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Ford '99 Super Duty Delivery Issues
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By the way, this rig is AWSOME!! The only difficulty I've encountered is the length and learning to make sure I've got enough room to park, turn, etc.. The ride is great and the PSD is getting about 15 MPG right now, mostly city driving. I'm VERY happy with my purchase! Hope all of you are equally as pleased when you take delivery.
That's one of the stipulations I pointed out to checksix. As long as you agree to accepting a price increase, then the dealer is entitled to pass it on. Even in that instance, they should list the increases (invoice, MSRP, and what they intend to change your selling price to), and give you the option to accept or reject. That's just being fair on the dealer's part.
Actually, the cost of the airbag would not have been passed on to me because I ordered my truck with the Lariat package when it was considered standard equipment. Ford would not have charged the dealership more for any order placed prior to Ford changing their policy. However, I changed my order to a new truck (the dually). They could not enter the new order with the airbag.
On a side note, my patience will likely to start to weigh thin quick, even though I suspect I went to the back of the line since I reordered. I was made an offer I couldn't refuse and I sold my truck today. I'll be renting a car starting tomorrow. I'll be calling my dealer quite often.
All you have to do is buy the sales mgr. dinner once in a while and suck up a little bit and he will give you a top priority and you will get that truck in 6 weeks or so! HAHAHA
Mroffshore
Still no word!
Just an update. Ordered an F-250 XLT Crew Cab with V10 in Lt Prairie Tan on May 1 and it arrived July 16th!! Took delivery the 18th. It now has a whopping 76 miles on it and I love the ride. When signing the papers my salesman did mention the price increase but made no attempt to pass it on to me. Got the LT265 BSW tires and really like the looks of them as opposed to smaller tires. The V10 seems smooth and powerful. Am very surprised at how quiet the ride is. Having a little trouble with the keyless entry (works intermittently) which should be a fairly simple fix, but other than that I have no complaints. I'll post mpg when I figure it out.
Thanks!! JB
Has anyone else gotten closer than $400 difference in invoice and what the dealer wants?
BTW, I know that Isbell Ford will do it for $99 under. I factored the cost of airfare, fuel, time, and mileage (1700 miles) and thought a dealer would have to come down to $28,000 to balance out Isbell. So far, the dealer is $400 over the difference.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Ryan
I bought an F250 XLT Supercab, LWB, V10, 4x4, Offroad pkg, keyless entry, dual pwr mirrors,
captains chairs, 6way pwr drivers seat, trailer
towing pkg, 265/75 tires and spare, passenger airbag, 5 speed, privacy glass,CD & Cassette, Trailer hitch, & Sliding rear window. It invoiced for $26,100 and they sold it to me for $26,600. The holdback is built into the invoice so you should not allow for it. They usually sell for $49 over invoice, but on the 99's they want $500 over invoice. I bought it from Turnpike Ford in Marmet WV. It took 7 weeks from when the order was places.
Hope you have better luck with the SOF than I did. After 3 months and 5,000 miles I got tired of fighting with the dealer about vibrations and problems with the SOF. It sometimes kicked in at odd times (50-60 MPH) on dry pavement (ouch). Then I got stuck a few times when it wouldn't work at all. The front end would bind in close turns with the hubs in AUTO.
The truck is now sitting on the dealer's lot pending legal action.
On a more positive note - I liked the truck otherwise so much I bought another one - Obviously without SOF.
BTW...250 miles now on the 250 PSD...have yet to fuel up...will post mileage ASAP...Still can't believe how smooth the truck rides! Also the sound system is awesome...AM/FM CD & Cassette.
-MikeF150
I read in another website that the engine gets loud around peak rpm. I want to say that I read that was between 2,300 rpm until about 2,800 rpm. It's very quiet above and below that rate. The post I read was about the V-10, not the V-8.
Your dealer says Lariat models are on hold and my dealer says my Lariat order is clean and has no holds. Sounds like I'm getting B.S. or have an uninformed dealer.
What were your reasons for going with the V8 instead of the V10? Just curious.
Got a 12-16 week delivery which is from the high volume dealer in 5 states.
The other jerks couldn't even get a crew cab allocation.
Will wait and see what comes...captive shopper...GM on strike and Dodge has no crew.
About $800 over invoice is really doing good with no trade
My dealer told me to come and see him if I sold my truck before the delivery of the new one. He offered a clunker if needed at no charge. You'll have to carry insurance. You may want to try that with your dealer.
Rich
I did find out that they're the #1 F-Series dealership in the world (as of about last week). Explains their allocation. The've got well over 1,000 F150s in stock. And like 10 SDs. Sigh. I got a call at 4pm to take a look at a 350 that came in -- by 6pm it was sold (4x4 cc drw, but not lariat). What a market.
I've got the snow plow package and trailering package, couldn't get the V-10. Has something to do with the weight distribution with the crew cab and the extra weight of the engine (same with the diesel).
Trap
Per Mgr. at local Ford Dlrs. in Q-town, Pa., I receive word just today(7/30) that the Ltd.Slp. is definitely avail. with the 3.73 axle, V-10 engine.Their reports show nothing about a hold 'til Sept. Concerning the need for Ltd.Slp., two service techs suggested that for $270, the option is a good idea. 4X4 simply means the front left tire and the right rear tire are driving the unit. If either one of them slips, on ice or whatever, the drive energy is transferred to the opposite tire, meaning either the right front or left rear tire will take up the slack. I personally will be towing a fifth-wheel, so it warranted covering all the bases. Option code for Ltd.Slp is XC1. Currently, the dealership is discounting the unit 12% under invoice price. We shall see.
Thanks for the help "checksix" I'll keep you posted with an upcoming VIN #.
Or did you mean 12% under MSRP?
day Aug 10.-no lim slip
HE says Ford is still saying the limited slip
3.73(XC1) axle will be put on hold till 08/03/98
That's less than a week from now, so you should be ok.
The 3.73 lim slip with PSD engine has been available from the git go.
You would think the same option for the V-10
would be simple. Maybe it was an engineering
decision.
Ordered my truck yesterday and was told that there is no option for a 3.73 limited slip ratio axle offered in the F-350 CC DRW. Thats why I went with the 4.10 Limited Slip Axle. I was also told that the way to get a Super Duty faster is to order the XLT and stay away from the Lariat trim package. I stayed with the Lariat.
I'm envious . . . I am at least another year and a half maybe two years away from going back home. I hope that you have a safe and uneventful trip home Brutus.
I'm going with the Lariat too. What kind of deal were you able to get in Houston? I'm trying to get a decent price from a high volume dealer so I can get my truck in a timely fashion (Prestige is quoting 5-6 weeks top -- their allocation is huge so there's no delay there).
and still waiting...
Ryan
Anyway, he said that my truck is next in line although there are, of course, no guarantees. I admit that I feel that if I had not called several times this week and eventually got through to the boss, my order would not be next in line. I suspect my order is the oldest one he has, so when I finally started making a fuss, he probably felt obligated to give me priority. If I had rocked the boat earlier, I might have had the order pulled earlier. I'm now a firm believer in the "squeaking wheel gets the grease" saying. God help the next dealer I order a truck from.
Jim Isbell looked over my order and said that there were alot of options that have generated delays along the way such as the ESOF, the Lariat package, the V-10, and now the duallys. Although all of these didn't result in a "hold" status, he indicated that because of the demand, orders that did not have these options were often pulled regardless of whether they were placed after mine.
Although I still have no guarantee of a build date, I did walk away from the conversation feeling that Jim Isbell was a decent and sincere guy, not a slick salesman spouting a line that the customer wanted to hear. We'll see if that results in my order getting pulled anytime soon. The best case scenario is that it will get pulled next Friday, although I would be happy if it gets pulled in the next two weeks. If that doesn't happen, I don't know what my next step will be.
By the way, I don't know how you want to show my order date. Isbell's computer still reflects the 3/23 order date, even though I changed the order. It as if I just added an option. As far as Ford knows, and as far as the dealer is concerned, my order was placed 3/23, irrespective of the change.
I ordered my truck on 3/30.
(F350 4x4 CrewCab DRW 8'bed XLT diesel, Automatic PTO, BlackExt, GreyIn, keyless entry, idle control, 4.10 ltdslip, esof, tintwindow, towpkg, pass airbag, powertowmirr, 6waypower captains chairs, AT tires, HD suspension, offroadpkg)
at the time, I was told 6/8-6/20 delivery at that time.
Hasn't shown. I hassled the salesman 6/20-7/20 and he really didn't provide much good info, but did say that "it's not a clean order" meaning something on it wasn't available.
Rumors on other discussions suggested it was the idle control and the cloth captains chairs.
(I wanted it all, but not the leather - the dogs will chew leather, but they're good with cloth)
I didn't hear from my salesman for the last few weeks, found that he left that dealer.
His replacement is now telling me that all the parts are now available, and it should be submitted to the factory week of 8/17.
He then says it will take 1-2 weeks to get built, 2 weeks to get shipped, and 1 week for dealer prep.
(The dealer prep includes two days for installation of LoJack and an aftermarket alarm by third party electronics dealer)
That adds up to sometime mid/late September. Boy am I glad I started this before the old truck died.
Meanwhile, I drive past the dealer's lot everyday, and I see that any XLT SuperDutys that do show up are all leaving the lot within the week.
XL's (and some of them are fleet models with standard -ugly- headlamps) are lasting about 2 weeks.
I haven't seen a single Lariat on his lot yet.
I certainly suspect that if he has allotments, he's using them for lot trucks that sell fast.
with V-10 in Lariat Package. Been told only
leather available is the tan, but have seen
pictures with grey, can anyone comment ?
Also been told to expect delevery in 8 weeks, been
reading some different stories here. Sure hate to
wait half a year on delevery.
Also, what a shame Ford has forgotten how to make
a good looking two tone pickup truck. After years
of having the best looking two tones on the road
Ford is now staying with the lower accent.
Any comments are appreciated.
I agree with your comments on the two-tone, personally. The overall color choice for the SD is pathetic as well.