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Dodge,Ford,Chevy------who wins?



  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    Actually, the F250-SD and the F150 are priced about the same. In some configurations, the SD costs less than the LD. You are correct in pointing out that the engine choice is different though -- you can't go smaller than the 5.4 V8 in the SD line.

    Anyway, the F250 crew cab XLT has an invoice price of under $21K, MSRP under $24K. That's hardly a giant leap from most of the LD extended-cabs.
  • ladyblueladyblue Posts: 326
    cdean is right. I would have prefered the crew cab, but my budget wouldn't allow it. Also, the 8' bed is important to me, so the short bed just won't do.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    Wall St. Journal says demand for trucks continues in 1999, surprising analysts expecting a slowdown. G.M. announced that for April they will ramp up production to 14,000 MORE vehicles, of which 13,000 are trucks, and 1,000 are cars. Did not say if the truck number included SUV's.
  • ladyblueladyblue Posts: 326
    I would assume they are including SUVs in that truck number. Just from observation of what's on the roads, it seems SUVs are more abundant than pickups.
  • RoclesRocles Posts: 985
    Been gone awile, we started a truss plant to complement our company. Maybe the truck increases are due to my firm? Four purchases this month! Long time kcram and cdean!Brutus still around? Did he ever get his truck?
  • cdeancdean Posts: 1,110
    yeah, he got it and went to Alaska. had some motor trouble, but he's happy and will be posting sometime this spring. Good to hear from you again. 4 purchases, must be signs of good times. what'd ya get?
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    hey Roc!

    Yes, you have been away awhile - heck, I even work here at Town Hall now :)
  • RoclesRocles Posts: 985
    Two single axle dumps and two Dodges-both one-tons with Cummins. I know what kcram is thinking but I will buy Ford again. We merged with a local developer/builder and my partner and our new associate are gung-ho Dodge boys.

    What kind of trouble did Brutus have? And how are you working for Edmunds?
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    Brutus' engine had a problem with one of the cams coming loose I believe -- Ford swapped a new engine in, no charge.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    I was referred to Edmund's by an outgoing host, and they asked me if I was interested in being a Community Leader (aka assistant host). Since I'm here all the time anyway, I said yes :) I updated my profile to mention it
  • blueblue Posts: 1
    I hope someone can help me with this dilemma; I'm nothing more than a businessman that will drive my truck more in city than off-road. However, I was raised in Arizona by a father that always drove trucks, hunted out of trucks, worked cattle in trucks, so on, so on. I WANT A TRUCK!!!! I've scoured the Web (especially Edmund's) for info on who had the best product; Dodge, Chevy or Ford. It's looking like Ford is the clear winner, but I'm really leaning toward Chevy. Although I'm generally in the city, I'll be towing a bass boat at times, and will do some very light hauling that your regular homeowner would do. Could someone give me the real-deal on this controversy?
    I test drove the Dodge Ram w/Extended cab and the 318 cu. in. engine. Posi-trac & HD everything is what I want to order on the truck, & this was comparably equipped. I was ready to buy, but a friend that works his trucks as they were meant to be worked (heavy hauling, towing, etc.) told me Dodge had the worst transmission in the business. He told me CHEVY!!!. Help!
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    Slow need to study all three more carefully. There are not just three trucks when you consider x-cab, quad cab, club cab, crew cab, long-bed, short bed, axle ratio, engine and transmission options, payload, towing, interior appointments, colors, tires and wheels. I suggest you visit, choose the "auto pricer" which leads you through the selection process, adds up the prices, lists the options and required combinations, gives you details and specifications and reviews. Then come back here for discussion. Ford may be the clear winner, that's what Consumer Reports says. Chevy may be the clear winner, that's what Motor Trend says. Dodge may be the clear winner, that's what ahem...dodgeram says. Who's right? Depends on you.
  • ladyblueladyblue Posts: 326

    quadrunner500 is a smart guy - listen to him.

    Take your time and really look at what's out there. I've owned a Ford F150, now own a Dodge Ram 1500 and I've driven a few Chevys. As quadrunner said, you can pretty much put together a truck that will suit your particular needs. And if you look around this Pickups Conference, you'll see pros and cons on all three makes.

    For me, I needed four doors, so that eliminated Chevy. And a crew cab would have been just too much truck for me. Believe it or not, it came down to something stupid like color and options, and a Dodge dealer who treated me much better than the Ford dealer.

    Good luck and keep us posted!
  • dodgeramdodgeram Posts: 202
    Thats right, I did say dodgeram is the clear winner because I own one, I drive the piss out of it and it hasn't let me down yet. I did crack the exaust pipe, thats because of it getting stuck really deep, about seven times in one day plowing wet snow for over 14hrs straight!. If that doesn't kill the tranny I don't know what will. But all is fine with the truck, and I recomend it greatly. Only buy if you like it. I love it and alot of other people like it as well, but some don't, thats fine, but don't like it because someone told you it might have transmission problems. Every truck wheither it's Ford, chevy, or dodge, they all had there share of tranny problems. You here of comments on this site of people having tranny problems with ford and chevy, but are you not going to buy ford or chevy because that you heard they have tranny problems to, I would think not, so you be the judge, if you like the ram by all means get one they look great sit high, and have all the creature comfort features today's, truck buyer is looking for. Too me the ford light duty trucks, look to swooping and doesn't look very tough, and the new chevs, they have yet to be proven, but it all comes down to you!

    good luck!
  • malibu1malibu1 Posts: 52
    Since the new Ford's are too swoopy and not very 'tough' then count me out!!!

    I need a truck that looks I have a lawn tractor that looks 'tough' but I am not going to pull my trailer with it.....
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    I'm not as smart as you are sweet! Thank you!
  • dodgeramdodgeram Posts: 202
    Malibu1, Long time no see!

    Aren't you the won who was whining about truck commercials.

    I see you found something else to whine about again.

    And yes tough is good.
  • cdeancdean Posts: 1,110

    have you any respect, class, or maturity?


    Whats the latest sales figures? you always seem to know where to look. :)
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516

    The March figures will be out on Monday or Tuesday, due to the Good Friday holiday. I'll put them up then. By the way, this marks the halfway point of the model year (Oct 1-Sep 30).
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    Hey, they don't call us "one-percenters" for nothing!
  • wantaf150wantaf150 Posts: 19

    Do you believe that the Ford F-series pickup is the best one out there? You seem to follow the industry closely and I was wondering what your "take" is on why the blue oval consistently outsells all other PU lines....I figure that it sells because it is the best built truck out you agree? Looking to but one in the next month or two.......thanks, Michael from TX
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516

    Ford sales are the highest because they have been quicker to give customers what they want from a truck. Ford, Dodge, and GM all make capable trucks; for most people, it's a matter of personal taste. But Ford was first with a new line of engines, Ford was first with a line of truly heavy-duty pickups, and Ford responds the quickest after someone else's product innovation to keep their customers. I had a pair of Fords before my current Ram, and I have driven GM trucks as well, and believe me, everybody makes both lemons and cream puffs.

    If you're undecided between brands, test drive them all, and let your body tell you what to buy - which truck "feels" the best to you.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    interesting that GM, normally very good about posting individual model sales, did not bother this month at their website. Automotive Industries won't post them for a couple of weeks, so we'll have to wait a bit for the accurate Silverado and Sierra numbers.

    Could GM be that embarrassed about having an overall decrease for the month in the face of Ford and DaimlerChrysler announcing yet more sales records?
  • cdeancdean Posts: 1,110
    Where on GM's website do they put those figures?
    Also what's the AI website, if you could please.

    I like to keep track of the boxscores, too :)
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    GM Press Releases - this is where they (usually) keep their figures.

    DaimlerChrysler Media site - Dodge numbers are always here every month - click on "Press Releases" at the left menu

    AI Online - Automotive Industries collects monthly data about 2 weeks late - they do not show Calendar and model year cumed numbers. This is also where I find the engine production numbers.

    PR Newswire - Ford News - this is where I get Ford numbers; their press release page does not give details
  • dave40dave40 Posts: 582

    Dodge is now German Dshungel = Junk
  • dodgeramdodgeram Posts: 202
    And what Gm is pure american? I don't think so!

    How about izuzu?
    Or partners with toyota, in some countries?
    and there alot more, there not the worlds largest automaker by themselves you know?

    And mercedes has nothing to do with dodge trucks, there biult here in america, (some in mexico) pure mopar parts, and chrysler design team in america desighned it, so only in company name is it half forgein.
  • Unfortunetly, there is very little "buy American" left to buy, what with the global economy and all.
    Besides, I think dave40 is really worried that a some of that quality Mercedes engineering will sneak it's way into Chrysler products. ;)
  • huntmanhuntman Posts: 25
    As far as the Ford, Dodge, GM debate, they are all very nice trucks and we are lucky to have three major competitors to keep improving our products. I bought in the last of Feb my 99 GMC Ext Cab SLT 4x4. I like the truck very well and it is the best one that suits my needs. We have driven many Fords over the years on the Farm and they are very tuff. We are looking to but a new F350 XLT 4x4 V10 for a Farm truck this uncoming winter. From my observations the GM trucks will get about two MPG over a Ford or a Dodge in most driving situations. Been getting 15 MPG with the Sierra, where our current F250 is getting about 8. The bigger extended cab and better gas milage is what drove me to the general. I have rode in the back of the old and new (much roomier) GM, the back of a Dodge for a four hour trip and couldn't walk for a day. The back of a new F150 for an hour and that was enough. And I have sat in the back of a new super duty. I feel that the super duty follows the GM's as far as room in the extended cabs. If a person can sacrifice having a fourth door for now, the GM is a good choice. My friends, family and myself have rode in teh back of my truck comfortable and it is not cramped. It all comes down to personal preferance and best of luck. My advice is to drive all three and find the one that best fits YOUR needs.

  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Big Three "Job 1" announcements for MY2000:

    Dodge Ram: August 2

    Ford F150/F250LD: August 23
    Ford Super Duty: July 25

    Chevy Silverado/GMC Sierra (new body):
    June 15
    Chevy 25/3500/GMC Sierra 25/3500:
    June 24
    (note - these were still listed as C/K, not a new design)

    Dodge Dakota: June 23

    Ford Ranger: August 2

    Chevy S10: August 16
    GMC Sonoma: August 9
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