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What I really think happened, is they saw a mature person drive up in a Cadillac, wanting to relive his youth (probably a little truth in that) who they perceived could afford it. They wanted to sit down a grind. I don’t do that. I made my offer stipulations clear. One offer, all in, yes or no!
Obviously, it wasn’t enough, but based on their tactics to get me back in to the store and the negotiation table, it must not have been too low of an offer.
And, you’re right. I’m not serious about any car I buy until I pull out my check book. But, if I say I’ll buy it at $xx,xxx price, I will indeed be a serious buyer if they agree.
Also, a lot of Sales Managers don't like a take it or leave it offer from a customers who has his arms folded and his heels dug into the ground and they will respond by doing the same thing. Had you said that you were willing to go another 200.00 he may have softened his posture...maybe not. In any event, I suspect that you weren't all that excited about the car.
Probably for the best that you didn't buy that Mustang, considering the dealership didn't have anyone that could drive a stick.
I can picture the phone call now.
"Mr Graphicguy, Don't worry. we have the best body guys in the business, they'll fix it up better than new".
Man! Dangerous.
2020 Ascent Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Hmmm...
The post he is referring to is from January 2019. Someone started a thread asking about a leasing broker website based in Illinois. I usually take these as shills trying to push their own business, so I like to dig a little (when I have time). In this particular instance, I found that one of the principals has done time for fraud in this very business. So I posted a link to his info and the article regarding his prosecution.
So I wrote back to this mystery person saying that, as recently as a Feb 2020 interview, the ex-con claims to be with the same family business for the past 35 years. If mystery man has some evidence to show that person is NOT affiliated with the company in question, I'd be more than happy to retract my statement. No response. That was 8 hours ago.
I'll leave the website name out of it for now, just in case. But the ex-con is Marc Zaransky. Quite interesting what you can find out there about this guy.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
She's 108. I've met her a couple of times and she's a pistol.
Here's a link from when she was 99 talking about growing up.
She survived getting the Spanish Flu, too!
https://patch.com/connecticut/farmington/amy-spirito-99-remembers-the-way-it-was
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
As I understand it dealers hate cash buyers these days because they make profit booking loans in F&I. So sometimes you can get them to agree to a better deal on the cost of the vehicle if you finance and let them make money on the back end.
Am I correct so far?
Now when it comes to financing less expensive cars is there a point where the loan amount is so small that it’s not worth the dealer’s time? Would a dealer still want you to finance a sub $10k vehicle? Would he make any money arranging that?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
I’m also talking about a good credit score buyer financing a smaller loan.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
If something major went wrong with the car, many times the owner would trade it in on something else.
My Uncle would fix the car and put it back for sale again.
Rinse and repeat. So many times I’d visit him on his lot and be like “Didn’t you sell that XXX?”... his answer “yeah but it’s back again”
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
He did have some nice stuff and also did traditional financing.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
As luck would have it, I bought the Cobra Convertible a couple of weeks later. Clearly I was in buying mode.
And, that’s how they do business. Buy running, but well worn vehicles at auction, clean them up. Throw a (used) battery or tires on it, if needed and sell it, repossess it, and do it all again. He once told me the least mileage on a vehicle he had on his lot was around 125K miles. Like police depts, he loved Crown Vics as he could keep them running for around 300K miles and then part them out.
He once had a lady who wouldn’t let his repo guy have the car she had missed 3 payments on. I asked how she stopped him. He said she decided to sleep in the car naked. The repo guy was afraid if what he’d be accused of if he towed it.
I never worked for him, but stopped by often as it was local to me.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Once a friend took his gas mower in to the repair guy, for about the 3rd time. The mower repair guy said there was no way to get it going.....and he sold him a new one.
My friend went back 2 weeks later to buy something else, there was the old mower in front of the store.....For Sale!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-businessman-fraud-sentencing-20150730-story.html
If anything happens to you Q we will tell the proper authorities who to check out.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
TTs as far as the eye could see.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
So I indicated that in the survey and respond "No" to the question of whether I was able to resolve the problem. At that point the survey simply froze - no way to continue, no way to submit the completed survey, no way to exit, nothing short of closing out the browser window entirely. Nice.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
jmonroe
2021 Genesis G90
Wouldn’t surprise me if the marketing department was tasked with finding out the reason for slumping sales and rigged the system to cut off any negative comments. They could then go to the boss and say gee, everybody loves us. No problems here.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Congrats to you and your son.
I couldn't find the car on their website either.
As my Father used to always say, "if you don't ask, you don't get". That's how I negotiate for cars.
I wouldn't want to work the crazy retail hours. Maybe 2 to 3 days/week.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Hard to sell it out from you if you made a down payment and have a contract. Of course, if the down payment is only $20 or something they'll sell it out from under you.
Not even JMonroe would have the nerve to go that much under asking price.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Well, maybe getting paid more.......😢😢😢
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
One good thing for your son is that generation of Fusion has more rear headroom than the current version.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible