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2013 and earlier-Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid

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  • mb_rynamb_ryna Posts: 34
    Thanks for the comments. I, nor anyone in the immediate family, have been in the military. I did join USAA, but was hoping that there would be some products that they offer which would qualify me for a MB discount.

    Sounds like it won't work out for me becuase I doubt I'd get an authorization number.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    Excellent! Good price for a 2010 with Prem 2 and all the other options. Thanks for the "thanks". I was in the car business as a manager for about 6 years after I retired from being a Principal (public) and Private School Headmaster. I learned alot of things, which I don't mind sharing with you guys.

    Good luck with the car.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    I am also in the market for a new/cpo 2010 MB E350 4matic, and would love to know the resourse that allows you to see what the dealers are paying at auction for these cars to allow for a more productive negotiation. I imagine that there is a geographic variable as well. Where is this data found? I am looking to find/buy the car within the next month, in greater NYC area (Fairfeild co CT). I am also eligible for the USAA discount, but the best price I have found so far for a New 11 E350 4matic with Prem 1 and back up camera is 49K still about 5-10K more then I really want to spend!!
    Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    First of all, what is the MSRP of the vehicle you want to purchase? Your USAA price will be $4000 below the "invoice" of the vehicle. Some dealers will also provide you with $1500 incentive on top of that.

    I am going to guess that a 4 matic with Prem. 1 MSRP's at about $57,500.00. Invoice is about $52,500. Less $4000.00 is $48,500, less 1500 is about $47000 +tax, tags, etc.

    The place where I go for pricing on auctions for preowned vehicles is Manheim. I have a friend who looks it up for me. That is the prices that are going for auctioned vehicles.

    I paid $46600 for a 56495 MSRP vehicle down here in Florida. I got a great deal, but I usually do from my dealer.

    Good LUck

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • apintsapints Posts: 18
    Just leased a E 350 4matic from Ft Washington (Pa) Mercedes. Shop it at 5 dealers in area and got the following deal:
    car list $58,025- Steel grey- Prem pkg 1,split seats
    lease pay $639.32 for 33 mos including 3 yr maintenance, inceptions only down, 15,000 miles
    Salesman Doug and sales manager Frank treated me well and gave me the best price right away.
    I would recommend this dealership.
  • kc_06kc_06 Posts: 15
    Hi Abacomike:

    Guess my luck. Yesterday I was supposed to get my car, but the dealer called me to say that the car was having some issue with starting and they are working on it. They have been working on the car since Monday, and still they have not been able to find the cause of the problem. So the GM of the dealership asked his used sales manager to get another similar car for me.......now I am waiting :-)

    Just wanted to update you....I will keep you posted. I already notified the dealer that I am not interested in P2, so if they get a car with P1 and Pano, that would work for me, but in that case I will pay only 41K.....
  • skeefyskeefy Posts: 1
    Hello to my fellow edmunds petrolheads,

    My wife and I are considering a purchase of a 2011 E-Class E350 Wagon (options below). I'm trying to get at what I should pay for this car. I'm aware of the $4,000 "Conquest" program that would be available to me since we are BMW owners right now.

    However, when I view online pricing guides (paid reports from consumerreports.org or free data on truecar.com - link @ bottom), these make no mention of the $4k Conquest incentive. I'm guessing their data is out of date, and that I can take their "target price" and drop $4k from it. So instead of $58,783, I'd ideally pay $54,783. ** OR ** would folks recommend starting from, say, dealer cost...then giving them $800 for their efforts then subtract $4k to get to: $56,279 + 800 - $4,000 = $53,079?

    I want to ensure that when I go out to my local dealer with this proposal that I will be in the ballpark and not wasting everyone's time.

    Many thanks for your thoughts!

    [2011 E350 WAGON - Sport, Capri Blue, Premium 1 pkg, Wheel pkg]

    http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/mercedes-benz/e-class-pricing/2011/7FBCE2F4/?z- ipcode=94549&optionInfo=6808463,6808452,6808448,6874416,6808481,6808477,6808484&- incentiveInfo=&colorInfo=846260,845960
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    The conquest incentive is not mentioned in any of the pricing info sites. What I would do is go to your Benz dealer, get your best price on an E350, then lay on them that you also expect the $4000 incentive.

    Don't go in and announce the incentive to them up front. YOu will find that many of them will not bring this up with the hopes they can get you to buy without knowing about the incentive, which means they pocket the $4000 for themselves.

    Always go in; get your best price; then lay on them the incentive and that you are aware of it. IF they "hem and haw" that they know nothing about it, walk out!

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • ex007ex007 Posts: 13
    While I would generally agree with not mentioning incentives until the end, there is a very real reason for doing so upfront: according to multiple sources, each dealer was only given so many Conquest incentives and when those are gone, they can no longer offer the discount. When I did my search, it was about 50/50 on the dealers that had incentives left and those that didn't. No sense wasting time with a dealer if they can't get you the discount.
  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    I have a question for you guys and want to test my logic. To buy a new E350 4matic with Prem 1 with the USAA discount in the Northeast I'm looking at somewhere around 47K. The dealers around here all have 1+ 2010 E350 4matic CPO and they are asking in the ballpark of 45K for these cars and all of them have at least 12k miles, some as high as 25k. Now, why would anyone pay the same price for a CPO that they could for a new car, so I have been lowballing the CPO cars sometimes shy of 40K, but I can't even get anyone to negotiate with me. Am I missing something. How can a CPO car, 2 years old with 25K miles only be 3k less than the same car brand new?? Ever heard of depreciation??

    Also, does the invoice prince change? I'm thinking that the 2012 model will start to arrive soon and that the dealers here have a glut of the 2011 cars on the lot, so I would think that they might be motivated to move some cars, and would like to try and really cut a deal on any car they have sitting on the lot.

    BTW, Abacomike, what was the additional 1500 rebate for???
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    First of all, not everyone can qualify for the USAA discount. You, or an immediate family member must be a veteran. Secondly, you need to have an insurance policy of some sort with USAA and/or accounts with them.

    Secondly, used car prices have skyrocketed. I have looked at Manheim, which is the auctions, and prices have been unbelievable.

    I would buy the new car, not the used car, for sure. I paid under 47K for mine with the discounts.

    Hope this "food for thought" has been helpful.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    Can you tell me what the second 1500 discount was for?? Also, if you use the USAA buying service they get you the car for 49K, and then you print a coupon and take to dealer. So, I'm guessing that you do not use the buying service but just tell them you are entitled to the discount at the dealer.
    Also, does anyone know then the 4000 rebate for USAA ends, some places say July 31, and others say August.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    I brought my ID number from USAA to the dealership. They applied for and received the $4000 coupon from USAA via and email from them.

    I believe this is good until August 31, 2011. Check back on this forum site to about 2 weeks ago, I believe the date was listed there.

    I received an additional $1500 because I was a loyal customer of theirs. I've purchased 5 Benz autos from them in the past couple of years, so they said I qualified for an additional incentive, which they had.

    USAA will show you the actual vehicle invoice cost when you look it up after you have built your car the way you want.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    Thanks for the reply. I see that some local dealers have 2011 CPO E350's and are asking the same price for the car as if it was new. I don't understand the logic at all except that you get an extra year of warranty. Can't see anyone buying it thought, because they told me you cant lease it, and the interest rates on preowned are about .5% higher then buying new.
  • gosox1gosox1 Posts: 17
    Hi, this thread has been insightful, only wished I had read it earlier in the buying process. :)

    We picked up today 2011 E350 4matic that was $58,525 MSRP and got $8200 off, plus a service coupon.

    The GM did clarify to me that the Conquest was $4K this month (give copy of registration). I could not get any loyalty discount as well, (stated prior as ~1500) as we were told it was one or the other and that the loyalty was for someone financing thru MB. We do have a MB, but not purchased at this dealer.

    With other dealers I mentioned wanting both program discounts, but only got conquest discount.

    Say Abacomike, I know that you said you've bought a few MBs from same dealer, i was wondering if you give them a trade-in or something that helps them get to your great purchase prices?

    Thanks.

    p.s., The car is elegant and all, but I think the variable assist steering and heavy weight and feeling of not so quick acceleration make it a pure luxury car and not as sporty as BMW/Audi lines. Next time, I'll get the E550 :shades:
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    I do trade my vehicles, but they give me $1500 to $2000 over Manheim because they sell my preowned cars on their lot ( I only put on about 6,000 miles per year) and I buy a new one every year. So I get the USAA discount (invoice less their incentive, which was $4,000 last month) less $1500 because I do finance with MB Finance along with 1.9% APR which is their buy rate). They gave me $44,500 for my trade ( I only paid 48K for the car when I bought it).

    They just give me their very best pricing (they beat all the other dealers here in South Florida by thousands) because I buy a car from them every year and refer many associates and friends to their dealership.

    Hope this helps understanding how I get the best pricing. I would assume not everyone can get this at their dealership. But I have seen pricing on this forum that comes pretty close to what I get. I just seem to get a great upfront deal along with high trade in values since they can sell the vehicle on their lot and they don't have to wholesale it.

    They sold my trade from last month for $48,500, and gave me 44,500, or $4000 over what they gave me. They had to get the car certified, which costs them about $1500 or so. What I don't understand is how they can sell my year old car for a little more than I paid for my new 2011. I know the used car market is booming (prices have risen an average of 15% on used cars of the last year.

    Good LUck

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • jwilliams2jwilliams2 Posts: 910
    Must be really strong if they resold your car for more than you paid for it new.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    edited July 2011
    The car had 4800 miles on it. it was in perfect condition, no dings, scratches, etc. NOne of the cars I trade have any mars or defects on them. I am sure if it did, I could not have gotten what I got out of it.

    They advertised the car for 49,990 on the lot. Most people would have to pay 52,000 for a new 2011. So I guess they figured that it was a great deal. Remember, there is a sucker born every minute, and most of those suckers don't read the forum here on Edmunds.

    Also, remember that they got the car certified which means the warranty goes to a total of 100K and 7 years. So to some people, it is worth it.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    Can anyone explain why when I build the car at edmonds.com (E350 sport 4matic, Black/Black MB Tex, Premium 1 and wheel pkg) the incoice is 53569 and when I build on USAA.com the Invoice is 57603? The Edmonds price minus USAA discount gets me under 50K but the USAA site shows me at 53K AFTER rebate??
    Thoughts??
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 8,812
    The price you received from USAA is the MSRP of the vehicle. When you get the USAA final price, it should be invoice less $4000.00. So something is wrong. I did it and it showed the invoice less $4000.

    Are you sure you are using the site correctly? Double check or call USAA and speak with a customer service rep. If you qualify, they will give you the info on the phone.

    2018 Mercedes S450

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