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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 150,755
    stickguy said:

    I don’t have the patience to do something that over the top either. But of course would never let my own car get that bad.

    Most of his videos are on vehicles that are nowhere near this filthy. Lots of farm trucks and SUVs.

    He did an Eclipse once and kept marveling at how fast it took him to clean it.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    As with most everything, having the right tools makes a huge difference. That scrubber brush and the steamer look need.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,551
    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    I don’t believe it. This has to be another made for the internet, get some clicks, home video. But if by chance I’m wrong, anyone who would try to clean a car like that has to have the same mental capacity as the owner of the car.

    jmonroe

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,314
    edited May 29
    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    When my wife worked at my son's school she sometimes worked the car line for the kindergarten and elementary school. She said that a large majority of cars had interiors that looked like the inside of a dumpster. On another board a moron said he quit trying to keep his car clean after he had kids- it was easier to "join in the fun." I told the dimwit that I didn't consider driving a car with an interior that looked like the inside of a rubbish bin to be "fun" in any way, shape, or form.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 12,961
    Here is a far more interesting and less disgusting detail job:

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,823
    Ha, looks like Youtube suggests the same stuff for us.

    Looking at that thing, happiness is being single. I bet the kids who belong to that van are unholy terrors, or the parents give them a long leash. I cringe at a water bottle in my car, not to mention any actual food - no dice.
    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,720
    My little one is allowed to eat in the car but I clean up after every ride and he helps me with it. He finds food on the floor and goes "ew gross!"
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,467

    My little one is allowed to eat in the car but I clean up after every ride and he helps me with it. He finds food on the floor and goes "ew gross!"

    Exactly. If you teach them to be clean any mess is quickly mitigated.

    For example. In the height of the quarantine I needed to get my two out of the house so decided on a long ride. The Volvo hadn’t been driven and was spotless. I didn’t bring any snacks, but did bring a water bottle for each.

    My daughter naturally spilled about half of it on floor. My son immediately tells me and says “I’ll help you clean it when we get home”

    The mat took the biggest hit and it simply dried outside.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,467
    jmonroe1 said:

    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    I don’t believe it. This has to be another made for the internet, get some clicks, home video. But if by chance I’m wrong, anyone who would try to clean a car like that has to have the same mental capacity as the owner of the car.

    jmonroe

    I am sure he only posts the nasty ones, but I have personally seen cars this bad. I’ll never get it.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,619
    My wife’s cars are always what I consider nasty. I can not clean mine for years and still not get to the level she does in a month.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,823
    I took my 9 year old niece for a few hour ride in my car a few weeks ago, taking her to and from my mom's house. She could only have water - no food, and her water bottle is one of the type that doesn't spill when tipped. I laid down the rules (don't touch the windows, no food) and she was OK - still tracked in an amazing amount of dirt though :)

    When I was a kid, my parents didn't keep that tight of a rein in the car, but I don't recall any big messes or even spills, I think my dad kept up with it and had us remove trash when we exited.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,363
    edited May 29
    Michaell said:

    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    I've been watching this guys thread for a few weeks now. He set up the garage in his house to do all his detailing; he posted a video of everything he did. Pretty cool setup.

    But, when he talks about how long some of these jobs take (that minivan was 20 hours), I realize that I don't have the patience to invest that much time into it.
    As I was watching him wash that van I was wondering what all that water was doing to his house. Those look like sheetrock walls. He better have a good drain in the floor.

    Also, 20 hours on a single job? How does he make any money? I can’t imagine a car dealer would spent that much reconditioning an old minivan. Most of them would just rip that mess out and replace it with an interior from the junkyard.

    Maybe he’s like Hoovie and he takes a loss on the vehicle but makes his money on the video.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 16,296
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    I was researching the capacity of my fuel tank here on Edmunds. It states I have a tank that holds 21.1 gallons. After further review in my owner's manual, it states fuel capacities fo all E Class sedans:

    E350 RWD 17.4 gallons
    E350 4MATIC. 17.4 gallons
    E450 4MATIC. 21.1 gallons

    I double-checked with several sites and all showed the same.

    I do wonder why the E350 tank is only 17.4 gallons - while the E450 is 21.1.

    Although you get unusually good mileage the E350 is rated as having higher mileage the E30 gets 23 and 32. The E450 gets 20 and 28. I am wondering if they do mileage tests with a full tank...they probably do. If that is the case, they probably prefer a smaller tank as it will weigh less and make mileage look better.

    I am also wondering, why make a different tank.....it costs more to make it different, but, maybe they don't want longer stops between fill ups on a model that costs less.....greater distance between fill ups might make someone buy the more expensive E450.
    I am not to sure that a smaller tank would make any noticeable increase in mileage. We are talking about a difference of 3.7 gallons which works out to be an additional 22.2 pounds which is a little over a half a percent weight increase on a 4k pound car.
    22 pounds isn't a lot on it's own, but when you do Driver100 averaging and add 20 pounds using aluminum instead of cast iron for some part, eliminate a spare using RFTs etc...you can get up to 200 or 300 pounds. The longest trip, begins with the first step...it all adds up.
    yes but when you are questioning if they do a mileage calculation with a smaller tank because it weighs less when filled then you are only shaving off 22.2 pounds. In this case it would not account for the different MPG figures between the E350 and the E 450.

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 16,296
    jmonroe1 said:

    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    I don’t believe it. This has to be another made for the internet, get some clicks, home video. But if by chance I’m wrong, anyone who would try to clean a car like that has to have the same mental capacity as the owner of the car.

    jmonroe

    Back in high school I was a porter at a Pontiac dealership (now a Honda and Hyundai dealership owned by Auto Nation) and I seen some messy interiors. Yes some like that one. IIRC we didn't take to much time cleaning them, the dealership really dinged people with messy interiors on the trade in value and they were sold cheep.

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 11,127
    GEICO giveth and GEICO taketh away!

    I just got my renewal from GEICO for my auto policy. When I bought the new car, my 6-month premium dropped to $175 a month from $204 a month. My new premium is $182 a month which includes a 15% reduction due to the corona virus. It just didn't make any sense.

    I called GEICO and they told me they had a rate increase for Florida last month which, in effect, did away with my 15% reduction in rates. The net effect is that my monthly payment remains almost unchanged from my previous policy term with the new car.

    So they raised rates 15% and then gave me a one-time 15% reduction in rates for 6-months. Unbelievable!!!

    So WHERE'S THE BEEF? Advertise a rate credit and then raise rates! Marvelous! 🧐

    2020 Mercedes E450 4MATIC Sedan

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 27,095

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    I was researching the capacity of my fuel tank here on Edmunds. It states I have a tank that holds 21.1 gallons. After further review in my owner's manual, it states fuel capacities fo all E Class sedans:

    E350 RWD 17.4 gallons
    E350 4MATIC. 17.4 gallons
    E450 4MATIC. 21.1 gallons

    I double-checked with several sites and all showed the same.

    I do wonder why the E350 tank is only 17.4 gallons - while the E450 is 21.1.

    Although you get unusually good mileage the E350 is rated as having higher mileage the E30 gets 23 and 32. The E450 gets 20 and 28. I am wondering if they do mileage tests with a full tank...they probably do. If that is the case, they probably prefer a smaller tank as it will weigh less and make mileage look better.

    I am also wondering, why make a different tank.....it costs more to make it different, but, maybe they don't want longer stops between fill ups on a model that costs less.....greater distance between fill ups might make someone buy the more expensive E450.
    I am not to sure that a smaller tank would make any noticeable increase in mileage. We are talking about a difference of 3.7 gallons which works out to be an additional 22.2 pounds which is a little over a half a percent weight increase on a 4k pound car.
    22 pounds isn't a lot on it's own, but when you do Driver100 averaging and add 20 pounds using aluminum instead of cast iron for some part, eliminate a spare using RFTs etc...you can get up to 200 or 300 pounds. The longest trip, begins with the first step...it all adds up.
    yes but when you are questioning if they do a mileage calculation with a smaller tank because it weighs less when filled then you are only shaving off 22.2 pounds. In this case it would not account for the different MPG figures between the E350 and the E 450.
    OK then, I have a new theory.
    Mercedes has a target for their cars to go at least 500 miles on a tankful of gas getting maximum mpg, and over 400 mpg getting lowest mpg.
    The E450 will be under 500 miles with a 17.1 tank, and under 400 miles city, unless it has a 21.1 gallon tank.
    Take that!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 27,095
    abacomike said:

    GEICO giveth and GEICO taketh away!

    I just got my renewal from GEICO for my auto policy. When I bought the new car, my 6-month premium dropped to $175 a month from $204 a month. My new premium is $182 a month which includes a 15% reduction due to the corona virus. It just didn't make any sense.

    I called GEICO and they told me they had a rate increase for Florida last month which, in effect, did away with my 15% reduction in rates. The net effect is that my monthly payment remains almost unchanged from my previous policy term with the new car.

    So they raised rates 15% and then gave me a one-time 15% reduction in rates for 6-months. Unbelievable!!!

    So WHERE'S THE BEEF? Advertise a rate credit and then raise rates! Marvelous! 🧐

    They are thinking once the coronavirus has ended you are going to go hog wild and drive your car double what you were doing before the virus. Therefore, it will all balance out!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 24,753
    edited May 29
    Gas prices went from $1.29 to $1.79 fairly rapidly as some states got back to reality. But the last week or so has seen that price go to $1.99, and now all the Shell stations are at $2.09 while other stations are doing a lowering to even $1.82. But those will jump in price with "restoration" commands from their suppliers. I estimate by Saturday all stations will be at $2.09 because Marathon subsidiary Speedway just went up at one station.

    Odd how all that petroleum sitting in the ocean that couldn't even be handled, all of a sudden has disappeared and refined petroleum is now more precious day by day. LOL

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 16,296
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    I was researching the capacity of my fuel tank here on Edmunds. It states I have a tank that holds 21.1 gallons. After further review in my owner's manual, it states fuel capacities fo all E Class sedans:

    E350 RWD 17.4 gallons
    E350 4MATIC. 17.4 gallons
    E450 4MATIC. 21.1 gallons

    I double-checked with several sites and all showed the same.

    I do wonder why the E350 tank is only 17.4 gallons - while the E450 is 21.1.

    Although you get unusually good mileage the E350 is rated as having higher mileage the E30 gets 23 and 32. The E450 gets 20 and 28. I am wondering if they do mileage tests with a full tank...they probably do. If that is the case, they probably prefer a smaller tank as it will weigh less and make mileage look better.

    I am also wondering, why make a different tank.....it costs more to make it different, but, maybe they don't want longer stops between fill ups on a model that costs less.....greater distance between fill ups might make someone buy the more expensive E450.
    I am not to sure that a smaller tank would make any noticeable increase in mileage. We are talking about a difference of 3.7 gallons which works out to be an additional 22.2 pounds which is a little over a half a percent weight increase on a 4k pound car.
    22 pounds isn't a lot on it's own, but when you do Driver100 averaging and add 20 pounds using aluminum instead of cast iron for some part, eliminate a spare using RFTs etc...you can get up to 200 or 300 pounds. The longest trip, begins with the first step...it all adds up.
    yes but when you are questioning if they do a mileage calculation with a smaller tank because it weighs less when filled then you are only shaving off 22.2 pounds. In this case it would not account for the different MPG figures between the E350 and the E 450.
    OK then, I have a new theory.
    Mercedes has a target for their cars to go at least 500 miles on a tankful of gas getting maximum mpg, and over 400 mpg getting lowest mpg.
    The E450 will be under 500 miles with a 17.1 tank, and under 400 miles city, unless it has a 21.1 gallon tank.
    Take that!
    Now you're making sense, now don't let it go yo your head there is a first time for everything.

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,551

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    I was researching the capacity of my fuel tank here on Edmunds. It states I have a tank that holds 21.1 gallons. After further review in my owner's manual, it states fuel capacities fo all E Class sedans:

    E350 RWD 17.4 gallons
    E350 4MATIC. 17.4 gallons
    E450 4MATIC. 21.1 gallons

    I double-checked with several sites and all showed the same.

    I do wonder why the E350 tank is only 17.4 gallons - while the E450 is 21.1.

    Although you get unusually good mileage the E350 is rated as having higher mileage the E30 gets 23 and 32. The E450 gets 20 and 28. I am wondering if they do mileage tests with a full tank...they probably do. If that is the case, they probably prefer a smaller tank as it will weigh less and make mileage look better.

    I am also wondering, why make a different tank.....it costs more to make it different, but, maybe they don't want longer stops between fill ups on a model that costs less.....greater distance between fill ups might make someone buy the more expensive E450.
    I am not to sure that a smaller tank would make any noticeable increase in mileage. We are talking about a difference of 3.7 gallons which works out to be an additional 22.2 pounds which is a little over a half a percent weight increase on a 4k pound car.
    22 pounds isn't a lot on it's own, but when you do Driver100 averaging and add 20 pounds using aluminum instead of cast iron for some part, eliminate a spare using RFTs etc...you can get up to 200 or 300 pounds. The longest trip, begins with the first step...it all adds up.
    yes but when you are questioning if they do a mileage calculation with a smaller tank because it weighs less when filled then you are only shaving off 22.2 pounds. In this case it would not account for the different MPG figures between the E350 and the E 450.
    OK then, I have a new theory.
    Mercedes has a target for their cars to go at least 500 miles on a tankful of gas getting maximum mpg, and over 400 mpg getting lowest mpg.
    The E450 will be under 500 miles with a 17.1 tank, and under 400 miles city, unless it has a 21.1 gallon tank.
    Take that!
    Now you're making sense, now don't let it go yo your head there is a first time for everything.
    You could be right but this may be the last sencible thing we ever hear from him and even this is a little shaky.

    jmonroe
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,338

    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    When my wife worked at my son's school she sometimes worked the car line for the kindergarten and elementary school. She said that a large majority of cars had interiors that looked like the inside of a dumpster. On another board a moron said he quit trying to keep his car clean after he had kids- it was easier to "join in the fun." I told the dimwit that I didn't consider driving a car with an interior that looked like the inside of a rubbish bin to be "fun" in any way, shape, or form.
    I can’t imagine ever letting anything get so bad, there’s no excuse. I would of had a case of the red tail by my parents if I trashed anything with careless abandon. I hate to know what their house looks like. Who knows it might be spotless.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 16,296

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,619
    One of our garage door openers has been throwing a fit lately, opening up when nobody is around or when you close the interior door to the house. I spent a couple hours messing with adjustments to no avail. Had "the guy" come out today. He said the circuit board is done. He tried to save me some money looking at this and that and seeing what little could be done. But, in the end, it didn't make sense to do it piecemeal when, for a few bucks more, we could get a whole new insulated door, wi-fi opener, and hardware package deal. And, of course, with a new door means doing all 3. So I got the wife, we made some quick choices, and placed the order. A hair under $4k for all 3 installed. And these are steel-backed R10-insulated, so a huge step up from the lousy single-sheet 17-yr-old aluminum ones on there now. Seems like a good deal. He estimates 3 weeks for it all to come in. Meanwhile, we gotta use that door manually, which is a big PITA, but what can ya do? I suppose I could swap motors with a less-used door. I'll have to see how much time that would eat up to judge the worthiness of such a project for 3 weeks of use.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    It would be easier to just swap cars around to put one you aren’t using behind the dead door.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,363
    abacomike said:

    GEICO giveth and GEICO taketh away!

    I just got my renewal from GEICO for my auto policy. When I bought the new car, my 6-month premium dropped to $175 a month from $204 a month. My new premium is $182 a month which includes a 15% reduction due to the corona virus. It just didn't make any sense.

    I called GEICO and they told me they had a rate increase for Florida last month which, in effect, did away with my 15% reduction in rates. The net effect is that my monthly payment remains almost unchanged from my previous policy term with the new car.

    So they raised rates 15% and then gave me a one-time 15% reduction in rates for 6-months. Unbelievable!!!

    So WHERE'S THE BEEF? Advertise a rate credit and then raise rates! Marvelous! 🧐

    What creeps!🤑

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,580
    @driver100,
    Nice of you to take the info my post and claim the thought as your own.
    Unless these are US models only, it probably has nothing to do with miles and is tied to kilometers.
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,363
    Yeah, those pigeon spy rings often use monkeys as muscle in their plots. They usually can be found in motorcycle gangs committing all sorts of crime including kidnapping.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    Insurance companies raising rates? I’m shocked I tell you, shocked, nay even stunned, to hear of such a thing.

    I’m sure they had an expensive last year with so many natural disasters. That outlay was always being made up by the customers.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 15,363
    qbrozen said:

    One of our garage door openers has been throwing a fit lately, opening up when nobody is around or when you close the interior door to the house. I spent a couple hours messing with adjustments to no avail. Had "the guy" come out today. He said the circuit board is done. He tried to save me some money looking at this and that and seeing what little could be done. But, in the end, it didn't make sense to do it piecemeal when, for a few bucks more, we could get a whole new insulated door, wi-fi opener, and hardware package deal. And, of course, with a new door means doing all 3. So I got the wife, we made some quick choices, and placed the order. A hair under $4k for all 3 installed. And these are steel-backed R10-insulated, so a huge step up from the lousy single-sheet 17-yr-old aluminum ones on there now. Seems like a good deal. He estimates 3 weeks for it all to come in. Meanwhile, we gotta use that door manually, which is a big PITA, but what can ya do? I suppose I could swap motors with a less-used door. I'll have to see how much time that would eat up to judge the worthiness of such a project for 3 weeks of use.

    You should try cleaning the cobwebs and debris off the bottom of the door. Even a few leaves stuck to the weather stripping can trigger the sensor to think someone is under the closing door. Just this week I closed my door and an hour later came back to a fully opened garage. Junk hanging off cobwebs triggered it to open.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,338
    Here's the momma TL out in the rain with her big baby RDX. SIL is visiting for the weekend and we've had monsoon like rain.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 27,095
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    I was researching the capacity of my fuel tank here on Edmunds. It states I have a tank that holds 21.1 gallons. After further review in my owner's manual, it states fuel capacities fo all E Class sedans:

    E350 RWD 17.4 gallons
    E350 4MATIC. 17.4 gallons
    E450 4MATIC. 21.1 gallons

    I double-checked with several sites and all showed the same.

    I do wonder why the E350 tank is only 17.4 gallons - while the E450 is 21.1.

    Although you get unusually good mileage the E350 is rated as having higher mileage the E30 gets 23 and 32. The E450 gets 20 and 28. I am wondering if they do mileage tests with a full tank...they probably do. If that is the case, they probably prefer a smaller tank as it will weigh less and make mileage look better.

    I am also wondering, why make a different tank.....it costs more to make it different, but, maybe they don't want longer stops between fill ups on a model that costs less.....greater distance between fill ups might make someone buy the more expensive E450.
    I am not to sure that a smaller tank would make any noticeable increase in mileage. We are talking about a difference of 3.7 gallons which works out to be an additional 22.2 pounds which is a little over a half a percent weight increase on a 4k pound car.
    22 pounds isn't a lot on it's own, but when you do Driver100 averaging and add 20 pounds using aluminum instead of cast iron for some part, eliminate a spare using RFTs etc...you can get up to 200 or 300 pounds. The longest trip, begins with the first step...it all adds up.
    yes but when you are questioning if they do a mileage calculation with a smaller tank because it weighs less when filled then you are only shaving off 22.2 pounds. In this case it would not account for the different MPG figures between the E350 and the E 450.
    OK then, I have a new theory.
    Mercedes has a target for their cars to go at least 500 miles on a tankful of gas getting maximum mpg, and over 400 mpg getting lowest mpg.
    The E450 will be under 500 miles with a 17.1 tank, and under 400 miles city, unless it has a 21.1 gallon tank.
    Take that!
    Now you're making sense, now don't let it go yo your head there is a first time for everything.
    You could be right but this may be the last sencible thing we ever hear from him and even this is a little shaky.

    jmonroe
    Nah, sound science!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 12,961
    I remembered last night that my MLB.TV subscription auto-renewed back in March at the $121USD annual rate. With no MLB likely anytime soon I thought I’d request a refund. I was expecting to have to wrestle with them but it was easy-peasy, no trouble at all and the confirmation was sent today. Good on MLB.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 27,095
    One more thing to worry about now....monkeys infected with Coronavirus....when will it end!
    Of course, this story was from the internet, so...........

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 11,127
    driver100 said:

    One more thing to worry about now....monkeys infected with Coronavirus....when will it end!
    Of course, this story was from the internet, so...........
    If this coronavirus we are all dealing with now was transferred from bats to humans, I would not be surprised if chimps, monkeys and other mammals might be susceptible. Let's pray the pharmaceutical companies come up with a vaccine that is effective in corralling this virus in 6-10 months. Then we can all breathe easier.

    2020 Mercedes E450 4MATIC Sedan

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    ab348 said:

    I remembered last night that my MLB.TV subscription auto-renewed back in March at the $121USD annual rate. With no MLB likely anytime soon I thought I’d request a refund. I was expecting to have to wrestle with them but it was easy-peasy, no trouble at all and the confirmation was sent today. Good on MLB.

    how did you do that? I had the same problem

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 27,095

    @driver100,
    Nice of you to take the info my post and claim the thought as your own.
    Unless these are US models only, it probably has nothing to do with miles and is tied to kilometers.

    Explorer...I missed your post....that happens to me if someone posts while I am writing a post...I usually check back and get them...but not always.
    I actually did the math and worked it out...that is how I came to the conclusion for max mileage at 500 total miles, and lowest mileage of 400 total miles .
    explorerx4
    Those tank sizes would put both models over 400 miles range for their EPA city mileage rating.

    Mercedes sells more cars in China, then they do in the U.S. and Germany combined. Chinese use Li's as a measure...usually a li is a mile, can't find what they actually use in cars or what they use for their odometers.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 27,095
    stickguy said:

    It would be easier to just swap cars around to put one you aren’t using behind the dead door.

    Always looking for the lazy way out! Hmmmm, management material! :p

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 12,961
    stickguy said:

    ab348 said:

    I remembered last night that my MLB.TV subscription auto-renewed back in March at the $121USD annual rate. With no MLB likely anytime soon I thought I’d request a refund. I was expecting to have to wrestle with them but it was easy-peasy, no trouble at all and the confirmation was sent today. Good on MLB.

    how did you do that? I had the same problem
    I used the “Contact” button on their iPad app and sent them a one-sentence message. They responded initially within a short time and then I got a confirmation email this afternoon that it was done.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,823
    That generation of TL is peak modern Acura, the zenith.
    sda said:

    Here's the momma TL out in the rain with her big baby RDX. SIL is visiting for the weekend and we've had monsoon like rain.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    that and the 1st generation TSX both were. equivilent to BMW with the E46 3 series and same vintage (E39?) 5 series.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,619

    qbrozen said:

    One of our garage door openers has been throwing a fit lately, opening up when nobody is around or when you close the interior door to the house. I spent a couple hours messing with adjustments to no avail. Had "the guy" come out today. He said the circuit board is done. He tried to save me some money looking at this and that and seeing what little could be done. But, in the end, it didn't make sense to do it piecemeal when, for a few bucks more, we could get a whole new insulated door, wi-fi opener, and hardware package deal. And, of course, with a new door means doing all 3. So I got the wife, we made some quick choices, and placed the order. A hair under $4k for all 3 installed. And these are steel-backed R10-insulated, so a huge step up from the lousy single-sheet 17-yr-old aluminum ones on there now. Seems like a good deal. He estimates 3 weeks for it all to come in. Meanwhile, we gotta use that door manually, which is a big PITA, but what can ya do? I suppose I could swap motors with a less-used door. I'll have to see how much time that would eat up to judge the worthiness of such a project for 3 weeks of use.

    You should try cleaning the cobwebs and debris off the bottom of the door. Even a few leaves stuck to the weather stripping can trigger the sensor to think someone is under the closing door. Just this week I closed my door and an hour later came back to a fully opened garage. Junk hanging off cobwebs triggered it to open.
    That was step 1 out of a couple dozen I went through. Having the door totally closed for an hour and then pushing down on it and having it motor open is not an interference issue. Certainly a security issue, though!

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    screwing around with openers is not fun. I still remember the first time I lost a tension spring. Close to Christmas, one evening, we heard a noise in the garage. so I go out there and see the spring (it broke at the top connection) just swinging back and forth, about 6 inches from the Nissan Quest we had bought about 1 week earlier. Nothing hit either car though, almost a miracle..

    I installed a couple in my younger days (one new house, from scratch including the brackets, and in this house, replaced units that were already there). But I don't like messing with springs, and the last couple that died, I just called "the guy" who showed up with new units, and did all the install and adjusting. which was a fine use of $ IMO at this point in my life.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 157,017
    Our opener crapped out after 10 years. Double door was 21 years old. Faces street, starting to fade, couple of stains. $2000 total for new door and opener, installed. Includes new rails, springs, etc. Seemed very reasonable.

    Also took about three weeks.

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

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  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 1,711
    sda said:

    tjc78 said:

    So my kids are 6 and 4 and know other than water or a crunchy snack there is no eating in the car. If they drop the crunchy snack I make them pick it up and toss it away.

    How in the heck do you allow this to happen. Gross.

    When my wife worked at my son's school she sometimes worked the car line for the kindergarten and elementary school. She said that a large majority of cars had interiors that looked like the inside of a dumpster. On another board a moron said he quit trying to keep his car clean after he had kids- it was easier to "join in the fun." I told the dimwit that I didn't consider driving a car with an interior that looked like the inside of a rubbish bin to be "fun" in any way, shape, or form.
    I can’t imagine ever letting anything get so bad, there’s no excuse. I would of had a case of the red tail by my parents if I trashed anything with careless abandon. I hate to know what their house looks like. Who knows it might be spotless.
    I know I'm a little late with this. Working every day sort of....well.

    A friend has a Jeep and two twin boys. The boys sit in the back seat. The entire front passenger area is filled with trash and some of the area in the back seat, between the boys, is similar. I've never looked behind the rear seats.

    There are times when he is at the ball field, parked right next to a dumpster, and I say he can use the dumpster if he wants to clean out some of the trash. He is just not interested.

    I don't get it.

    2020 Ascent Limited, 2020 Legacy Touring XT

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,682
    at some point it crosses over into mental illness territory. Like a hoarder.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 12,961
    A few years ago I replaced a late'70s/early '80s vintage GDO after it failed. Miserable job for one person. Lots of assembly, up and down ladders endlessly, finicky setup. Would not do that again.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,314
    qbrozen said:

    One of our garage door openers has been throwing a fit lately, opening up when nobody is around or when you close the interior door to the house. I spent a couple hours messing with adjustments to no avail. Had "the guy" come out today. He said the circuit board is done. He tried to save me some money looking at this and that and seeing what little could be done. But, in the end, it didn't make sense to do it piecemeal when, for a few bucks more, we could get a whole new insulated door, wi-fi opener, and hardware package deal. And, of course, with a new door means doing all 3. So I got the wife, we made some quick choices, and placed the order. A hair under $4k for all 3 installed. And these are steel-backed R10-insulated, so a huge step up from the lousy single-sheet 17-yr-old aluminum ones on there now. Seems like a good deal. He estimates 3 weeks for it all to come in. Meanwhile, we gotta use that door manually, which is a big PITA, but what can ya do? I suppose I could swap motors with a less-used door. I'll have to see how much time that would eat up to judge the worthiness of such a project for 3 weeks of use.

    We had the same issue- no "fix" worked so we went with a new opener. The only issue is the X1 and Clubman HomeLink receivers won't recognize the new transmitters.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,338

    The Accord doesn't have Homelink and I'm not keen on clipping the door remote on the sunvisor. As my sunglasses don't fit in the overhead holder, I put it to a better use.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,823
    I'm kind of shocked a new Accord, with its high feature set, lacks homelink. My 1998 MB had it. Is it something being decontended these days?
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,467
    Yeah Homelink has been around awhile now. Pretty sure my 2000 Solara had it and I know my 03 Avalon and 04 Grand Marquis did

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

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