece of and have second thoughts.

    The Camry hybrid has the exact same tires as the Avalon hybrid and is rated step higher in ride and routine handling by Consumer Reports. The noise rating is the same. What's up with that? The Avalon does get an extra step higher rating in seat comfort though.
  • rjohansonrjohanson Posts: 5
    I've had my 2013 Avalon Limited Hyrbid for two-plus months and after 1,800 miles I love it. Only complaint - the base on the JBL sound system booms so much that I've had to turn it to the lowest base setting, and even then it sometimes booms too much. Almost impossible to listen to classical music unless the base is essentially turned off. Has anyone else had this experience, and if so, has anyone done anything to make the base more normal? Otherwise, the car is magnificent. Mileage so far 44.2 mpg. More technology than I'll ever use but what I do use I like a great deal. The capacitive switches take some getting used to - have to keep your hand well above them when you're working on the screen or you'll trigger one by mistake. I suspect that Toyota will work to improve these on the next iteration. Any comments or suggestions about my booming base issue would be gratefully received.
  • aus1aus1 Posts: 20
    edited May 2013
    Cannot comment on the 2013 JBL system but I had a 08 Avalon with JBL and also set the bass very close to minimum. When I purchased my 2012, I decided to forgo JBL.
  • mcclearyflmcclearyfl Posts: 149
    My 2003 also has JBL. I was turning the bass almost to zero. Then in 2010 the woofer became faulty; I disconnected it, and now I can tolerate the bass.
  • rshockeyrshockey Posts: 1
    Try turning off Surround Sound. I did and find that all works much better with things sounding more like I would expect.
  • dwcdwc Posts: 6
    I recently noticed a strange feeling in the Avalon when going up a slight incline between 40 and 45 mph. It almost feels like a tire is out of balance. Took it to a Toyota dealer to get it checked out. The service manager drove it and felt the same sensation. He contacted Toyota and requested a case #. Toyota asked him to drive a 2013 Avalon Hybrid off the dealer's lot to see if he could duplicate the same problem. The one off the lot had exactly the same problem.

    Toyota says they are aware of this and call it G-force Instability.

    Any other Hybrid owners having this problem?
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 162
    Interesting. I tried to replicate what you wrote about with no luck....

    Is this just an issue with the Avalon Hybrid Limited, or is it all TAH's, or all '13 Avalon's, period?
  • dwcdwc Posts: 6
    The service manager says that it is just a hybrid issue.

    I asked if it was also an issue on the Camry hybrid. He said that it was not.

    Thanks for your response.
  • epoche1epoche1 Posts: 1
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  • robsisrobsis Posts: 162
    Just a note to any new Avalon buyers that Jerry Johnson at Midwest Superstore is the real deal. Great pricing and excellent service. Highly recommend that you check him out if you are looking for an extended warranty at a fair price. Super friendly, too.....but isn't that what you'd expect from someone from Kansas!!!
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