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Toyota Land Cruiser



  • joeeblow1joeeblow1 Posts: 238
    If anything, getting 12MPG means I would pay more attention to what gas costs. If you got 30MPG, then it wouldn't matter what you pay.
  • Anyone know what the approximate life expectancy of the stock shocks are? I live in San Diego and the roads are not in the best of shape; genius burocracy thought it a better idea to build a ball-park than maintain streets and water pipes. I've done mainly around-town and highway driving and it seems like the ride has become harder. I've got an appointment to throw some new shocks on tomorrow, but I'm wondering if it's necessary, or if it's in my head. Anyone with comparable miles (80,000)had shocks replaced? At how many miles?

  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    I have read that the TLC's shocks are HEAVY DUTY. Of course, i have no idea what that means. However, Toyota shocks are made by Tokico, which is a respectable shock company. If the TLC shocks are MONOTUBE (high-pressure) and of high quality, then they should last a very long time...maybe even the life of the vehicle. Now, if they're TWIN-TUBE (low-pressure), which is what is found on 4Runners, then they may wear out.

    So, try and find out what kind of shocks are on your Toyota BEFORE replacing them...because if they're monotubes, then you're just wasting your money.
  • They are mono-tubes. They do wear out. My '91 FJ-80 were replaced at about 120,000 miles and they were completely shot. I didn't notice as they wore out gradually. When replaced, the ride was vastly improved and I felt like an idiot for not noticing sooner. Any tech guy have any feedback on this subject?
  • fj100fj100 Posts: 97
    I would say it is necessary to replace the shocks at 80k. I have a '99 with 65k and just replaced the shocks and added a lift and man what a difference. From a shock stand point the ride is lot less rough than with my warn out stock shocks. And the vehicle does not continue to bounce over big bumps on the highway like a cadillac, i guess it is called floating. Now it hits the bump, the new shocks absorb the bump and there is absolutely no floating.

  • rleongrleong Posts: 41

    I got 2000 LC and I'm looking for some services manuals. Should I buy the ones from the Toyota dealer or can I get always with the ones at the auto part stores?

    Where did you buy the service manuals and how much did you pay?

  • joeeblow1joeeblow1 Posts: 238
    Factory repair manuals are expensive, but they are the way to go. Check Specter's website for a price point (

    It looks like yours is split into 2 volumes.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Sometimes stuff like that shows up on eBay.

    Steve, Host
  • joeeblow1joeeblow1 Posts: 238
    Steve, It would be nice to get a heads-up when a change is made to the board.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Heads Up!

    change is coming
    change is good

    You wouldn't want to drive around in a 1969 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 all the time would you? Wait... bad example.


    Steve, Host
  • joeeblow1joeeblow1 Posts: 238
    The point is that the URL in my favorites no longer worked. And yes, I wouldn't mind driving around in a '69 fj40 all the time.
  • Cliffy, What is MSRP on 7yr/0 deductible Platinum warranty for a landcruiser?
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    You really want to know? Its high. Very high. MSRP is $2050 for the 7/100 and $1500 for the 7/75.
  • Thanks, Just wanted to compare to what I actually paid.
  • idahodougidahodoug Posts: 537
    On a TLC, shock life is likely to be well into the hundred thou range. I changed my 80 series at 110k and found the ones I took off were still smooth, solid and operated well. The new ones I put on hardly made a difference and were a waste. This on a vehicle that regularly tows, has air bladders on the rear axle to handle the tow load, and gets offroaded as well. The Tokico shocks are stout and have been on Cruisers for over a decade. Fortunately, they're also cheap as they're real shocks instead of a strut design, so no big deal I guess.

  • njpaguynjpaguy Posts: 55
    Forget auto store manuals. In your Toyota maintenance book included with the truck, they list a 800 number to call for service manuals. Spoke with a friend at a dealer to order them first, but he said the 800 number was cheaper...and he usually saves me a great deal on parts.
  • Changed shocks to Bilstein's today at 80,000...truck handles much nicer. Had several mechanics tell me that the stock Tokico shocks are pretty lousy. Whether it's racing or off-road, Bilstein seems to be the shock of choice. Can't say that the shocks we're completely shot at 80,000, but the ride sure is nicer. Also changed all four brake pads. Amazed I got 80,000 out of the original pads. FJ-80 ate breaks.
  • lpc68lpc68 Posts: 45
    a while ago i posted a message asking if anyone knew the difference between the 80 amp alt vs the 90 amp alt for my 91 LC. the toyota dealer i got serviced at didnt know. justed wanted to let the board know, if interested, that the brackets are different on the two amps and the 90 amp alt didnt fit on my truck. held my truck up in service for two days while they ordered the right part.
  • lpc68lpc68 Posts: 45
    my power steering pump is leaking at the back and i remember reading on the board that it was not necessary to replace the whole pump, just the seals.

    has anyone done this?

    How may hours should it take?

    as always, thanks in advance!
  • scifiscifi Posts: 54
    If you don't mind me asking...what did the Bilstein shocks cost? I recently purchased a 98' with 60,000 miles (I just did the front brakes though).
  • $68.00/per Bilstein says they're out of stock nationwide, but individual deals still have stock.
  • cadriencadrien Posts: 21
    issue with water on the floor is finally resolved. turns out the water was coming in through a body seam behind the dash. Guess that is one more place water can enter on an fj80. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.
  • idahodougidahodoug Posts: 537
    I'd disagree with that diagnosis and the fix. First, I'm in an 80 Series Cruiser club (members over 300 around the globe) and have NEVER heard of a seam problem on the cowl. Only plugged drains have caused leaks. This body is built by ARACO, not Toyota, because Toyota wanted the absolute best in build quality (see sticker on inner door). Second, why did it not leak since new? An open seam would have leaked from the day it left the factory (and flunked ARACO's 100% water integrity test, BTW)

    I'll stick by my "clogged sunroof drain" theory and either the dealer gave you the seam thing so they sounded like a hero (unclogging a drain isn't glamorous enough?), or they caulked a seam that had nothing to do with it and you're going to have a leak again.

    I hope it's gone, but...

  • mitrismitris Posts: 14
    First, thanks for all of the good advice the, with help from this board I ended up buying a 2000 TLC with 54000 miles for close to wholesale.

    I only got one key, the "master" key. Got the code from original dealer. Local service told me that I can get one valet key for $60.00 but reccomends getting an extra of the master for $300.00 as well as if it is ever lost computer must be replaced to match the chip. I hate to spend 300.00 on a key but I plan on having this for a while and it seems better than 1000. for computer. Thoughts?
  • Has anyone purchased and installed the "Xenon" headlamps that you can find all over Ebay? If so, has there been any improvement in the strength of the headlamps? My TLC's headlamps are a little dim and I am looking for an improvement.

  • rnb2rnb2 Posts: 17
    I want to thank those on this board who helped me make a decision. I took delivery of a 2003 yesterday.

    One problem however, the dead pedal came off. The salesman blames his prep people for not being careful. I suspect the original install was bad. In any event, I drove an hour each way today to get it looked at. The replacement part will arrive next week. A fascinating part, instead of being screwed down, this piece clicks in (probably for faster assembly). I'm willing to write it off as minor, although the problem could have been detected easily prior to delivery. I just hope that this is a fluke and that the rest of the vehicle is of legendary build quality.

    I'm not quite used to being called a sociopathic type looking for a way to intimidate others. My brother e-mailed me the following link <> to a review of the Bradsher book. I know the beast guzzles gas, but I was under the impression that it was reasonably safe on road. I also didn't realize that front wheel drive was the safest drive system. :-). But seriously, is this vehicle not very competent on pavement. I mean, I drove an Odyssey which didn't feel any more stable. I know its not a sports car, but I wasn't planning of driving it like one.

    Anyway, what is the roll over story on the land cruiser. Anyone care to prevent
     a case of buyer's remorse.
  • rnb2: If you don't mind, i have a few questions as I am also in Mass and looking at buying a 2003 LC. Which dealer did you decide on? Were any particularly good or bad? And how much over/under invoice did you pay? Just looking for advice as a potential Toyaota newbie and I hate to get stuck with a bad deal(er) as I have in the past with my Ford. Thanks so much!
  • mitrismitris Posts: 14
    Just interested in what you paid for your 2000 TLC and if you went with the extended warranty or not. If you did what co. you used? Also interested in what you did with the Key situation. Thx
  • 9411794117 Posts: 39
    ...for about $5K off list per
  • 9411794117 Posts: 39
    Overall, SUV's are the safest "type" of vehicle for the occupants. Toyota City's ARACO produces the highest quality SUV's in the world. I didn't really see myself in that article but of course my mileage is poor.

    The guvmint is working on rollover ratings that are dynamic. The current "tilt test" puts a car on a platter and lifts up one end until it rolls. The Corvette does great on this test but, in real life, has a very high rollover rate. Obviously, the TLC is prone to roll over but driver behavior plays a significant role.
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