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MINI Cooper



  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    If they stretched it I think they will ruin the uniquely cute looks of the MINI. :cry:
  • dlefontdlefont Posts: 7
    I just ordered a 2005 Cooper (not S) - 5spd with Prem Package and wanted input from current MINI owners. How does the car fair on long road trips?
  • rayt2rayt2 Posts: 1,208
    Here's the link to the article on the longerrrrrrr Mini

    Diefont, My first trip with my Mini was after a 500 mile breakin and was to Virginia/North Carolina from upstate N.Y. about 1500 miles round trip. It was a blast but the stiffness of the Mini starts to wear on the bones after a while. I found myself stopping every 200 miles for a breif walk to get the circulation going again. Was getting a little over 400 miles to a tank of gas also. The car is built to handle so ride comfort suffers on long hauls. All in all I still enjoyed the trip and since Mini's on the road were still few and far between the looks had me laughing and smiling the whole trip. :P
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519 my surprise, it doesn't look as bad as I had envisioned and feared. :surprise:
  • dlefontdlefont Posts: 7
    MAXI MINI: Thanks. That was probably the best description on a MINI road trip I have read. I am planning on numerous three-hour road trips; so after reading your response to my question, I feel much better now. Again, thanks for the information.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    That may not be the longer version in the photo. It looks like it will come in regular and long wheelbase models.
    I wonder if they will work on giving it a more liveable ride?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Lets hope so, even if it means taking a bit of the edge off the handling prowess. We only have the base (non-sport) suspension, and even that the ride is pretty jarring on all but glass-smooth surfaces. Maybe if I was in my 20's it would be OK, but when you're in your 40's ......Nah! :sick:
  • mininmanmininman Posts: 1
    You will love your mini when you get it... to answer your ? about Dinan up grades they are available and i really recomend it, i have a 03 S with Dinan intake, exaust, computore soft whare up grades, pully reduction, and sway bar and i am over the 200 hp mark.. the car is kind of slugesh under 4000 rpms but is a blast to drive... they also have a coopers works tuning package which is a little high in price but is well worth the money... Good luck, Moto on
  • From what I've read the suspension on base and S are the same. The only differences would be the runflats and 17" rims if you get them. Mine has both and I routinely take it on 300 mile trips b/t college and home and its still not too bad- but I suppose being young helps. Great passing power on the S too, even in 6th gear- I rarely ever have to downshift.
  • crunchcrunch Posts: 84
    The suspension on the Base and the S ARE different UNLESS you order the Sport suspension as an option on the Base MINI. I have one of each (base w/o sport suspension and an S) and there is a world of difference between the two. The S can be harsh compared to the base.
  • amitinsfamitinsf Posts: 1
    the auto transmission is acting up on my 2005 convertible, which i purchased at the concord dealership. i'd rather go to the SF dealer (as i live in the city), but have heard mixed things about them. has anyone had good or bad experience with repair service at the SF dealer? how about the concord or pleasanton dealers? i'd appreciate your comments- thanks!
  • akitadogakitadog Posts: 117
    I just have to say it, to no one in particular. I'm psyched! Dark Silver w/ white roof and mirrors, white bonnet stripes. 6 speed, multi-function wheel, sport package w/ web spokes, LSD (yeah, baby!), alarm, silver interior, floor mats, wheel locks, other stuff I can't remember. Yeeeaaaaaaayyyyyy!
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Congrats! Dark Silver with White roof --- my favourite color combo. Have they confirmed the alarm will be installed by the time you go to pick up the car? We bought the alarm when we bought our Cooper nearly 2 months ago, and are still waiting for the alarm! Something about the LED light on backorder :( Talking about the flashing LED, did they tell you where the it is going to be located? It used to be on the tip of the washer wiper stalk. Then they said it's been moved to under the rear view mirror ala all BMWs. Now they are saying it will be on the tip of the turn signal stalk! :confuse: :sick:
  • akitadogakitadog Posts: 117
    I was told the alarm should be installed by Saturday. As for the LED, I've heard that it moved to the turn signal stalk so potential thieves will see it through the driver's window.
  • ace1000ace1000 Posts: 151
    I will be putting in an order for a MCSc soon, and I would like some advice on a couple of options: the location of the instruments with the Chrono Package versus the center gauges and LCD display, and the auto versus manual AC.

    The center speedometer is easy to read, but how about the other gauges and the LCD display? It seems like the tachometer, the LCD displays, and the warning lights are much easier to see with the Chrono Package.

    Some auto AC systems go crazy trying to get the interior to the desired temperature, and I often switch to manual to get rid of the roaring fan. How well does the MINI system work? It seems to me that the manual system may be easier to use than the auto system.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    " moved to the turn signal stalk so potential thieves will see it through the driver's window."

    That's what my dealer said too. Although I wonder about the merit of that because I have always thought the location under the rear view mirror used for all BMWs is the best since you can literally see the LED a block away in any direction. Also, the alarm unit is a BMW alarm anyway, so why not use the same LED setup?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Well, did you pick up your car as scheduled? Everything delivered as promised? How do like the car?
  • akitadogakitadog Posts: 117
    Ugh, one little setback after another.

    Okay, The car came in on Wednesday, I was supposed to pick it up on Saturday after they install the alarm. Well, the dealer called me on Saturday morning to tell me that they did not realize the alarms were backlogged and they wouldn't be able to install it until Tuesday.

    So I go to the dealer on Saturday to deal with the down payment and paperwork, I took the car for a spin and then left it there for Tuesday. This morning (Tue) I get a call from the dealer saying that the truck with the alarm parts would not be in until Wednesday and I could pick it up Wednesday night. I was ready to pick it up tonight.
    Tomorrow the dealer will call me to see if they will be able to put the alarm on by tomorrow night. Ugh, it's a bit frustrating.

    On a lighter note, I did see and drive the car, and boy is she beautiful. Those web-spokes look SOOOO much better in person. The shifter felt a little rubbery/vague, but I think it will tighten up with use. Is that a fair assumption?
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Have fun with your new car.

    Probably not a good assumption. If anything, the shifter is at its best when new, perhaps a litlte stiff which gets better, but the rubbery/vague feeling isn't going to get any better as things wear.

    It's subjective, but IMHO, the shifter is not bad for a front driver. Not great, but not bad. Some people report major improvements by using one of the solid/heavy shifter balls (Whalen), but I'm not a believer that a heavy ball is going to make THAT much difference. I think it's mostly the bling talking.

    - Mark
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Maybe this alarm issue is a common problem for Mini for all areas. As I posted earlier, I'm still waiting for my alarm to be installed 2 months after we've taken delivery of the car. The story I'm getting from the dealer is that they are backlogged on the LED light, because that is a new part. Last year the light was on the wiper stalk. This year is on the turn signal stalk. But I'm not sure if that is exactly the situation because the salesman had told me the part is available, but just not in their local inventory. So I asked him why do they have to wait for the slow boat to China to ship the part over? Could they not Fedex the damn thing? He said he honestly couldn't answer that one! :mad: :confuse:

    If there is no action for a couple more weeks, I'm going to start making phone calls to the general manager, and up.
  • akitadogakitadog Posts: 117
    I must confess, I don't drive manual transmissions much, this will be the first manual I own. Maybe compared to the manuals I have driven (3000GT, Civic) it just doesn't feel as good. Or maybe that's wishful thinking...

    We'll see, good thing I have 3 years/ 36K (and keeping my current car) to figure it all out.
  • pete99pete99 Posts: 1
    I'm looking at the Mini S and am trying to figure out if I need the Dynamic Stability Control option or the Limited Slip Differential. I'm not buying this to race - just to get to work and run errands. Can I live without these two options?
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    DSC is a safety feature which helps the car avoid skids and spins. Statistics show that it is a very valuable feature in preventing accidents, so if you want a safer car, I'd get it, especially if you drive in slick conditions.

    LSD is a performance feature which reduces wheelspin when cornering hard while on the throttle. You can skip it unless you plan on driving the car fairly aggressively. On the track, it is a great feature.

    - Mark
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636

    Be sure and post in the MINI Cooper: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences discussion as well.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    One interesting tidbit to pass along. DSC is an extra-cost option, whereas ASC+T is standard. DSC is supposed to be one step up on ASC+T. However, in the (Canadian) Owner's Manual, they have the exact same description for DSC and ASC+T.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I think we went over this is a few pages back. Apparently the Canadian cars call these systems with different names.

    Whatever they're called, traction control systems simply cut engine power when a wheel slips on acceleration. It's mostly to reduce the chances of getting stuck in the snow. This is a very simple system and is standard in most cars these days.

    Skid control has a yaw sensor that compares the rate the car is turning to the position of the steering wheel and from this can deduce if the car is oversteering or understeering. If either is detected, it then modulates power and brakes individual wheels to attempt to correct the problem. This a much more sophisticated system and recent studies have shown it to be very significant in the reduction of accidents.

    Limited slip differentials are mechanical systems that reduce the tendency of differentials to route power to the wheel with the least traction. At least on the Mini, it is pitched as a performance driving option, although it should assist in getting around in the snow - instead of just cutting engine power, it would route engine power to the wheel with more traction.

    - Mark
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I quote straight out of my owner's manual as follows:

    "ASC prevents slip at the drive wheels while starting off and accelerating the vehicle. ASC also recognizes unstable vehicle conditions, such as fishtailing or nose-diving. In these cases, and subject to physical limits, ASC helps to keep the vehicle on a steady course by reducing engine speed and by applying brakes at individual wheels. This system optimizes driving stability and traction, especially when just starting off, when accelerating, or when cornering."

    Interestingly enough, the same description is also used for DSC. I suspect both ASC and DSC are designed to do the same thing, but DSC is just a more advanced version of ASC.
  • novicenovice Posts: 64
    Okay--all True Silver base mini w/sport package and premium package. Crazy. But it's my wife's car and she liked the color and didn't need the bigger engine, plus it's what they had without having to order and wait. So far the car is a kick. I've driven it more than she has. Everything works great. I was worried by other posts that criticized the auto transmission but it's fine--though a little different. Handling is super--it's on rails in corners. Parking is almost humorous it's so easy. The ride is not a luxury ride, but other than on bad surfaces it works. It rides okay for the type of car it's meant to be. We'll get other tires at replacement time--these are run flats which are supposed to add to the harshness of the ride. It does transmit some road noise. But it's a very bright cabin and a fun cabin. The sports seats are very nice. Gas mileage is better than promised--37 on the highway. The radio is much better than expected (base radio). So many comments by people--amazing. People are really attracted to the Mini.

    So--after one month--two thumbs up by both my wife and me.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "So--after one month--two thumbs up by both my wife and me."

    So is that four thumbs up? ;)
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    And regarding color, we had orginally wanted the Hyper Blue, but as you said, didn't want to wait, so took the Pure Silver with black roof. Not the flashiest color but now we really like it. The silver gives the Mini a "high-tech" look, and dirt doesn't show much. The black roof and mirrors set it off nicely.

    I too, am amazed at the positive reaction the Mini generates from bystanders, even though it's been out on the market for almost 4 years! I think the car will go down in history as a styling classic. :shades:
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