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Toyota Land Cruiser



  • The Cruiser only comes in 4WD and loaded with most goodies. There are few options like navigation and bling bling wheels. But the base model is very well equipped.
  • I may have been too skeptical. If a decent '03 TLC still in warrranty at 16,000 miles can be had for 41K asking, this is a good deal. What the heck, that is about the same price as a used '04 Denali which will be worth less than the floormats alone in the TLC in 5 or 6 years.
  • mercaramercara Posts: 291


    You are probably right. I didn't even bother calling them as the price sounded too good to be true. I figured it was like "We are sorry that particular truck has been sold, But we have a similar one for 47K". Besides, if I want the NAV.
  • I bought my truck with 18,000 miles for $42,000 so it's not ridiculous, simply a wholesale price.
  • Have a 2001 LC that we bought new. Shortly after the 60K service at the dealer, the VSC lights came on and stay on. Dealer hooked it up to the diagnostic computer and found nothing wrong with it. They noticed that the "P" light in the dashboard was out and thought maybe it was a related electrical problem. They replaced the "P" light (little bugger cost over $200 in labor to fix; they had to take apart the dash) and for two days, the VCS lighs stayed off and the "P" lights worked. All of a sudden, the lights came back on and the "P" light doesn't work. I'm of course going back to the dealer, but does anyone have a clue as to what the problem is (the car rides fine)? Also, can anyone recommend a LC "expert" mechanic (either dealership or independent) on Long Island NY who may have the experience and expertise to work on this (I go to the local dealer in Amityville and I don't think they work on many LCs).


  • mercaramercara Posts: 291
    FJ Cruiser to be unveiled at Chicago Autoshow according to a number of online articles.
  • I was told from my at friend at toyota that they will build the FJ but don't know if it will come out as a 06 or 07 model year. When i hear more i will let you know
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 18,331
    Off the top of my head no! But why are you looking to the new Sequoia? I have a 96 TLC and it has 60k. (low low mileage). Most people remark that it looks and smells new. This things are EASILY good to 250,000 and beyond.


    If you are interested in an Escalade, get a used one. I understand they DROP (depreciate) like a heavy boulder. :) :(
  • If someone wants to buy from the General, why buy the A Denali is less money without the 'tude.
  • mercaramercara Posts: 291
    I was looking at the latest issue of Money magazine. Has a good article on residual value of most cars/suvs/pickups. The Escalade EXT seems to hold it's value well.
  • amg2yamg2y Posts: 1
    Hi Tia,

    I own a 96 Tlc and loving it since i got it back in 2001. It has 103k miles on it when i got it. it's been running great since.

    So far i only been doing regular maintenance, oil change, trans fluid, differential fluid, grease on axles (greasing the axle is important, i usually add grease everytime or every other time i change oil. i was told that it the grease dried up and the axle messed up, it's going to cost arm and leg).

    Last year i had to replace the rod bearing, because there were slight knocking inside the engine. According to my mech. and toyota dealer, this is rarely happen. so probably just my luck.

    Now it's already 150k and still no problem.

    Anyway, back to your question.

    1. Mpg - 14 average city & hwy (I used to live in CA too)

    2. A/C is sufficient for CA summer, third row may need full blast though.

    3. Transmission, smooth

    4. Front pad seems to wear out faster than the rear.

    5. Insurance is about the same as any other car.

    I think mine was some $800/yr full coverage, 100/300k coverage.

    6. Just get a good test drive, check out the engine real good, make sure is clean, no funny noise, leaks, check the axles for leaks, things like that.

    7. at 70-90k i don't think there would be anything wrong. on a 96, it uses timing chain, so it is good for 250k.

    hope that help.

  • mercaramercara Posts: 291
    I am sure that Sequoia/LC debate is pretty stale here. I had look at an SR5 with Navigation and starndard options for 37K with incentives and 2.9% 48 months special financing in the NY/NJ area.


    I am a huge fan of the TLC and what I really want is an TLC. But sometimes I think it may not be worth the 20K more. I would gladly pay a 10K premium over the Sequoia for the LC. Heck, I would even pay 20 if damn Toyota would put the 280HP VVTI engine it it. I am really pissed at Toyota messing up with the LC just when I am in the market for a new SUV. What's really holding me back is the fact that they are still selling with the older V8. I don't want to shell out 60K only to find the 2006 models are out with a 5.0L VVTI with 300 ponies. That would hurt !!!
  • Has anyone had a problem trying to find a comfort zone with the heat set on auto. Example i have the heat set on 70 everything is fine 20 minutes later it gets cool and your wondering what happen than all of the sudden you start burning up have to turn it down? I have a 02.
  • Alright, I know this may sound funny but sometimes when I back my LC (05) out of the garage and up the slight incline of our driveway, I can smell sulfur/rotten egg type smell. I have not noticed it in any other situation; not a huge deal but just curious what it is.

    And no, it isn't me. and I can't blame it on the dog either.
  • Has it always done that, or just recently? I am in awe of the climate control in mine (05); I was somewhat concerned that dual-climate isn't an option but it works so well it hasn't been an issue... makes me think that yours might need to be looked over by your mechanic.
  • The GX470 has the new VVTI engine and only increased HP to 270, this will likely be the case with the LC given that the old HPs were very similar. This extra HP only kicks in at higher RPMS so its unlikely you will ever notice. I would be more concerned about torque ratings. I think the move to VVTI is primarily a marketing move by Toyota until they introduce a new engine in 2007/8.
  • Thanks for the reply i will have the mechanic look it over for me and see what they find.
  • ppdocppdoc Posts: 1
    if the land cruiser and the 470 are essentially the same why would the LC be rated to tow 6500 lbs but the lexus only rate for 5000 lbs. any ideas?
  • mercaramercara Posts: 291


    You got a point. The toruque is prety much the same. Somethingl like 330 vs 335 for the VVTI. I guess unless you drove at really high RPMs you probably don't feel the increase in BHP.
  • I noticed the same thing the other day. The temp went up and the airstream was uncomfortably hot, even though it was set to 68. The temp didn't perceptibly change until I set it to 64 and it went into "Max Cool" mode.


    I have since reset the climate control away from "Auto" (where it seemed to favor putting the heat out through the floor vents) to the top (not windshield) or top/bottom vents. On these settings the car seems to keep the temp regulated just fine at my setting.


    Some of this may relate to where the thermostat is located and how long it takes for the car to equillibrate. With such large volume of air to heat/cool it comes as no surprise that the system may heat unevenly or overshoot in some areas as it is attempting to satisfy the thermostat quickly.
  • serranotserranot Posts: 113
    Yep. The 470 weighs a lot more because of all of the luxury stuff. It's that simple.



  • I think we have an example of "Don't bother me with the facts, I've already made up my mind"


    There is a 200 lb difference in curb weight between the two vehicles (5590 for LX and 5390 for LC) and a 1500 lb difference in towing capacity.


    Guess it isn't "that simple".

    ( N.B.: he isn't an LC owner...just a lurker)


    Might it have something to do with the air suspension?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    ( N.B.: he isn't an LC owner...just a lurker)


    That is a non sequitur since lurkers do not post. In any case, let's stick to discussing vehicles and not each other.


    tidester, host
  • I could be wrong, but these tow ratings are misleading. The maximum numbers are usually with the vehicle in low gearing and diffs locked. If that is the case, because of the air suspension on the rear of the LX, it does not have rear diff locks; hence the lower towing weight.
  • I believe the last model year the LC and LX had independent front and rear lockers was 1999. Since 2000, the system is linked with ABS and VSC etc to provide the traction during compromising position. There still is center lockers in the equation though. LX and LC both have the same system.
  • tlcmantlcman Posts: 220
    I have never seen a UZJ-100 with front lockers, ive seen rear lockers but never front lockers and i belive 99 was the last year they were offered. Now maybe in different countries they had opt front lockers but lets rememerb that is some other countries the UZJ-100 has a solid front axle, and like here in brasil the Land Cruiser is a GS470 rebadge Toyota, mutch like when the US had the Lexus SC300 and SC400 and Austrailia had the Toyota Soarer (same car, but with loads more options and even more mechanical gismos)
  • As a follow-up to my prior message no. 4310 (reproduced below)I finally got around to removing the wiper cowl on my 98 TLC and applying felt between the cowl retaining clips and the windshield, as illustrated in the links in 4310 (which were directed to a RAV4 fix for the same problem). While the process was slightly different for the TLC, the solution worked just as well. My cold temperature-related rattles are about 95% gone. If anyone wants more detail on the process, I'd be happy to respond to any follow up questions.




    ____________Message 4310_____________________


    I have a 98 TLC and have been living with the temperature-dependent rattle noise for two years now, but the recent messages on this topic have motivated me to find an answer. In researching this issue on other Toyota boards, it appears that the RAV4 is well known as having precisely the same type of rattle noise that many of us have been experiencing (there was even a TSB issued). Apparently, the noise on the RAV4s is caused by certain structures associated with the wiper cowl contacting the windshield. The links below have a nice description of the problem/fix (with pictures). Hopefully, the fix isn't much different for the TLC. I'm trying it this weekend and will post the results here.






  • My Prior post:

    I have had an Fj80 for many years but have never had the problem I am having now in the middle of the Blizzard of 2005.

    Here in Connecticut its so cold that the middle seats will not stay down - I am guessing that the metal bars in the floor and on the clamp mechanism at the base of the seats that usually grip around that bar have shrunk below the minimum and cant grip anymore (I am sure that explanation is as clear as mud!). So the middle seat passengers pitch forward when the car stops... I dont have my third row in right now but this might happen back there as well if installed.





    New Post and Answer:

    Now its warmer weather - presto my seats stay down, so as I thought it was metal shrinkage!. I am surprised no-one else had ever had this problem.
  • hprjrhprjr Posts: 24
    philq87-did your mechanic find a problem with your heater/ac output. I have a '02 LC with the same problem-either blows lots of cold air or too much hot air when set on 70 or so degrees in the winter. Thanks for any help.
  • no not yet hprjr will go in a couple weeks.will keep you up to date on all that i fine out.
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