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Acura CL

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  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
  • Hi, everyone:

    This is my first posting, and I'd be grateful for any knowledge on this issue. I'll be leasing a new car in December 2002 (that's when I have to hand in my old leased car). Normally, that's the best time to get a new car, in my case the week of Christmas. But since Acura CL (and TL) will be changed for 2004, and become available in the spring of 2003, I was wondering about the availability of the 2003 CL-S this December. In other words, will Acura stop producing the 2003 coupe soon, with consequent reduction of availability when I'm ready to lease?

    Thanks for any advice.

    RJ
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Good thing it died right before 60k...
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 12,531
    if you check out acura-cl.com & acura-tl.com, you'll notice that you're not alone.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • kp40mkp40m Posts: 19
    Anyone else driven a 2003 CL-S with the manual? I've driven two (at different dealers) and can only conclude that this car has quality control problems. The first one I drove had a clutch that engaged too soon (my opinion, but one that I've read in another review) and the shifting was very notchy. The second, had a clutch that engaged later and the shifting was much soother. However, the 2nd had the minor problem with the armrest cover not staying latched. This is a known problem so why aren't these fixed before leaving the factory or why isn't the dealer fixing this when they first get the car. It's embarassing for a car of this caliber to be exibiting these QC issues. I'm not a CL basher. I like this car but as these are my first experiences with Acura quality, I'm coming away less than impressed.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    We've had our 2001 CL for over a year, and the only problem has been the moonroof rattle/squeak. The armrest cover has never been a problem. Is it a known problem? The moonroof is, and they issued a TSB, which our dealer utilized in his fix, which was perfect, BTW.

    As an addendum to the dealer fix, the day after the repair we noticed the rear bumper cover was scuffed. Since the dealer's service dept was the likely reason for the scuffs, they agreed, insisted actually, that they pay to have the bumper repainted. That's customer service!

    I have no problem with Acura/Honda quality at all, especially compared to my 2001 Chevy, and especially for the price ($26K).

    One area that can stand improvement, though, is the thickness of the sheet metal, and the quality/durability of their paint.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    kp40m-


    2001 CL-S, 17 months old and 17,700+ miles and not ONE problem. You are the FIRST one to mention an armrest problem. Never heard of this one. As for the 6-speed- never drove one. Not interested in shifting. The automatic is fine and fast enough for me. This is the best car I have ever owned! Love the "roar/rumble" of the dual exhausts when you floor it and leave everyone in the dust.


    If you question Acura quality, go check out some Chrysler products. Better yet, ask people that you see in parking lots that have a DC product. See what they say. Better yet. Go to http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov and check out the Technical Service Bulletins for DC products. Go back a few years. You'll see the SAME problems listed year, after year, after year! They are slow learners for sure


    You'll come RUNNING back to Acura! ;-)))


    fastdriver

  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    Not even the noisy moonroof? I thought everyone got that one.
  • I've been driving one since March, and have put about 7000 very happy miles on it. Mine has a clutch with very rapid take-up, just "off the floor", it grabs. This took me a few miles to adjust to, but now whenever I drive my wifes CR-V, I find that clutch to be a real pain to get used to - grabbing near the top of its travel.

    I find the shifter to be typical Honda - very smooth and positive. If anything, the shift effort might be a bit too light. I don't find it to be notchy, although I can on occasion "get lost" in the gears. I think that a 5-speed probably would've been fine for the job, as the 3.2 liter motor has a very broad torque band.

    As far as build quality goes - I've seen no flaws yet, and only one design issue: the fuel filler release can sometimes be balky.

    If I could change anything, I'd make the car RWD, firm up the supension a bit, and trim off some of the excess length & weight. Minor quibbles, really, as the car has been everything that I expected from it.
  • The motor is strong from the get go, but it really hits its stride from about 5k up to the redline. It hustles its 3700lbs (including li'l ol' me) along right well.

    It seems to be a typical Honda 'plant. It likes to rev (unless its hot out).
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
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  • When the outside temperature hits some threshold (seems like about ninety F), the engine loses much of its power & willingness to rev. My guess is that it's the ECU retarding timing to prevent detonation. The difference between hot & cool weather driving in the CL-S (at least in *my* CL-S) is quite pronounced. The car becomes something of a slug.

    The performance is completely independent of A/C use.

    On a more upbeat note - I just replaced my stock shift knob with a Momo short anatomic knob. Tres cool!
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    When the outside temperature hits some threshold (seems like about ninety F), the engine loses much of its power

    Not so with my base CL
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    mapman1138-

    Mmmm.. if that was the case, my CL-S should have been moving like a SLUG last week here in So. CT with the weather we had. Not so.

    Are you using premium gas?

    fastdriver
  • Of course - 93 Octane.
  • dee35dee35 Posts: 11
    Hiya!

    Haven't posted in about a year,now. I bought my CL-S in August of last year and 5 days later, WHAMMO...rear-ended on the highway! Spoiled my whole new car experience, especially after I got it back from the dealer's body shop in less than perfect shape. The word "Acura" was on a downhill slope and too low on the trunk. They made it right on the second try.

    My car just hit 15,000 miles. It's going in for the recommended service. BTW, my car still kicks *ss and I use regular unleaded gas. I haven't noticed any wind noise from the moonroof. I haven't had any problems to date, except for some pesky paint chips on front of the car...I honestly think it was caused by bugs and that really ticks me off. I had better paint quality on my 1995 Grand Prix. It's got a dent in the roof from an acorn or pebble, I have no idea how it happened. The only thing I've noticed is a slight shudder when I brake from time to time. It's due for a brake inspection, anyway. I am surprised by a brake issue after only 1 year, though. I don't think I'm particularly hard on them, but my hubby might not agree. ;-P I just got a warning from a state trooper for speeding. Hee-hee! Must be that new laser, cause my radar detector didn't even give me a heads up. So, now I drive in the slower lane on cruise control to keep me out of trouble! The car just WANTS to do 80. I can't help it!
    I finally Zaino'd it in the Spring. It looks awesome and the dirt and bugs come right off now.
    Well, gotta go. Be good to your CL's!

    Dee in NJ
  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    All of 80 mph. Prolly too fast for a NJ driver, though.

    I don't want to see any of you CL people doing any more than 60 max!
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    verozahl-

    HOW can you go more than 60 in NY OR NJ with all that traffic??? Come to CT and look for Dee's twin and you'll see 80 as I fly past you- conditions permitting of course. ;-))

    fastdriver
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    How can you do 80 in CT with all those troopers around. They oughta call CT "The Speed Trap State". ;-)
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    garypen -

    I don't know what roads you travel on, but I-95 and I-91 RARELY have ANY State Police on them! I have NO clue WHERE they are, but it's not on those roads- at least when I'm on them. I know that every holiday, the CT State Police make a BIG thing about being on the roads looking for speeders and drunk drivers, but as far as I'm concerned, it's all talk and NO SHOW just like Chrysler's "award-winning 5-STAR" dealers!

    What roads do you see them on?

    fastdriver
  • Here in Southern CA, if you are going less than 90mph, you better get out of the fast lane!!!

    Obi
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
    Must be alot of donut shops on those routes!
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    bodydouble-

    Nope! They're both interstate highways. NO donut shops, not even Krispy Creme!

    fastdriver
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    I've seen 'em on both I-95 and I-91. Connecticut is infamous for going after speeders. Ask any trucker or concert bus driver.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    garypen-

    Well, truck drivers and concert bus drivers need to be curtailed a little. They're another breed altogether. Talk about tailgaters! Guess I've just been lucky then if there's that many out there. They're doing a good job of hiding.

    fastdriver
  • I bought my Acura back in Dec 2000, and have 21K miles as of today

    (note about noise in sunroof, try getting a conditioner for rubber, I used that one from Prolong Oil and it goes away, Armor all SUCKS don't even bothers, you need one that feels like conditioner for your hair)

    I had to replace the transmission at about 10K miles. The new transmission does not shift smooth like the original did

    My memory feature has never worked on the mirrors, it would put the mirror to a totally different position or just not move them at all. I never noticed till my mother needed to borry the car. I took it in, had her pick it up, and they go and tell me that I don't know what I am talking about. << I am pissed, going back this monday.

    Now the button to turn the tilt off when putting the car in reverse doesn't work at all

    Car had a ruff idol, seems to shake alot when in park and even when the car has already been driven

    CD Player is already starting to get stuck with CDs and I don't even use it that much.

    Navigation Systems has froze on me like your PC would but took like a day or two to work again, Iwould just get a blank screen.

    MY biggest complaint is that before I even hit a 1000 mile I had to replace 3 tires, and I think they were not made to standard because I put 3 of the same tires back on (deal would not replace them) and they have held up to now. Also 2 rims got messed up because of the tires not taking the shock.

    As far as everything else the car seems fine, I do smoke alot of cars, even 8 cyl cars.
    I can keep up with the Mustang GT for the most part and still keep ahead of these new model cars that the other dealers are coming out with to over do what Acura Did on the CL-S
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    anthony813 -

    Sounds like you should have made use of your state's lemon law. Also sounds like you caught a bad one. Happens to all car makers, so I've been told many times!

    Maybe if you didn't smoke them so much, things would run a little better.

    Hope things improve for you.

    fastdriver
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,483
    Smoking is bad for your car's health.
  • vaforniavafornia Posts: 11
    There is a used 1999 Acura 2.3Cl that has 69K on it around my area that I am looking to buy but the vehicle is a bank repo. The vehicle come with one original key no valet key and the owner manual is also missing. The bank said that the original owner hasn't pay payment on the vehicle in the past 3 months. The bank is asking for $10-11K. Does the price sound reasonable for this vehicle? Does anyone know of any major problems that I should look for when inspecting this vehicle during the test drive? If I was to buy this vehicle, where can I go to replace the key system, and owner manual?

    Thanks you,
    Vafornia
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
    People who can't afford their car payments probably wouldn't have taken good care of their cars either. Maybe an over-generalization, but better safe than sorry.
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