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Chevrolet Cobalt: Reviews (Car & Driver, Edmunds, etc.)
The Cobalt did well in the Edmunds long term test update. It averaged 31 mpg on a trip including mountains. For the price, The Cobalt is one of the top buys. I know that the Fit is a top rated car and the Versa is a nice package, but the cobalt is looking pretty good. I would say the Fit would be on the top of my shopping list. But, when you factor in price, I could very well end up in a Cobalt.If I had the cash I woould probably take the plunge. I would want a manual shifter. The only thing that gives me some pause about the Cobalt, is that their are cars that get better fuel economy. But you do get one of the most powerful cars out that still gets decent mileage.
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The Cobalt looks better than a Fit. I would not say it is a premium compact, but it is a good enough looking economy car.
When I had a Corolla, I got around 28 in city, and 35 to 40 MPG on the freeway. I was in the real World :shades:
The Cobalt head2head is with Civic class of car. If you want more torque in the base model, GM wins. Will leave it at that.
-Loren
Now, the above observation leads me to a question for all of you Cobalt owners. Are you truly happy with your vehicle thus far? We've heard from several people in this forum that are either somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied, so if you're a lurker and you're very satisfied with your Cobalt, please speak up. I'd like to hear more feedback from Cobalt owners on here. The Consumer Reports BEST & WORST NEW CARS 2006 issue didn't have very many good things to say about the Cobalt sedan. Yeah, yeah, I know... "If it's not of Asian origin CR won't have anything positive to say about it."
Even though they supposedly don't accept any advertising from automobile manufacturers whatsoever.
(A few thoughts about Consumer Reports: have you ever seen any advertising in CR other than their blowing their own horn for subscriptions and their various services? They're completely subscription and point-of-sale supported. Unlike other publications which accept carefully maintained (tweaked?) samples from their manufacturers' consumer publication test fleets, everything CR tests and reports on is by way of buying their test samples through normal retail channels. Where I part company with CR is the anonymous way their samples are reported on. With the "usual suspects" enthusiast rags, there are listed testers to whom readers can agree with or flame in letters to the editor.)
What's your basis for this comment? I think that they tend to not put enough emphasis on performance, but they do apply a methodical approach and since they don't accept advertising should be pretty unbiased.
As far as their survey results go those are suspect as well. They don't give a legitimate surveys being that the people who they survey are the people who subscribe to their magazine so there is no control over who the respondents are and the reason why they are responding, etc. They are not random surveys like JD Powers.
Plenty of cars have the switches on the console, I can't name another car that has them in front of the shifter. It definately not in a place where they fall to the hand.
It's a bad design and CR rang them up for it. What's the issue?
quote ray_h1 -On the other hand, J.D. Powers & Associates surveys are paid for by the automakers and conducted among owners who've bought the car(s) being surveyed and received an extra free tank of gas from the dealership for a perfect score. -end
JD Powers funds all of it's own syndicated research, the automakers do not fund the research.
JD Powers conducts it's automotive research using a larger sample size of owners than does CR, which decreases error.
JD Powers also does not limit itself to one demographic group :surprise: (such as subscribers to Consumer Reports).
"Marketing information firm J.D. Power and Associates (best known for its car ratings) awards badges of excellence in dozens of categories based on yearly customer satisfaction surveys. Its studies are independently financed and then sold for use in marketing."
I don't doubt for one moment that Consumer Reports testing methodology and reporting skills leave something to be desired in some instances (particularly in vehicle tests), but the organization's integrity is beyond reproach. Their surveys also list the areas of quality concerns on a sliding scale which neither auto enthusiast magazines nor J.D. Powers make any effort to take into consideration. (But, then, that would impact their advertising revenue in the first case or sales to their corporate clients in the second case, wouldn't it? )
It is not their integrity that is question, it is their competency that is in question. And I am happy to see that you agree. :P
Do you honestly think that small sample size and only obtaining survey data from those who fund Consumers Union is a sound basis of obtaining accurrate, unbiased information? :surprise:
Perhaps you believe that JD Powers surveys are biased toward Chevrolet Cobalt since you are implying that the auto manufacturers are somehow paying for great ratings. Chevrolet's payment must have bounced since the Cobalt and it's predecessor the Cavalier are poorly rated.
Yeah, that would be those who have a blind bias towards GM vehicles. I believe their top tested vehicles in this segment are the Civic, Mazda 3 and Focus. Seems on target to me.
As far as having "car" guys evaluating the handling of cars, they're competent as is. They appreciate the driving feel of a BMW as much as the next guy.
My biggest beef with JD Powers is all "problems" are given the same weight. Not to say Powers doesn't have value, the automakers do pay for their data afterall.
And they differ from this supposed bias from other auto publications how? They're certainly not alone in rating cars such as the Civic and Mazda 3 above the Cobalt.
They're road tests are more comprehensive and thorough than enthusiast and other magazines. I don't read the magazine regularly but I don't recall any unprofessional and novice comments.
The big3 have the largest amount of repeat buyers.
This was done in survery after survey.
Click here to see what I mean
The domestics lose market share not necessarily because of product offerings or quality, but the perception of quality and aggressive marketing. Currently quality is at an all time high based on warranty claims and the domestics keep improving on that. On the other hand Toyota's quality has seemed to peak because their quality has went down the last two years, interesting.
The big3 have the largest amount of repeat buyers.
This was done in survery after survey.
Ford and GM definitely have a lot of repeat buyers. No doubt about it. However, their overall market share has eroded over the years and will continue to for quite some time to come. There are myriad reasons for this problem. Some of the ones that immediately come to mind are:
-The ever-increasing number of imports that have become available to American consumers over the years. Some of these imports have been very, very good, but not all of them have been so great.
-Domestic vehicles' quality problems; a combination of real ones and perceived ones. And yes, the Asian and German cars have had their fair share of problems too.
-Union labor costs; including legacy pension and health care expenses.
I don't think that there are as many young people today that desire to own a Ford or Chevy just because dad or grandpa drove nothing but Fords or Chevys since they first obtained their driver's licenses.
Back to the Cobalt. I saw a Victory Red-colored Cobalt SS sedan last week with a set of polished aluminum wheels and Pirelli tires and it looked really, really sharp to me. That little car really stood out in the parking lot of the restaurant we pulled up to.
Also, my nephew bought himself a new Cobalt LT coupe last week. I like most everything about his car except two things that I noticed. The headliner looks pretty ragged at the end adjacent to the top of the rear window. Almost looks like it was just ripped to fit instead of being cut to fit. And the passenger side door armrest looks horrible at the handle recess area. It looks like black paint overspray or plastic flash near the top edges of the recess. Very bad craftsmanship there. But other than these two issues, I really do like his new car. The rest of the fit/finish was pretty darn good for a vehicle in this price range. When the doors are shut, they sound like a car that cost twice as much as the average Cobalt does.
Ron M.
Yet you keep reading them. Is it possible that you have a "perception" of bias but haven't actually read them that much? If I had a resource that I thought was so poor, I wouldn't keep going back to it.
Speaking of perception, where would everyone get the perception of low quality if the products were indeed of fantastic quality????
The domestics, namely General Motors have had excellent cars for years as shown by consumer tests, rankings, and awards, total sales, etc., but that doesn't always put people in the show rooms to buy cars because GM hasn't had a real good marketing plan in years. Also consumers tend to find the foreign cars status symbols for what ever reason and these types of consumers tend to be out of touch with anything but their favorite Japanese brand.
My perception of GM isn't very good but it's not based on status or advertising. I'm the only import buyer in a family of domestic loyalists. My Mom's Impala has a tranny leak and the lettering worn off of the radio at 40k. My Dad's Century has an ABS light that comes and goes. At 15k, they were overjoyed to tell him that it needed a $600 repair and of course "legally we shouldn't let you take it out of here like that". When my Dad expressed concern that it needed such a costly repair so soon, I told him that when I started buying imports, I dtopped dealing with dumb stuff like that.
Part of it is the doestics fault, but you know there have been plently of domsetic cars that you buy and they don't give you a single problem... As evidenced by the reduced warrentee claims from domestics and GM and Fords new Warranty coverage plans.
Our automakers need to relief to get themselves back on track, but they seem to be doing pretty good so far, depending on who you ask
This is a bit later than that initial post, but I'm a lazy lurker :O)
My 2006 ls coupe is going to be one year old at the end of this month and I have not had one problem at all.
None.
I know absolutely zilch about cars so I can't really respond too indepth about car stuff, but I think that's why I love it so much! It starts, it drives and it makes me smile when I see it sitting in a crowded parking lot looking all pretty after a car wash )
I am very pleased with all aspects of it & I guess that's my review.
Chevy keeps on improving this little car.
Cobalt SS Review
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