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Mazda Protege5



  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    First of all I don't know how you can compare dirt-trapping features of a cloth seat and a vinyl dash.

    I have two Proteges in my driveway, a 2000 Protege ES with gray upholstery and a 2002 Protege5 with black upholstery. I am the designated car washer/vacuumer/maintainer in the family.

    Friends, there is no comparison.

    I absolutely HATE the upholstery in my wife's Protege5. Its velour quality is apparent when I slide out of the seat, feeling the upholstery "hanging on" to my pants. It attracts and holds every hair, every little speck of dirt, and every piece of lint it can, and cleaning it is twice as hard as cleaning the upholstery in the 2000 ES. If you'll take a close look at it, the fabric on the Protege5's seats very closely resembles the fabric you'll find on a lint brush, and it works just as well.

    Sorry -- these are Proteges three and four for me, and I love these cars, don't get me wrong -- but the upholstery in the Protege5 is a sticky point with me in more ways than one!

  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    mileage might vary... I have no problem whatsoever vacuuming the seats. I have a small Nova-Skotia-duck-tolling-retreiver (well a dog if you like) who loss a lot of her hairs. Now, if we are talking about the trunk carpet is another story.

  • dsm6dsm6 Posts: 813
    Oh, you have a P5, so it is in the hatch. ;-)

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    so do you trade the gti for a P5?
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    If I ever decide to go for the P5, I'm probably going to avoid the seat lint problem by ordering my car with the very reasonably priced factory leather. It is perforated for ventilation, and really dresses up the interior IMO.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    funny face you. ;-)
  • waydewayde Posts: 198
    Thank God! It was such a pain. I've had my P5 since November .... NO problems whatsoever - 13000 trouble free, rattle free miles... with lots of fun on the twisties :) (handles much better than the softly sprung GTI)
    My GS-R, GTI, and P5 have all had black interiors - cloth on GS-R and P5. I see no difference in the amount of lint or whatever on my seats.... and i'm not old or blind :)
  • taddisontaddison Posts: 99
    Sticky velour might be annoying to clean, but it's great for holding you in your place when cornering fast!

    I have it in my 87 Nissan Sentra Sport Coupe, which has some of the best sport seats in any car I've seen (adjustable lumbar support AND adjustable width side bolsters, sporty yet still very comfortable for 700 mile trips). The cloth is still in almost mint condition after 15 years.

    Regarding wind noise, I was looking at P5's this weekend and noticed that the mid-cycle refresh models have a knobby rubber strip glued to the bottom front edge of the front crossbar. My guess is that this is designed to reduce the wind noise that people on this board have been complaining about. I wonder if this strip is available from the parts department for people who own pre-refresh models...

    I was actually looking for a silver mid-cycle refresh 5-speed with sunroof and abs/airbags. There are none available (in any color) in the Dallas area, as far as I can tell. I suspect Mazda assumes that people buying 5-speeds are cheapskates and probably don't want any other options. Myself, I want a 5-speed because I prefer it regardless of cost, but I still want the other options. Does anyone have experience special-ordering a P5? How long does it take?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    You just admitted you've had black interiors in all your cars, so you don't know what a pain in the butt the black interior really is! It's not as much the color as the surface of the material. Entirely different from the material in the 2000 sedan.

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I saw a couple matching your description (one was blue and the other was white) on my lot here in Richmond, VA last Thursday. Was doing a little snooping around while my 2000 ES (40,000 trouble-free miles) was having its recalled ignition coil replaced. (Dunno why, car was running fine.)

    Anyway, they apparently do make the Protege5 outfitted the way you want it -- but maybe it's not too popular in your area. Ask them if they can order it.

  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    P5 is an awesome car isn't it? May be not as powerful as the gti but one can still have a lot of fun driving it.

    My soccer mate (who own a bmw 325) car pools with me for the third time and he is still impress by my P5. Last week he asked me if my car have a turbo or not. LOL. Yesterday when I enter fast a right curve, he grabs the handle thinking that I was insane, but soon realizes the the car sucks the road and does not have body roll at all.

  • subyaudidudesubyaudidude Posts: 136
    the interior of the P5 is sooooo easy to clean. The Passat's interior was like a fur magnet (we had two cats back then). Plus, when it got the fur it was like velcro. I swear the ends of the interior fiber were "hooked" so as to catch and hold as much of it as possible. That is my reference point and I can say, by far, the P5 interior is much much much easier to take care of and keep clean.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066

    My referance is 3 years with a black cloth interior-ed Passat. That stuff was like masking tape and held every spec of lint and hair it could. It was awfull... you couldn't even vaccum it up.

    The P5's interior, by contrast, certainly shows the lint, but it vaccums up VERY easily and is gone.

    The hatch rug is another story though. I think it's made of Velcro. I put down a generic rubber mat to cover it.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    We have two long-haired cats RIGHT NOW, and I'll say that every hair my wife brings into the car on her clothes gets hooked into the fabric in her P5. I've had to resort to one of those tape roller lint picker-uppers they sell at the pet store to get stuff off her upholstery that my 12-amp Eureka won't pull up. And using the brush attachment on the Eureka just rolls up the hair and lint into long strands that STILL stick to the upholstery.

    Say what you want -- I ain't lyin'! I've been having fun with this car's upholstery since January 29!

  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    may be Meade's cats have bad and sticky hairs? ;-)
  • alternatoralternator Posts: 629
    That Canadian "World of Wheels" web site (I referred to in a recent post) prominently displayed "July 2002" on top each of their web pages, so I thought the material was current. Sorry.

    Apparently their road tests were of the 2000 Mazda Protege LX and the 2001 Mazda Protege5. Nice favorable write-ups in any case.
  • subyaudidudesubyaudidude Posts: 136
    The web link you posted was current. It's a 2002 Progete5 they're talking about. Actually, they weren't made in 2001 so it has to be a 2002.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Ouch, I just realize why Meade wrote about the sedan ignition recall topic on the P5-problems board. He just wanted to shift the bad statistic number on us. ;-)
  • winlet28winlet28 Posts: 19
    I figured that the PR5's collect hair and lint on the seats due to the fabric. After my test drive I looked at the back seat and saw a bit of it. No big deal but my dalmation sheds like it's snowing.

    My 1999.5 Jetta did the same thing. Our dogs were never in the car but it appeared like they lived in the thing. I can get a red with leather/moon 17,000 or blue with the cloth-like seats/moon for 15, 500. Big difference in price for that inexpensive MSRP of leather. Plus the blue comes with the shiny wheels. Go figure.

    Thanks for the posts guys.
  • winlet28winlet28 Posts: 19
    Our 2000 Proto ES cleans up really easy, the seats great.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    I can vacuum your car for three full year, once every 2 weeks for 1500 bucks.
  • mustang87mustang87 Posts: 129
    I find it that the p5 interior is easy to clean. i have seat covers up front. i take em off and shove them into the washer. i vacuum everything else, the doors, seats, carpet, hatch area and try to get every crevice. i also covered the floor with plasticy mat from home depot cut to size. i just take those out, spray them and they are done. when they get dirty i throw them away and go spend 10 bucks on another set. i use that lint lifter on the seats and door panels. thus my seats and floor after 20k miles are in better than showroom condition. btw, what do you guys use to clean the dash. i have heard so many people say that armor all is not good. why?
  • mustang87mustang87 Posts: 129
    my club, intense performance mazda club here south florida is planning a trip to georgia, south and north carolinas. in georgia we plan on visiting atlanta and NOPI show. south carolina we will most likely go through greenville and visit the BMW factory and proving grounds and in north carolina we will attack the blue ridge parkway. We will be planning a route this friday. Is there anybody that wants to join our little tour along the way? Any mazda and year welcome to do so. I'll keep you guys posted.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    CONCLUSION 1: If you don't own pets, the interior stays pretty clean. When you do have to clean, it's easy to vacuum up the lint and dust. The exception is the trunk mat which tenaciously holds on to anything it contacts.

    CONCLUSION 2: If you do own pets (especially long haired cats that like to roll around on your breakfast dishes) you will have more of a problem keeping the interior clean.

    Is everyone happy? Did I get it right? ;)
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    Well, we do let them roll in our syrupy plates after breakfast.


    bwahahahahaha!! I almost shot coffee out my nose!!!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    "Ouch, I just realize (sic) why Meade wrote about the sedan ignition recall topic on the P5-problems board. He just wanted to shift the bad statistic number on us. ;-)"

    BRRRRP!!! Wrong!!!

    I posed the question there because I found maltb there -- and as we all know maltb is a Mazda expert. I'd asked the question earlier on the sedans discussion but got no response. So I thought I'd take it to him. So sorry. But I didn't feel so horrible about doing it since the Tribute was also being discussed there.

    (BTW, why'd you bring it up HERE? Seems that's the pot calling the kettle black!)

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    maltb is a Mazda expert

    When he's not busy posting smar tass responses. Wait he's always busy doing that. There goes that expert theory.
  • tetonmantetonman Posts: 73
    I didn't see anything in owner's manual about this topic. Does Mazda start off with a break-in oil or should I change at 1,000 miles to get rid of the metal bits?

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