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  • twistylocstwistylocs Posts: 20
    Hi Autonomous!

    Seems like you've been along for this whole wild ride while we decided on a car! ;)
    Enjoy your summer - I know we will!
  • golfactorgolfactor Posts: 5
    Had a good exp. with my local dealer and Cert Pre Owned. 2yr warranty for a 2001, 55000, AC, Monsoon w/5disc changer. I could not believe how clean this Golf is. Whom ever owned it before me must have garaged it all the time. I got a nice deal, all this 10,000 out the door. URL for photo.


    2001 Golf IV 8v 2dr Tornado Red
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    Have fun! I looked at a used Golf, about that same as that, and they wanted $13k I think.
  • Came here after searching and searching during downtime at my home forum, I am a proud owner of a 3G Civic DX. Still in the process of getting it back on the road. Thought I would say hello.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    Welcome! Glad to have you on board!
  • woddywoddy Posts: 12
    I'm glad to see a message board dedicated to this topic. I truly believe that hatchbacks are one of the greatest design advances for automobiles. It was surreal in the early 2000s that they were beginning to phase out. The brilliance of hatchback design is what enabled my good buddy Jeremy to transport his gigantic upright acoustic bass around in his tiny 1990 Civic Si, while no gargantuan sedan ever built could do the same. I've had a Ford Escort hatch, which was a nightmare, a 2000 Honda Civic which I loved, and just bought a 2002 Mazda Protege5 which is sort of a hatchback meets station wagon meets hotrod, and I am in love with it.
  • Hey all, I just bought a new 2006, MZ3 GT Sport Hatchback. Awesome car...great handling and of course...I got t fully loaded, came to 27, 000 CDN. Anyone who is interested in hatchbacks...forget honda, forget toyota, go to your nearest Mazda dealership...or you know a lease back fro 2005 or 2004...what ever! just go test drive one of these will love the reponse, handling, the gear shifting...if your a manual freak like myself..and overall, great on the gas. a days...gas prices suck. So yeah, check it out!!! :P
  • conallconall West TexasPosts: 91
    :( Too bad the Audi A3 isn't doing well, and too bad I'm not in the market for a car now. I tried one on at the Audi musem in Ingolstadt last summer. It was the 2.0 FSI Quattro - not yet sold over here.
    On the bright side of things, I bought a Mazda 3 a year ago. ;)
  • I've sold my 95 Ford Aspire in preparation for buying a new hatch. I'm driving the kids' car, an Escort Wagon, around until I buy something new. I'm down to these models that I might buy, based on what stock is out there a week or two from now:

    #1: 2005 Hyundai GLS hatchback w/ AT. This car is my top choice not for the car itself (a solid choice but I think the styling is dated), but for the online support available, including access to Hyundai's technical data online as well as several forums that can help solve any issue that may come up. The problem here for me is availability, since local stocks of 05s are very low.

    #2: 2005 Kia Spectra5 w/ AT. This car has better styling, resembling the more expensive Mazda3 wagon. It shares a lot of the Elantra's mechanicals. Local stocks are still high since my local dealer is the #2 volume Kia dealer in the country.

    #3: 2006 Kia Rio5 w/ AT. This is kind of a wild card. Right now, only the new Rio sedans are at the dealer, no hatches yet. Once they get there, I don't know if I will have much bargaining power since they are a brand new model and there are no incentives from Kia yet (aside from owner loyalty). I like the car a lot. It is the direct descendent of my Aspire, and is much improved over that car. The mileage is great and the ride surprisingly good for a car that size, better than both the Scion xA (which is too stiff) and Chevy Aveo (too soft). If I were buying a year from now, there would be incentives in place to make it competitive, but I'm afraid I will end up paying more for a new Rio5 than for the larger Spectra5.

    This is probably the most thought-about purchase of an economy hatchback in history! :surprise:
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    #1: 2005 Hyundai GLS hatchback w/ AT.
    #2: 2005 Kia Spectra5 w/ AT.

    From a reliability point of view, the order makes a lot of sense: the first has a good track history which trumps the second which has had poor reliability in years past and runs all the risks of the first year model.

    p.s. You may want to check the latest issue of CR for a revealing look at how the model year relates to its rate of problems.

    p.s. Spectra5 resembles but does not match the Mazda3
  • p.s. Spectra5 resembles but does not match the Mazda3

    Ummm... that's why I used the word resembles. The Mazda3 price does not match that of the the Spec5 either. Which is a good thing for the Spec5.
  • doohickie, looks like your heartstrings are pullin' ya towards that Rio (" descendent of my Aspire...") but I think you're on it when you suggest the timing may be wrong. Rio is not the "deal" at the moment rebate-wise and both you and I KNOW it.

    FWIW, we ARE in the same boat. ;) Two middle-aged guys not jumpin' on the Escalade/Beamer bandwagons of our peers. Kids, wife, dog(s) etc. etc. Just looking for the most bang for the buck. Gas mileage matters. Quality matters. Certain bells and whistles matter. And then of course there's that PRICE thing. :)

    If I could close my eyes and see into the future it sure would help. I almost feel like I'm steppin' out on some thin ice on a pond somewhere looking at these non-[non-permissible content removed] economy cars (something they, the Japanese, have gotten VERY good at over the years), hoping it won't crack and get me all cold and wet. I think you get the picture. We know Mazda (Toy', Honda etc. etc. for that matter) make damn good products...for a price unfortunately. So much so, Zoom Zoom Inc. has taken me right out of the Zoomer fold I'm afraid.

    That said, these Korean entrants do have appeal IF the quality is going up as so many have noted on these boards and various other publications. Mighty big IF!You've a much different situation then myself in that you've already been the happy owner of the highly esteemed, world reknown, impeccably assembled and regarded Ford product known as the late Aspire ;) for all these years. IOW, your comfort level may in fact be considerably higher than mine at the moment in this search of ours. I've got all twenty fingers and toes crossed while you've only a couple touchin'. :D

    I agree with you. It does finally come down to doors #1 & #2 as you've pointed out. Only Monty knows which is the better "deal" (BTW, what's your costume? Mine's a Jack Nicholson look-a-like from One Flew Over the Coo-Coo's Nest right now - going nutso!) and Monty ain't on the boob-tube anymore holding those big wads of cash in case you go chicken. You are doing exactly what I am at the moment my friend in this last week of the the end of the model year... COUNTIN' HOW MANY BLEEPIN' DOOR #1's there are and how many BLEEPIN' DOOR #2's there are and going from there. Everyday there seems to be less and less doors! :mad:

    I can't wait to see what happens the end of this week. After 9/30 the rebate game rolls into the next round. Pendulum might swing my way. Might not. Darn gas prices aren't helpin' the situation any sending all these SUV/Big Truck freaks OUR way on the neighborhood econo-box lots. Grrrrr...Heck, with my zoomer crossin' 177,000 this week without a hiccup, if things don't go my way, might just have to wait 'til year end (12/31) in the middle of a snow storm to go in and see what Mr. & Mrs. Kia have to offer on that candy red lil' Spec5 of theirs. Hold together baby...three more months of zoomin'...maybe.
  • Another thought to add to the mix: The number one midsize car in the latest JD Power customer satisfaction survey? Kia Optima. I have no doubt Kia is on the way up.

    I think my window will likely be Oct 1 to Oct 14 for my purchase, simply because I would like to have the deal closed before my son comes home from college for his high school homecoming (that way, he will have a car to drive around while he's home).
  • Another thought to add to the mix: The number one midsize car in the latest JD Power customer satisfaction survey? "The Kia Amanti was the highest-ranked midsize car in a customer-satisfaction survey released Wednesday by J.D. Power and Associates, marking the first time an entry from Korean automaker Kia Motor Co. had made it to the top of the list." I have no doubt Kia is on the way up.

    I think my window will likely be Oct 1 to Oct 14 for my purchase, simply because I would like to have the deal closed before my son comes home from college for his high school homecoming (that way, he will have a car to drive around while he's home).

    The Kia Amanti was the highest-ranked midsize car in a customer-satisfaction survey released Wednesday by J.D. Power and Associates, marking the first time an entry from Korean automaker Kia Motor Co. had made it to the top of the list.
  • chrisducatichrisducati Posts: 394
    I have been posting on Edmunds for years and have over looked this discussion. I'm a die hard hatchback fan. Own a 2006 Matrix XR at this point. Past hatchbacks owned have been, Vega, Gremlin,Monza, B 210 ,Rabbit, Strada, R5, Omni, Shadow, Corolla (2), not in that order but that is how they popped into my head. :)
  • rgarcia2rgarcia2 Posts: 1
    I purchased my first hatchback in December 2006, it is a black 3-door 2007 VW Rabbit. Being an artist and musician I can't say enough good things about how functional and how well it drives. Not to mention it's good looks. :shades:
  • kserrauskserraus Posts: 2
    Hi all, I have an '01 Hyundai Elantra hatchback and wondered
    if there was anyone here who also owned one? It's been a great little car for me, though some of the cheaper trim items are showing their years. I'm concerned about what might start going wrong with it, and what other people may have experienced, even though I know that engine's solid!
  • yerth10yerth10 Posts: 428
    Ideally all Hatchbacks and Wagons should be brought under CUV (Crossover Utility Vehicle) segment since it has 2-box type (Bonnet and the complete body) section like CUV.

    Now a days, CUV's are gaining fast at the expense of SUV's.
    CUV have 56 % market share among CUV/SUV combination in Feb-2007 sales.
  • Hi good hatchbackers, I inherited a 98 Volvo V70 XC, which I cannot afford to drive due to the cost of gas. I am in the process of selling it. I love Hondas and was in the market for a Civic hatchback in the $1100-1200 range. Then I saw a slightly used Yaris at a CarMax. Do you have opinions about the new, cheap Yaris (I would buy a manual) versus a 2003 or 2004 Civic hatchback for the same money. I am a costume designer and need to move much more stuff than people. The gas mileage is primary because I make very little money. Thanks for any advice or suggestions for another sturdy, reliable, cost effective hatchback (I don't think I can afford a Fit), Autochallenged
  • Hey! I was just looking at cars online and decided I needed to find a good forum site about cars. FOUND IT! I'm a 16 year old car lover. I have a 1996 Saab 900 hatchback so here I am introducing myself!
  • Personally I think you can't go wrong with a Honda. Reliable, great gas milage, and good looking! I love the hatchback civic and I plan of getting a new one here in like 10 years!
  • klg3gklg3g Posts: 1
    My 18 yr old was involved in a terrible accident in his beloved 2001 Saab 9-3
    hatchback. This was his first car, and our first Saab. It WAS quirky, and
    frequently required repairs that quickly added up, but it was a great car for
    a teen driver. In this accident, which involved a frontal crash at 35 mph,
    and being rear-ended so hard that the back of the car was literally torn off-
    my son emerged without a scratch and no injuries; NONE. Both airbags deployed,
    the front windshield was intact, and there was no intrusion into the passenger
    cabin. The car was totalled, of course, and looked like it had been compacted,
    but, again, no injuries whatsoever. I will probably not be replacing it with another
    Saab, due to the repair costs, but if you are looking for a safe car for a teen
    driver-this is the one. Oh, and the 2 bass guitars in the trunk were safe, too.
    Now, I'm looking for another safe car that can accomodate a double-bass-any
  • fredozfredoz Posts: 1
    edited July 2012
    Hi All,
    I'm beginning to consider buying a hatchback and am attracted by the relative quiet of Ford. I also want a stick shift car. At the moment, I'm traveling and driving a rented 2012 Fiesta SE, which is fairly quiet. I do not like the "view through a tunnel" to the rear. With a small window and wide pillars, the rear visibility is poor.

    We also need a gentile clutch spring for my wife who has knee damage.

    I'm surprised not to find any complaints about this issue. Is the Focus any better? Any other suggestions?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,679
    If you have knee trouble, I highly recommend not getting a manual. I love manual transmission, but my knee problems are not good with the clutch on a 2010 Camry, which is light.
  • Hi, All

    I'm a New member, here.

    Nice to meet you...

  • Hi all... new here.

    Although I've had my Mazda Protege 5 for a few years now, I just found this place.
    Love this car!


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