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stickguy

So you wouldremount the old one for a few days then swap it out again? Sounds like a hassle. Could always get a steel wheel and keep it as a true spare!

carnaught

@venture, nice Subaru, really loaded!

oldfarmer50

I just saw something related to real estate transactions that I thought you might like to research.

The story said that real estate buyers are receiving phishing emails masquerading as legit sources directing them to send the down payment to a different "bank". People have lost as much as a million dollars.

jmonroe

stickguy said:

So you wouldremount the old one for a few days then swap it out again? Sounds like a hassle. Could always get a steel wheel and keep it as a true spare!

For a couple of days it might not be worth the inconvenience of a remount. But, I'm pretty sure I heard wait times of a week or more for the replacement tire to come in.

As for getting a "steel wheel", that would be the best way to go but in my case I would have had too many wheels that I would have had to get rid of too and that would have been a big inconvenience for me. It was bad enough getting rid of the tires once I felt confident that I wouldn't need that size anymore. At one time I think I had about six tires in the corner of the basement which is probably what led to Mrs. j getting upset.

Since we always have a choice, it comes down to picking your poison.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

So you wouldremount the old one for a few days then swap it out again? Sounds like a hassle. Could always get a steel wheel and keep it as a true spare!

There was a was a story on the news last night about how many cars don't come with spares these days (they were shocked). They recommended buying one even though the extra weight might impact mileage.

I had to think when was the last time i had a flat. It was a while.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

So you wouldremount the old one for a few days then swap it out again? Sounds like a hassle. Could always get a steel wheel and keep it as a true spare!

There was a was a story on the news last night about how many cars don't come with spares these days (they were shocked). They recommended buying one even though the extra weight might impact mileage.

I had to think when was the last time i had a flat. It was a while.

I myself would never consider the extra weight causing a loss of gas mileage. Hey, I own a V8 so you know I ain't lying about that.

What I would like is for the donut spare tire well to be large enough to get a full size rim and tire in it. I know this would take up easily accessible space if a full size rim and tire was not put there but I'd like the choice. This somewhat inconvenient space could always be used for something, especially when going on a vacation when most folks are looking for every cubic inch they can find..

jmonroe

dino001

snakeweasel said:

i have a question regarding the CVT, how responsive is it from a dead stop?  The reason I ask is that I have never driven a car with a CVT but I have ridden a few bikes with one. With these bikes there was some play in the throttle where I could twist it and rev up the engine but not engage the transmission. So basically you start twisting the throttle and the bike ravs up somewhat before the bike moves forward. 

This is in contrast to my bike which has a dual Clutch transmission and even the slightest application of the throttle starts to engage the clutch and moves the bike forward. 

The responsiveness as you described it would be very similar to a regular automatic transmission, as it goes through a torque converter rather than clutch. In terms of acceleration, off-the-line pickup and midrange is quite alright, but not spectacular, but higher speeds (60-80) are usually somewhat disappointing with smaller engines, as it robs the power and ends up winding them up without much of acceleration (engines are past their peak torque at those rev speeds and the torque usually drops quite fast). That was my 2.0 Legacy experience - I'm sure 3.6 has enough power for that. To be fair to CVT, I also experienced those high revs with no accelerations just the same on underpowered regular AT cars. Chrysler 200 with 4-cylinder engine was probably worst.

thebean

jmonroe said:

I have a suggestion for you guys with road hazard tire problems and having to wait for your tire to come in. You can do what I have always done. When replacing tires, I keep the best tire to avoid what has been mentioned.

The ones I've kept would have gotten me at least 1000 miles of driving if I needed to use them while waiting for the replacement to come in. The only down side is having to store the tires and explain why it's in the corner of the basement when Mrs. j asks, "what are all those tires doing there"? :@

Just trying to help my poster buddies.

jmonroe

Wow, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that @jmonroe (who squeezes his car deals down to the last dime) would change tires with 1K miles left on the old ones. I wonder how much money he has left on the table with all those still good tires in the basement. This has shaken my belief in engineers.

driver100

And he complains I left $200 on the table when I got the C250! I wonder how much all those tires would add up to?

driver100

This seems like a nice DIY window fix:

sb55

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

28firefighter

Looks great, @sb55 - enjoy!

jmonroe

thebean said:

jmonroe said:

I have a suggestion for you guys with road hazard tire problems and having to wait for your tire to come in. You can do what I have always done. When replacing tires, I keep the best tire to avoid what has been mentioned.

The ones I've kept would have gotten me at least 1000 miles of driving if I needed to use them while waiting for the replacement to come in. The only down side is having to store the tires and explain why it's in the corner of the basement when Mrs. j asks, "what are all those tires doing there"? :@

Just trying to help my poster buddies.

jmonroe

Wow, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that @jmonroe (who squeezes his car deals down to the last dime) would change tires with 1K miles left on the old ones. I wonder how much money he has left on the table with all those still good tires in the basement. This has shaken my belief in engineers.

I tend to change my tires a little early vs. a little late. It's a lot safer that way and I have never been sorry for doing it. I doubt the value of all the tires I've saved over the years could have paid for a dinner at Denny's.

As for having your belief in engineers shaken, I have battled the theory of engineers being cheap all my life. I'd say we are practical people not so much cheap. Sure I have known plenty of cheap engineers in my days but who in here has not run into cheap car dealerships, cheap shoe salesmen, cheap old book salesmen, cheap school teachers etc. etc. :@

I'm happy having done it my way, too late for a change now.

jmonroe

Michaell

Sharp looking combo, @sb55! That's the old Airstream, right? We'll get an updated pic with the new rig once you take possession?

jmonroe

driver100 said:

And he complains I left $200 on the table when I got the C250! I wonder how much all those tires would add up to?

I'm not complaining about how badly you were screwed out of $200, I was just pointing that out.

I've already answered how much my old tires were worth and how much piece of mind their early replacement gave me.

jmonroe

sb55

Michaell said:

Sharp looking combo, @sb55! That's the old Airstream, right? We'll get an updated pic with the new rig once you take possession?

Yes, that’s the old one. It’s a 2004 25’ Safari. New one will be 5’ longer. 
It’s weird how the camera changes perspective. Look how huge the Airstream looks when shot from the rear and a little lower.

jmonroe

@sb55, looks like you got in just over the wire mileage wise.

I doubt you'll have too much of a problem hauling around a full size rim and tire with that rig.

Have fun with it.

jmonroe

Michaell

I know there are a fair number of Seattleites on this thread; I found a pretty interesting article about the town and how the tech industry has impacted in - and, vice versa.

Seattle, Amazon, the tech industry and HQ2

stickguy

Speaking of spares, was pointed out a few times by salespeople how the Elantra now has a spare. When this body style came out, they went to a "mobility kit" instead. Though a spare and jack was an accessory. Salespeople admitted they got so much blowback, Hyundai made one standard again.

berri

I'm not sure losing the spare is really about weight. I think it has more to do with design and space efficiency personally. If the spare made that much difference, then two suitcases in the trunk would noticeably reduce mileage.

venture

snakeweasel said:

venture said:

dino001 said:

venture said:

The interior has perforated loleather seats and double stitched accents. Bolstering is subdued. Almost everything is soft and squishy.



Rear seats are heated and A/C and heat vents go there as well as 2 powered USB ports.

This car has navigation with SiriusXM Traffic Weather & TravelLink, EyeSight (Pre-Collision braking, lane departure warning, Adaptive cruise control, Lane keep Assist), Reverse Automatic Braking System, High beam assist, remote start, and a CD player. These models all have, LED steering responsive headlights and LED taillights, Android Auto & Apple CarPlay, blind spot detection with rear cross traffic alert, 6 cylinder 256 HP engine, LED fog lights, keyless access and push button start, a 576 watt 12 speaker Harman Kardon audio system, and probably other stuff.

We made 2 trips to Baltimore in the last week (360 miles round trip) to see the new grand son and it didn't miss a beat.

Nice car. I'm a two-time Subaru owner, so I totally get the attraction. Subaru would include majority of the popular items in the standard and their 3.6 trims are usually quite opulent when comparing with other Japanese and domestic makes. I never particularly cared for the CVT, had it on a rental Legacy 2.0 during a two-week trip in Colorado. It was quite alright at low speeds, I found it underwhelming in highway acceleration situations (lots of noise not much acceleration). Perhaps it was the engine rather than the transmission. I'm sure 3.6 is has a much stronger response at highway speeds. The gas mileage was excellent, though - best in AWD class.

The biggest attraction of Subaru is safety. On top of AWD and EyeSight gadget, which both improve "active safety" (collision avoidance and handling), their crash test results are unparalleled in the segment. Subaru made a decision around early 2000s to build cars that will only perform at top level of every crash tests IIHS performs and they did. Unlike government, IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) has been steadily raising the standard, ever increasing difficulty and severity of crash test scenarios and introducing new measuring techniques, effectively moving the goal post in safety standard (which is how it should be), and Subaru has always cleared the bars, most of the time in first attempt. One year they had an issue with their new 2004 Legacy not passing side impact test at highest levele ("Good"). They immediately redesigned the door structure and requested a retest for 2005 model - and it passed. They present that safety angle in their commercials, but I don't think the public appreciates how really committed they are to that. When it comes to safety, people often think of Volvo, which was the pioneer of safety in 70s. In my opinion they are better in "being Volvo" today than Volvo itself. Despite commercials, Subaru's safety is a best kept secret.

How much did it cost?

I never cared for a CVT either. Remarkably they have managed to imitate a 6 speed automatic pretty well.

The 3.6 engine excels in the 40 to 80 mph range. I think it's considered a slow-poke for the class, but I don't know why. 0-60 times I guess. My boy racer days have come and gone though.

Sticker was a shade under $36k, but it has every option except for the side rubber thingys and ash tray (nickel & dime) things.

i have a question regarding the CVT, how responsive is it from a dead stop?  The reason I ask is that I have never driven a car with a CVT but I have ridden a few bikes with one. With these bikes there was some play in the throttle where I could twist it and rev up the engine but not engage the transmission. So basically you start twisting the throttle and the bike ravs up somewhat before the bike moves forward. 

This is in contrast to my bike which has a dual Clutch transmission and even the slightest application of the throttle starts to engage the clutch and moves the bike forward. 

The response is immediate. Actually it feels like a regular auto.

berri

Unless the car is a muscle type car, I think today it is much about nothing. The cvt has come a long way from a few years back. In fact these 8+ speed automatics seem more intrusive when I drive them.

venture

Michaell said:

@venture - nice write up. Very similar to my wife's 2015 Outback - we, too, have the 3.6 H6 engine, and I'll second every one of your comments about it, and the transmission.

Love the active safety features, particularly the adaptive cruise control - great for long road trips here in the west. I think this one is a keeper for a good, long time. And, it doesn't hurt that it has only about 23,000 miles after 2.5 years.

Should we decide to sell or trade, we will get top dollar for it here in Colorado.

The adaptive cruise control is fantastic. I didn't use cruise for the first month I had it, but I did on both Baltimore trips as soon as my wife stopped screaming every time we snuck up on someone dawdling in the fast lane. It is very useful even in relatively heavy traffic.

venture

nyccarguy said:

@venture - nice write up on the Legacy. I'm really glad you are enjoying it. They seem to have made some steady improvements over my 2015 (which I thought was quite good, except for the lackluster acceleration). Funny you say you wanted to get away from the Ford Dealer, so you bought another Subaru. The dealership I bought and serviced my Legacy at was a Ford/Subaru store.

The adaptive cruise/EYESIGHT is incredible as is Subaru's record for safety. My neighbor hit a deer going 70+ somewhere in western (maybe on the Turnpike) in an Outback. His wife got hurt, but the EMTs were shocked that anybody walked away from the crash.

@28firefighter - great job with selling your place!

@graphicguy & @pensfan83 - I saw a Black TLX SH AWD ASPEC today. Sparkling clean. Very sharp!

Strangely enough, where I got my Legacy is also a Ford/Subaru dealer. You wouldn't think the service departments could be that different, but it's the people.

venture

ab348 said:

venture said:

I never cared for a CVT either. Remarkably they have managed to imitate a 6 speed automatic pretty well.

The 3.6 engine excels in the 40 to 80 mph range. I think it's considered a slow-poke for the class, but I don't know why. 0-60 times I guess. My boy racer days have come and gone though.

Sticker was a shade under $36k, but it has every option except for the side rubber thingys and ash tray (nickel & dime) things.

That car looks pretty good - Subaru styling used to really turn me off because it didn't seem like they cared about styling much and the cars could look pretty stodgy. This one is better. The interior looks really nice. I am biased against CVTs but they are becoming commonplace now so I am guessing the newer ones work OK.

The one thing I can't get past with them are the engines. I hear they have improved them in recent years but so many stories about piston slap and other problems with their pancake engines really turned me off. That, and the sound. My neighbor's Subie sounds like a sewing machine, though I think his is a 4-cylinder. The other thing for me locally is that the dealer is inconveniently located and does not have the greatest reputation.

It's certainly not the most stylish car, but then again neither am I...LOL. I know what you mean though. They are slowly attempting to make them look a little better.

When I bought my Fusion 3 1/2 years ago I drove a few Subaru's and couldn't get past the CVT's. This one is different.

I can hear my wifes Forester pulling in the driveway when I'm inside watching TV. It's a 4 cylinder though. They do have a unique sound.

venture

jmonroe said:

venture said:

The interior has perforated leather seats and double stitched accents. Bolstering is subdued. Almost everything is soft and squishy.



The center stack is good.



The area between the speedometer and tachometer is the info. center.



Rear seats are heated and A/C and heat vents go there as well as 2 powered USB ports.

This car has navigation with SiriusXM Traffic Weather & TravelLink, EyeSight (Pre-Collision braking, lane departure warning, Adaptive cruise control, Lane keep Assist), Reverse Automatic Braking System, High beam assist, remote start, and a CD player. These models all have, LED steering responsive headlights and LED taillights, Android Auto & Apple CarPlay, blind spot detection with rear cross traffic alert, 6 cylinder 256 HP engine, LED fog lights, keyless access and push button start, a 576 watt 12 speaker Harman Kardon audio system, and probably other stuff.

We made 2 trips to Baltimore in the last week (360 miles round trip) to see the new grand son and it didn't miss a beat.

You're just trying to tick me off, huh? :@

jmonroe

That was my ultimate goal.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

So you wouldremount the old one for a few days then swap it out again? Sounds like a hassle. Could always get a steel wheel and keep it as a true spare!

There was a was a story on the news last night about how many cars don't come with spares these days (they were shocked). They recommended buying one even though the extra weight might impact mileage.

I had to think when was the last time i had a flat. It was a while.

I myself would never consider the extra weight causing a loss of gas mileage. Hey, I own a V8 so you know I ain't lying about that.

What I would like is for the donut spare tire well to be large enough to get a full size rim and tire in it. I know this would take up easily accessible space if a full size rim and tire was not put there but I'd like the choice. This somewhat inconvenient space could always be used for something, especially when going on a vacation when most folks are looking for every cubic inch they can find..

jmonroe

I'm thinking of hauling moonshine in the empty spare wheel well of my Mustang. At least I can outrun John Law if I have to.

oldfarmer50

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

Wait, you live in a vacation paradise, people come to you. Where could you possibly be going with that rig that's better than walking out the door?

oldfarmer50

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

Wait, you live in a vacation paradise, people come to you. Where could you possibly be going with that rig that's better than walking out the door?

oldfarmer50

jmonroe said:

thebean said:

jmonroe said:

I have a suggestion for you guys with road hazard tire problems and having to wait for your tire to come in. You can do what I have always done. When replacing tires, I keep the best tire to avoid what has been mentioned.

The ones I've kept would have gotten me at least 1000 miles of driving if I needed to use them while waiting for the replacement to come in. The only down side is having to store the tires and explain why it's in the corner of the basement when Mrs. j asks, "what are all those tires doing there"? :@

Just trying to help my poster buddies.

jmonroe

Wow, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that @jmonroe (who squeezes his car deals down to the last dime) would change tires with 1K miles left on the old ones. I wonder how much money he has left on the table with all those still good tires in the basement. This has shaken my belief in engineers.

I tend to change my tires a little early vs. a little late. It's a lot safer that way and I have never been sorry for doing it. I doubt the value of all the tires I've saved over the years could have paid for a dinner at Denny's.

As for having your belief in engineers shaken, I have battled the theory of engineers being cheap all my life. I'd say we are practical people not so much cheap. Sure I have known plenty of cheap engineers in my days but who in here has not run into cheap car dealerships, cheap shoe salesmen, cheap old book salesmen, cheap school teachers etc. etc. :@

I'm happy having done it my way, too late for a change now.

jmonroe

My dad was an engineer and he was never cheap with his family. When my parents passed and I was cleaning out their house i was impressed that the bedroom furniture was the same they had from when i was a kid. An engineer would never throw out anything that still served it's purpose for the sake of style.

oldfarmer50

venture said:

Michaell said:

@venture - nice write up. Very similar to my wife's 2015 Outback - we, too, have the 3.6 H6 engine, and I'll second every one of your comments about it, and the transmission.

Love the active safety features, particularly the adaptive cruise control - great for long road trips here in the west. I think this one is a keeper for a good, long time. And, it doesn't hurt that it has only about 23,000 miles after 2.5 years.

Should we decide to sell or trade, we will get top dollar for it here in Colorado.

The adaptive cruise control is fantastic. I didn't use cruise for the first month I had it, but I did on both Baltimore trips as soon as my wife stopped screaming every time we snuck up on someone dawdling in the fast lane. It is very useful even in relatively heavy traffic.

Ha ha wives. What would we do without them?

Hey, where's Kristie who use to chastize me for my traditional gender role statements ?

dino001

ab348 said:

The one thing I can't get past with them are the engines. I hear they have improved them in recent years but so many stories about piston slap and other problems with their pancake engines really turned me off. That, and the sound. My neighbor's Subie sounds like a sewing machine, though I think his is a 4-cylinder. The other thing for me locally is that the dealer is inconveniently located and does not have the greatest reputation.

Funny, I thought the engine sound was the best feature on my past WRX and STI. Certainly not sewing machine - those were domain of in-line 4-cylinders. They were a bit louder at idle than many other cars. The huge boon to H-4 and H-6 engines was significantly lower center of gravity than any other engine - you could only get a similar effect with laying the in-line engines on their side, which you wouldn't want to do - in combination with the AWD and perfect symmetry of all drivetrain components (not achievable by any other designs, even longitudinal in-lines with RWD are not really symmetric) it a was wonder of handling.

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

And he complains I left $200 on the table when I got the C250! I wonder how much all those tires would add up to?

I'm not complaining about how badly you were screwed out of $200, I was just pointing that out.

I've already answered how much my old tires were worth and how much piece of mind their early replacement gave me.

jmonroe

The C250 gives me peace of mind and it was well worth the $200 I paid....or I would have lost it!

driver100

sb55 said:

Michaell said:

Sharp looking combo, @sb55! That's the old Airstream, right? We'll get an updated pic with the new rig once you take possession?

Yes, that’s the old one. It’s a 2004 25’ Safari. New one will be 5’ longer. 
It’s weird how the camera changes perspective. Look how huge the Airstream looks when shot from the rear and a little lower.

Are you sure that is the same trailer? What a difference the camera angle makes.
Camera angle can make it look like this;

tjc78

stickguy said:

Speaking of spares, was pointed out a few times by salespeople how the Elantra now has a spare. When this body style came out, they went to a "mobility kit" instead. Though a spare and jack was an accessory. Salespeople admitted they got so much blowback, Hyundai made one standard again.

Mine is a really early 2017 and it has a donut.  I wonder if they only did that on the stripper models.  

ab348

Neither of my ATS models had a spare. Nor a jack, etc. I carry around a 12V compressor in the area below the trunk liner and I might buy a can of fix-a-flat too but I think they figure you get roadside assistance with the car and that is essentially your safety net.

This what you see when you lift up the trunk liner:

stickguy

I think they took it out of all elantras. But a lot had it added as an accessory for about $250. What I find silly is that most cars (like the Acura sedans) still had the wheel well, including the flange the bolt goes into, just filled in with a foam plug with spaces for the infiltrator pump and fix a flat can. so might save a few pounds, but gain no space efficiency.

driver100

ab348 said:

Neither of my ATS models had a spare. Nor a jack, etc. I carry around a 12V compressor in the area below the trunk liner and I might buy a can of fix-a-flat too but I think they figure you get roadside assistance with the car and that is essentially your safety net.

This what you see when you lift up the trunk liner:

Ab, doesn't your ATS have run flat tires? I don't think fix-a-flat would work on RFTs.

nyccarguy

@sb55 - the airstream hooked up to the new truck looks great!  Happy trails my friend!

berri

Loading up an Airstream this time of year. Heading to Melbourne FL for the winter OF? I recall years back there was an Airstream only trailer park right near the Melbourne FL airport.

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

venture said:

Michaell said:

@venture - nice write up. Very similar to my wife's 2015 Outback - we, too, have the 3.6 H6 engine, and I'll second every one of your comments about it, and the transmission.

Love the active safety features, particularly the adaptive cruise control - great for long road trips here in the west. I think this one is a keeper for a good, long time. And, it doesn't hurt that it has only about 23,000 miles after 2.5 years.

Should we decide to sell or trade, we will get top dollar for it here in Colorado.

The adaptive cruise control is fantastic. I didn't use cruise for the first month I had it, but I did on both Baltimore trips as soon as my wife stopped screaming every time we snuck up on someone dawdling in the fast lane. It is very useful even in relatively heavy traffic.

Ha ha wives. What would we do without them?

Hey, where's Kristie who use to chastize me for my traditional gender role statements ?

Don't poke the bear OF.

andres3

fintail said:

Seattle has but one IKEA, and it is always a zoo. I might visit every other year. I find the food section the most interesting, as I am not much of a decorator, and don't have much room for idle furniture. Entering through the register area is a good idea for that.

I have an IKEA TV cabinet made in Germany, and a pair of low dressers made in Poland. Some of the sourcing there can be odd. A lot of far eastern stuff hiding under the Scandinavian theme, however.

I too have seen a couple items "made in Germany" at Ikea. I think I've seen Sweden too. So it's a mixed bag.

I have to say the stuff I've bought there has held up well.

sb55

oldfarmer50 said:

sb55 said:

Hooked up and ready to roll.
New truck has 530 miles. Phew, owners manual says don’t tow until 500 miles. By the time we get home it should have about 3000 more miles on it. 

Wait, you live in a vacation paradise, people come to you. Where could you possibly be going with that rig that's better than walking out the door?

You're right. We do live in vacation paradise, but we see the same view every day.
but, a change is very necessary after being "stuck" on the property and working as hosts for the past year.

driver100

sb55, when I worked for the publishing company we had one sales rep who would go to some distant relatives home and ask them if he could hook up his motor home to their utilities. Pick a place you want to go and see if you have a relative there.

nyccarguy

snakeweasel said:

nyccarguy said:

explorerx4 said:

@nyccarguy, When I read ab348's post, I thought you would be the perfect one to reply. Sorry I didn't notice it right away, I'm too busy watching the Yankees game.

GO YANKEES!

You do know that the Astros and the Yankees are just fighting it out to see who loses to the Cubs. 

As a baseball fan whose team went 108 years in between World Series titles, one might expect you to be a bit more humble.  One game at a time.  

LET'S GO YANKEES!

pensfan83

nyccarguy said:

@venture - nice write up on the Legacy. I'm really glad you are enjoying it. They seem to have made some steady improvements over my 2015 (which I thought was quite good, except for the lackluster acceleration). Funny you say you wanted to get away from the Ford Dealer, so you bought another Subaru. The dealership I bought and serviced my Legacy at was a Ford/Subaru store.

The adaptive cruise/EYESIGHT is incredible as is Subaru's record for safety. My neighbor hit a deer going 70+ somewhere in western (maybe on the Turnpike) in an Outback. His wife got hurt, but the EMTs were shocked that anybody walked away from the crash.

@28firefighter - great job with selling your place!

@graphicguy & @pensfan83 - I saw a Black TLX SH AWD ASPEC today. Sparkling clean. Very sharp!

I still have yet to see a regular, refreshed TLX let alone another A-Spec.

The dealer had a black one A-Spec with a black interior. Really good looking combo. However if I went with black I would be partial to the red interior.

qbrozen

berri said:

Unless the car is a muscle type car, I think today it is much about nothing. The cvt has come a long way from a few years back. In fact these 8+ speed automatics seem more intrusive when I drive them.

Not all are created equal, of course. The ZF 8-spd is fantastic. The GM 8-spd, not so much. The FCA 9-spd is absolutely awful. 

pensfan83

@venture I did try out the adaptive cruise on my way home from the airport Wednesday evening, as well as the lane keep assist/lane departure warning. First the former, it works very well and I can see why people like this feature, especially for long drives. It slows down, speeds up, and maintains speed well....very unobtrusively I might add. The lane keep assist works well too, it guides the car back into the lane if you start to wander and for about 20-25 seconds you can drive hands free before a warning flashes asking you to grab the wheel.

explorerx4

The 9 speed that FCA/Land Rover uses is a ZF unit.

ab348

driver100 said:

Ab, doesn't your ATS have run flat tires? I don't think fix-a-flat would work on RFTs.

Yeah, it comes with those. I have no idea about whether the tire goop works with them or not. Actually I was wondering more about whether it would ruin the TPMS sensors.