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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Maybe we're ready for another round of those, eh? Ford could use the Crown Vic platform (as opposed to re-certifying a whole new car and powertrain). GM could use the GTO platform and engine, though it might cost too much.

  • It's funny... if u look at the trucks that are racing in NASCAR, u won't see any jacked up 4X4s. It's ALL about aerodynamics !!!!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    I always liked the VW pickup as a car based pickup. Handled very, and got 50 mpg with the diesel. Very usefull, without being jacked up, cladded and supersized.

    It seems like car makers think everybody who might want a truck needs to tow a houseboat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Your choices are endless. Fiat makes one, Chevy makes one, VW makes one, and Ford makes one. All compact, perhaps even sub-compact in some cases. Cheap too.

    They usually carry 500kg, not a bad payload for a little truck.

  • Well since I can't move to Brazil... or Australia... or New Zealand... or anywhere else they sell pickups that get good gas mileage, all I can do is [non-permissible content removed] :-)
  • Hehehehe superglide...Merry Christmas..Bah humbug...Jack
  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    Although 2006 is not half over, it seems like this might be the year of the CUV. There are several CUVs hitting the market this summer which are likely to have a big impact: Mazda CX-7 and the Acura RDX. These cars along with the ones already here or also on their way (Ford Edge and a Lexus offering) promise to really define this category as well as make for heated competition.

    From what I have read, these cars are viewed as entry-level premium vehicles that combine performance, luxury and all weather capabilities. These cars make no pretense at being off road cars; they are car based vehicles which are designed to handle like cars and offer better gas mileage than their SUV counterparts.

    These cars also offer a more realistic alternative to the majority of SUV owners: car designed more the way they actually use their cars while offering a more macho image than a wagon.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,346
    are IMO really just station wagons (or hatchbacks for the smaller ones), which is really the most practical body style for most people. They just have to have that pretend "macho/SUV" look for all the people afraid of looking uncool driving a wagon.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • luvmbootyluvmbooty Posts: 271
    I'm a family man looking for a decent midsize to large wagon under 25000! Unless I missed something, there is only ONE, the Dodge Magnum SE which is under powered with a 2.7L engine! Is there a conspiracy out there with the goal of only rich people owning a decent size wagon! I REFUSE to go the SUV route! I despise SUVs, especially the gas guzzlers! I want a vehicle with versitility, fuel economy, decent power, and with at least 105 passenger volume all under 25000! Honda! Toyota! Hyundai! Is anyone listening!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,346
    Expand your definition just a tad and you will find more choices. some of the newer "crossover" suvs are really wagons pretending to be SUVs so the image concerned people will buy them.

    The Freestyle comes to mind. To me, it is just a 500 Wagon, especially if you get the FWD version. Nothing trucky about it. And you can get a modestly equipped one for your 25k, and it has a tom of room.

    I'm not sure of your size definition, but to me the magnum is a full size car, even longer than the Freestyle. So, I don't know how the mazda 6 fits in your eyes. That at least is a true wagon.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,091
    Legacy wagon. (i'm sorry, but i have no idea what the total passenger volume is, but its only 6 cu ft smaller than the magnum in cargo capacity.)

    You can get the magnum with a 3.5 for near $25k.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Ditto the above, Freestyle, Magnum, 6 wagon, Legacy Wagon, and add Passat wagon to that list.

  • himi1himi1 Posts: 25
    There is no Soul forume so I'll post it here:

    Kia has just released the first preview of upcoming Kia Soul concept, called Soul Burner.

    Click here for high resolution image and other data:

    Kia SOul Burner; high resolution image
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Seems like a good competitor for the Suzuki SX4.
  • Front end looks too much like a Camry - needs to have a tougher look as does the RAV 4. Also, the sideview mirrors are too small and look like 1970s GM mirrors which were detached from the body on small supports. Make them larger and attach where the silly triangular small windows are. Otherwise this is a great looking crossover.

    When will a hybrid be offered for the Venza and how about a 3rd row seat, at least for small adults/kids like the Mitsubishi Outlander?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Outlander sales are dismal. I wouldn't use it as an example for Toyota to copy.

    A short while ago I read that Suzuki outsold Mitsubishi.

    I don't quite "get" the Venza, either, though.
  • What did you get and how much paid. thinking bout sale of low milage, 04 Matrix 6S with every option and great shape. Would that have been one you would have considered?
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