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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,297

    @abacomike said:

    @benjaminh said:
    Maybe you should consider taking some road trips?

    I have 2876 miles on the odometer and the car turns 6 months old on 9/29/21. I take the car in for its first maintenance on 9/28/21 - it’s calibrated for every 6 months or 3000 miles, due to the short driving trips I take and very few highway miles. Maintenance is free for the first 3 years which includes wiper blades, brake discs and pads, oil and filter, all fluids, to name a few. Nice benefit for new car purchasers, if you can find one for sale.

    That’s what you get when you buy a wannabe. Don’t take offense, I worked with a guy once who always had to have a car in warranty. He used to say, “I always wanna be covered for engine problems and I always wanna be covered for transmission problems and I always wanna be covered for A/C problems and I always wanna be… “ I’m sure you get the idea since you have a wannabe. ;)

    We hope you’re feeling better today.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 17,975

    Everything goes wrong...

    Yesterday my wife's new transmitter for her two week Libre Freestyle continuous glucose monitor wouldn't work after the 1-hour startup period. I had to make a phone call to Abbott to ask for a replacement. Luckily she had one more in her 90-day shipment to use.

    Today my wife got a letter from the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services. I knew it had to be trouble before I opened it. Sure 'nuf: It was reminding her there were jobs available and other assistance available. It said since she had applied for and/or received unemployment in the past they were notifying her of moer help available!!!

    She never applied for unemployment. ID theft?

    I fished around on the website, since the letter includes no way to contact them to report fraud, and finally found a place on the ODJFS webside for fraud. Ssssssh. So someone else probably was getting the tax money we pay now and relaxing on a beach chair somewhere on unemployment money under my wife's name. I wonder if I would have received a 1099-G in January if this letter hadn't shown up.

    That happened to me early on in the 14 days to flatten the curve mess. I received a letter from the IL Dept. of Employment Security asking to confirm my change of address (apparently I moved to Memphis, TN). I reported it as fraud on their website. Both of my employers got letters from IDES telling them I applied for benefits. One was in a small panic over it but my main employer replied that I was still employed by them.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,888
    jmonroe1 said:

    @kyfdx said:

    More bacon news: Looked at the receipt when my wife returned from getting groceries. I only have bacon at Sunday breakfast, but at $2.50 per serving, I might be giving that up.. :(

    I think I just had 5 bucks worth but I’m worth it. ;)

    jmonroe


    I just provided tenderloin steaks for a family get together. $30/lb. $250 for about 10 people.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 25,991
    edited September 24
    If my wife had been getting that extra $600 a week unemployment, we could have
    traded in one of the cars and gottena G90. :)

    I'm really interested in finding out if someone actually defrauded ODJFS and got
    payment. My wife's record is pretty well embedded in Ohio records via her SS number
    and having a teaching license, which means the employment record with schools is
    easily available as public information.


    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,888

    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    I guess the plan for those that live in apartments is to WFH and take Ubers.

    or just go to Walmart whenever they need some juice? At least the one near me now has a charge america type station in the parking lot. Though not sure I have ever actually seen an EV charging there.
    I’ve never seen a charging station at any mall or store but I never really looked for them either. I suppose I should start.

    This brings me back to a question I asked before. If, when you need a charge and someone parks their gasser in the last spot, what is the etiquette or law regarding such behavior?
    Probably get to hear a long lecture about why you shouldn't park there.
    I think I mentioned this here before but a few years ago I was on the bike in a parking lot with a Prius right behind me. Well there was an open space right by the door so I took it. The lady in the Prius was a bit upset with me and told me that the spot was for fuel efficient vehicles only. Sure enough there was a sign that said that exact thing so I replied "I get over 65 miles to the gallon, what does your gas guzzler get?" Oh you should have seen the look on her face.
    I would pay to see that.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,888
    edited September 24

    Everything goes wrong...

    Yesterday my wife's new transmitter for her two week Libre Freestyle continuous glucose monitor wouldn't work after the 1-hour startup period. I had to make a phone call to Abbott to ask for a replacement. Luckily she had one more in her 90-day shipment to use.

    Today my wife got a letter from the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services. I knew it had to be trouble before I opened it. Sure 'nuf: It was reminding her there were jobs available and other assistance available. It said since she had applied for and/or received unemployment in the past they were notifying her of moer help available!!!

    She never applied for unemployment. ID theft?

    I fished around on the website, since the letter includes no way to contact them to report fraud, and finally found a place on the ODJFS webside for fraud. Ssssssh. So someone else probably was getting the tax money we pay now and relaxing on a beach chair somewhere on unemployment money under my wife's name. I wonder if I would have received a 1099-G in January if this letter hadn't shown up.

    So how did they know to contact your wife at your address if some scammer was getting the cash? Would they have given your home address? In NY UI is direct deposited so the bank would have all the person’s info.

    I’m sure that there are ways but I wouldn’t know how to move the money out of an account without leaving a trail.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,873
    I, too, had fraudulent unemployment claims in MA. My employer caught it immediately, notified me and the DOE.
    AFAIK, no harm, no foul.

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 17,975

    If my wife had been getting that extra $600 a week unemployment, we could have
    traded in one of the cars and gottena G90. :)

    I'm really interested in finding out if someone actually defrauded ODJFS and got
    payment. My wife's record is pretty well embedded in Ohio records via her SS number
    and having a teaching license, which means the employment record with schools is
    easily available as public information.


    Oh come on now you do realize you are talking about government agencies. I work for the state of IL and the same agency that processes our paychecks is the exact same agency that processes unemployment payments. You would think that they would have something in place that would at least raise a red flag if someone is getting both a paycheck and an unemployment check, but noooooooooooooooooo.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 199,137

    If my wife had been getting that extra $600 a week unemployment, we could have
    traded in one of the cars and gottena G90. :)

    I'm really interested in finding out if someone actually defrauded ODJFS and got
    payment. My wife's record is pretty well embedded in Ohio records via her SS number
    and having a teaching license, which means the employment record with schools is
    easily available as public information.


    From what I've heard about Ohio unemployment, you'll be lucky to ever get a reply from them. :(

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,874
    After thinking about it for 5 mins, I decided my solo trip to Myrtle would not be much fun in the car, so I booked a flight. $76 round trip! wow. The real painful part? Renting a car. I first found an older Caravan on Turo for about $320 for the week. By the time I registered and checked out, it was gone. Ugh. Back up and find ... a Fiat 500. Yeah, it will be tight for shopping trips while there, but I should be able to manage. Totaled up to $400. But it is a good $150 or so cheaper than anything else. The great part is that it is a manual trans.

    Anyway, still under $500 for saving about 20 hours in the car, not to mention the wear and tear and miles.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,297

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    I just provided tenderloin steaks for a family get together. $30/lb. $250 for about 10 people.

    They better be tender at that price. :'(

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,722
    edited September 24

    If my wife had been getting that extra $600 a week unemployment, we could have
    traded in one of the cars and gottena G90. :)

    I'm really interested in finding out if someone actually defrauded ODJFS and got
    payment. My wife's record is pretty well embedded in Ohio records via her SS number
    and having a teaching license, which means the employment record with schools is
    easily available as public information.


    Oh come on now you do realize you are talking about government agencies. I work for the state of IL and the same agency that processes our paychecks is the exact same agency that processes unemployment payments. You would think that they would have something in place that would at least raise a red flag if someone is getting both a paycheck and an unemployment check, but noooooooooooooooooo.
    Speaking of Govt' agencies, there's one running parking tickets in recreational forest/parks for CA. First they put up tiny signs spread far apart, then they ticket everyone. Then they don't answer the phone for 90 minutes, put the wrong license plate on their website in a trick (or more likely, sheer incompetence) to try and make you pay for a ticket and not get credit for it, then when they fix the error (which takes them over a month) by the time you get your 2nd notice they want extra charges and late fees doubling the fine amount!!!!!

    :angry:
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,411
    edited September 24
    @qbrozen,
    You should have just rented a UHaul truck while you are down there. ;)
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,297

    @qbrozen said:
    After thinking about it for 5 mins, I decided my solo trip to Myrtle would not be much fun in the car, so I booked a flight. $76 round trip! wow. The real painful part? Renting a car. I first found an older Caravan on Turo for about $320 for the week. By the time I registered and checked out, it was gone. Ugh. Back up and find ... a Fiat 500. Yeah, it will be tight for shopping trips while there, but I should be able to manage. Totaled up to $400. But it is a good $150 or so cheaper than anything else. The great part is that it is a manual trans.

    Anyway, still under $500 for saving about 20 hours in the car, not to mention the wear and tear and miles.

    When my youngest brother went to Myrtle Beach the same week we went in early August, he and his wife got a great price on plane tickets with Spirit Airlines so he jumped on them before the plane was sold out. Like you he was going to get screwed with a rental car (almost 2 grand all in) so he looked some more. Finally, he rented a 2 seater commercial work van (like one of those tall Amazon jobs) from Hertz for a tad over $300 for the week. He had lots of room for grocery shopping.

    You would have had a ball with that. Lots of room for picking up stuff at the big box stores for your new beach place.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,888
    jmonroe1 said:

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    I just provided tenderloin steaks for a family get together. $30/lb. $250 for about 10 people.

    They better be tender at that price. :'(

    jmonroe


    Try to get it cheaper without owning the cow. Beef prices have gone through the roof.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,297

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Try to get it cheaper without owning the cow. Beef prices have gone through the roof.

    Tell me about it. All that was needed was that hacking job by the trouble making Russians to drive the price up. We’re going to pay dearly for the ransom that was paid out by that meat packing house more than 2 months ago. There was no way that was coming out of their pocket.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 25,991
    edited September 24
    Inflation is a cruel tax on the people. I recall paying 12 5/8 % for a mortgage on a condo.
    Price increases over the 2 years at Kroger have been strong.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,872

    @jmonroe1 said:

    @abacomike said:

    @benjaminh said:
    Maybe you should consider taking some road trips?

    I have 2876 miles on the odometer and the car turns 6 months old on 9/29/21. I take the car in for its first maintenance on 9/28/21 - it’s calibrated for every 6 months or 3000 miles, due to the short driving trips I take and very few highway miles. Maintenance is free for the first 3 years which includes wiper blades, brake discs and pads, oil and filter, all fluids, to name a few. Nice benefit for new car purchasers, if you can find one for sale.

    That’s what you get when you buy a wannabe. Don’t take offense, I worked with a guy once who always had to have a car in warranty. He used to say, “I always wanna be covered for engine problems and I always wanna be covered for transmission problems and I always wanna be covered for A/C problems and I always wanna be… “ I’m sure you get the idea since you have a wannabe. ;)

    We hope you’re feeling better today.

    jmonroe

    For me, the G90 is not a wannabe because I’ve owned or leased most of the cars a wannabe strives to be (S450, 740i, Lexus 450). Haven’t owned a A8, but that is not my kinda car.

    As for feeling better, a little. Tomorrow is the tell-all day because it will be 48 hours since the procedure. I am able to stand and walk without severe pain and I am 🙏 praying I will have even more relief tomorrow. I had to cancel therapy this morning because I was still woozy from the morphine they gave me IV after the procedure.

    It seems the doctor injected strong squirts of saline into my coccyx area to break down scar tissue up the spinal canal. Then several injections of steroids into the L3/L4 space and adjacent foramen structures to reduce swelling and irritation/inflammation. At least that’s what I heard him say while under the influence of morphine.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,545
    when I was moving my daughter up to Boston I looked at rentals (I always go through AAA). the only thing that was not outrageous was the cargo van. I ended up getting a Hertz Transit 250 (LWB and high roof, I could have lived in that thing) for a whopping $52/day, unlimited miles. Picked up Thursday noon, returned Monday at 10:00, after close to 1,000 miles, and the total including extra damage insurance was about $250. A total steal. At the same time, the cheapest car (something like a Fiesta) was something like $125/day.

    if I needed a car down here for any reason, I would shoot for the van first even if I had nothing to carry.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,094
    Low rates are the only saving grace in this bizarro economy, and they too are creeping up (I think I read the typical 30 year fixed crossed 3% this week). Local housing is up 100% in the past 5 years alone, and some rents aren't far behind.

    Inflation is a cruel tax on the people. I recall paying 12 5/8 % for a mortgage on a condo.
    Price increases over the 2 years at Kroger have been strong.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,771

    Friday night is usually single malt scotch night here. I have a pretty good collection of bottles I’ve put away over the last 15 years or so. Tonight I opened one of the best, a Macallan cask strength (58.9%) I bought 15 years ago. You just can’t buy whisky like this these days. I’m told this goes for $700 on the secondary market now, which is at least 10 times what I paid for it. It is incredibly good.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,545
    I am not a scotch fan (my son and BIL are though) but possibly because I have never tried anything that good!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,297

    @ab348 said:
    Friday night is usually single malt scotch night here. I have a pretty good collection of bottles I’ve put away over the last 15 years or so. Tonight I opened one of the best, a Macallan cask strength (58.9%) I bought 15 years ago. You just can’t buy whisky like this these days. I’m told this goes for $700 on the secondary market now, which is at least 10 times what I paid for it. It is incredibly good.

    I think you and @Mike ought to have a drink-off some Friday night. I’ll officiate. I’d like to taste some of the free stuff he’s gotten over the years. I wouldn’t mind sampling some of the stuff you buy too. I’ll do my best to be fair about this but bribing the official is fine with me. ;)

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949

    @abacomike said:

    @benjaminh said:
    Maybe you should consider taking some road trips?

    I have 2876 miles on the odometer and the car turns 6 months old on 9/29/21. I take the car in for its first maintenance on 9/28/21 - it’s calibrated for every 6 months or 3000 miles, due to the short driving trips I take and very few highway miles. Maintenance is free for the first 3 years which includes wiper blades, brake discs and pads, oil and filter, all fluids, to name a few. Nice benefit for new car purchasers, if you can find one for sale.

    The maintenance is not free. It is prepaid :)

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949

    @imidazol97 said:
    Everything goes wrong...

    Yesterday my wife's new transmitter for her two week Libre Freestyle continuous glucose monitor wouldn't work after the 1-hour startup period. I had to make a phone call to Abbott to ask for a replacement. Luckily she had one more in her 90-day shipment to use.

    Today my wife got a letter from the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services. I knew it had to be trouble before I opened it. Sure 'nuf: It was reminding her there were jobs available and other assistance available. It said since she had applied for and/or received unemployment in the past they were notifying her of moer help available!!!

    She never applied for unemployment. ID theft?

    I fished around on the website, since the letter includes no way to contact them to report fraud, and finally found a place on the ODJFS webside for fraud. Ssssssh. So someone else probably was getting the tax money we pay now and relaxing on a beach chair somewhere on unemployment money under my wife's name. I wonder if I would have received a 1099-G in January if this letter hadn't shown up.

    The continuous glucose monitor is wonderful if working and a PITA if not. I usually have someone with a spare if I have issues thankfully.

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949
    edited September 24

    @ab348 said:
    Friday night is usually single malt scotch night here. I have a pretty good collection of bottles I’ve put away over the last 15 years or so. Tonight I opened one of the best, a Macallan cask strength (58.9%) I bought 15 years ago. You just can’t buy whisky like this these days. I’m told this goes for $700 on the secondary market now, which is at least 10 times what I paid for it. It is incredibly good.

    Peaty or Smokey???

    I had a friend give me some Pappy VanWinkle. Have not opened it yet. (I realize that it is not Scotch :) )

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,679

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @ab348 said:
    Friday night is usually single malt scotch night here. I have a pretty good collection of bottles I’ve put away over the last 15 years or so. Tonight I opened one of the best, a Macallan cask strength (58.9%) I bought 15 years ago. You just can’t buy whisky like this these days. I’m told this goes for $700 on the secondary market now, which is at least 10 times what I paid for it. It is incredibly good.

    Peaty or Smokey???

    I had a friend give me some Pappy VanWinkle. Have not opened it yet. (I realize that it is not Scotch :) )

    Pappy is tough to find. Heck even Buffalo Trace is, but I got lucky the other day and found a bottle at the rip off store in Wildwood. Overpaid by $8-10 but it was worth it.

    I’m more of a bourbon guy, but that Macallan is good stuff.

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,874

    @jmonroe1 said:

    @qbrozen said:
    After thinking about it for 5 mins, I decided my solo trip to Myrtle would not be much fun in the car, so I booked a flight. $76 round trip! wow. The real painful part? Renting a car. I first found an older Caravan on Turo for about $320 for the week. By the time I registered and checked out, it was gone. Ugh. Back up and find ... a Fiat 500. Yeah, it will be tight for shopping trips while there, but I should be able to manage. Totaled up to $400. But it is a good $150 or so cheaper than anything else. The great part is that it is a manual trans.

    Anyway, still under $500 for saving about 20 hours in the car, not to mention the wear and tear and miles.

    When my youngest brother went to Myrtle Beach the same week we went in early August, he and his wife got a great price on plane tickets with Spirit Airlines so he jumped on them before the plane was sold out. Like you he was going to get screwed with a rental car (almost 2 grand all in) so he looked some more. Finally, he rented a 2 seater commercial work van (like one of those tall Amazon jobs) from Hertz for a tad over $300 for the week. He had lots of room for grocery shopping.

    You would have had a ball with that. Lots of room for picking up stuff at the big box stores for your new beach place.

    jmonroe

    Hey, thanks for the tip!!
    I just scored a Uhaul van for $20/day plus 59 cents a mile! This will cost me about $200 for the week, at most.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,771
    mjfloyd1 said:


    Peaty or Smokey???

    I had a friend give me some Pappy VanWinkle. Have not opened it yet. (I realize that it is not Scotch :) )

    Macallan is not peaty at all. Not really smokey either. It is a sherried scotch, heavily so in this case. The notes on the box say the flavor is of fruit cake, vanilla and a hint of wood smoke. I got a bit of chocolate/cocoa as well. Needs water to bring those out.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,872

    @jmonroe1 said:

    @ab348 said:
    Friday night is usually single malt scotch night here. I have a pretty good collection of bottles I’ve put away over the last 15 years or so. Tonight I opened one of the best, a Macallan cask strength (58.9%) I bought 15 years ago. You just can’t buy whisky like this these days. I’m told this goes for $700 on the secondary market now, which is at least 10 times what I paid for it. It is incredibly good.

    I think you and @Mike ought to have a drink-off some Friday night. I’ll officiate. I’d like to taste some of the free stuff he’s gotten over the years. I wouldn’t mind sampling some of the stuff you buy too. I’ll do my best to be fair about this but bribing the official is fine with me. ;)

    jmonroe

    I did recently receive a 1 L bottle of Gentleman Jack Tennessee Whiskey. I took a few tastes and it seemed a bit smoother than regular Jack Daniels. Supposedly double charcoal filtered. I am not a whiskey lover, but this isn’t too bad. I prefer scotch - single malt.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,872

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @abacomike said:

    @benjaminh said:
    Maybe you should consider taking some road trips?

    I have 2876 miles on the odometer and the car turns 6 months old on 9/29/21. I take the car in for its first maintenance on 9/28/21 - it’s calibrated for every 6 months or 3000 miles, due to the short driving trips I take and very few highway miles. Maintenance is free for the first 3 years which includes wiper blades, brake discs and pads, oil and filter, all fluids, to name a few. Nice benefit for new car purchasers, if you can find one for sale.

    The maintenance is not free. It is prepaid :)

    According to my New Vehicle Sticker, it states “complimentary maintenance for first 3 years or 36,000 miles”. To me, that’s free maintenance. It says nothing about pre-paid maintenance.

    But I question your need to correct my statement mjfloyd1! If someone else or Genesis Division prepaid my maintenance, then is that not free to me - without additional cost? It is included with the car purchase, just like the engine, wheels, etc. There are no options on this car.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949
    edited September 25

    It is included in the car purchase price. Genesis factored the cost of the prepaid maintenance in when they calculated the MSRP. It is prepaid and included for the price that you paid for the car. You don’t have to pay any EXTRA for it. Sounds like we agree.

    My old X3m40i had prepaid maintenance too. It was included in the price of the car. I didn’t pay any EXTRA for it. My Audis don’t include prepaid maintenance. I had to pay EXTRA for it.

    Even my two 4xes include the Jeep wave prepaid maintenance for three years of oil changes and tire rotations. I paid for it when I bought the Jeeps. It isn’t free. It was included in the purchase price. It was factored into Jeep’s calculations to determine MSRP.

    I assume you have the V8 G90 vs the V6 G90? AWD or RWD?

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,855
    We were very fortunate that the Pre paid maintenance transferred to us when we bought the Q5. We purchased the Q5 at a VW dealer! The dealer didn’t inform us of that. When I took the Q5 in for service they said it was covered until 45k. I did a happy dance. It still had about 2yr/20k remaining. For the previous owner of the car that wasn’t such a good deal for them. I would have thought they would’ve received a pro-rated refund for services not used but Audi states Pre paid stays with the vehicle. The next service will be on me as the Pre paid has been fulfilled. We have had the Q5 26 mo and driven 21k, 47k on the odo. My wife loves it.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949

    That’s great @sda, it certainly worked in your favor.

    Audi also increases residual by 1% for leases that buy the Audi prepaid maintenance plans.

    Audi will refund for unused prepaid maintenance if the car gets totaled. They refunded on the Q7. I don’t know how that would work if you didn’t pay for the prepaid maintenance though.

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,771
    edited September 25

    I think there is some hair-splitting going on in terms of maintenance-included vs prepaid maintenance.

    Many of the European makes sell various flavours of prepaid maintenance as an option at the time of new-car purchase, no different than optional wheels or paint protection. Other makes include various level of “free” maintenance with the purchase of a new vehicle. It may be your first oil change, 2 years of scheduled maintenance (I think Buick does this), or as in the case of my Cadillac, 4 years. All of those things cost something of course, either to the manufacturer or the dealer. So does the free coffee and donuts in the service lounge. I doubt you will get a better deal if you vow never to indulge in those. It all comes out of the profit margin. The price of the vehicle is all subject to negotiation. I don’t know how negotiable the M-B or BMW maintenance plans are.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949
    edited September 25

    Sounds like a we agree too.

    You pay more for a MB / Audi / BMW and get “free” donuts and coffee. Those things, like oil and filters have a cost. Some people are willing to pay the extra dollars to be treated better and some people do not see the value.

    Last time that I checked, Audi and MB prepaid maintenance only had a $100 markup. It seemed like BMW had more markup but I honestly don’t recall. I’m glad that I didn’t buy it for the X3m40i that I just got rid of since it would have been wasted money.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,872

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    Sounds like a we agree too.

    You pay more for a MB / Audi / BMW and get “free” donuts and coffee. Those things, like oil and filters have a cost. Some people are willing to pay the extra dollars to be treated better and some people do not see the value.

    Since I am a diabetic, free donuts and bagels are of no benefit to me. The free coffee is nice, but with Genesis, I’m lucky I have maintenance included because they don’t serve anything except free coffee which tastes awful.

    BTW, wheel alignment is included once each year as are wiper blades and discs and pads. Another nice add-on.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949
    edited September 25

    @sda you can buy more prepaid maintenance plans from your Audi dealer for the upcoming services. I believe they are sold in sets of two upcoming services IIRC

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,872
    edited September 25

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    It is included in the car purchase price. Genesis factored the cost of the prepaid maintenance in when they calculated the MSRP. It is prepaid and included for the price that you paid for the car. You don’t have to pay any EXTRA for it. Sounds like we agree.

    My old X3m40i had prepaid maintenance too. It was included in the price of the car. I didn’t pay any EXTRA for it. My Audis don’t include prepaid maintenance. I had to pay EXTRA for it.

    Even my two 4xes include the Jeep wave prepaid maintenance for three years of oil changes and tire rotations. I paid for it when I bought the Jeeps. It isn’t free. It was included in the purchase price. It was factored into Jeep’s calculations to determine MSRP.

    I assume you have the V8 G90 vs the V6 G90? AWD or RWD?

    I have the 3.3 L V6 twin turbo @365 hp and 375 lb ft of torque with RWD. According to all the reviews, the V6 was the best choice for power (0-60 times are identical) and fuel economy, not to mention MSRP of of about $3000 less.

    I bought the car for $69,550 + fees, tax and registration/title. My trade was valued at $56,000, so my tax liability was only about $890. I got it financed through Genesis at 1.9% for 60 months.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949
    edited September 25

    Are those really wire wheels or are they kinda like the old BBS “weave” wheels?

    V6TT seems to have a nice wide torque curve too.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,872

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    Are those really wire wheels or are they kinda like the old BBS “weave” wheels?

    It’s called “multi-spoke wheel” which is not really spokes, but looks like spokes from the distance. I did not like the standard wheels in “option group 1” - these multi-spoke wheels are on the “option group 2” vehicle.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,855
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @sda you can buy more prepaid maintenance plans from your Audi dealer for the upcoming services. I believe they are sold in sets of two upcoming services IIRC

    I think because of the age of the Q5 it doesn’t qualify. I will ask. Thanks for the reminder.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949

    May be cheaper to just use an independent shop too??

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 17,975

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @abacomike said:

    @benjaminh said:
    Maybe you should consider taking some road trips?

    I have 2876 miles on the odometer and the car turns 6 months old on 9/29/21. I take the car in for its first maintenance on 9/28/21 - it’s calibrated for every 6 months or 3000 miles, due to the short driving trips I take and very few highway miles. Maintenance is free for the first 3 years which includes wiper blades, brake discs and pads, oil and filter, all fluids, to name a few. Nice benefit for new car purchasers, if you can find one for sale.

    The maintenance is not free. It is prepaid :)

    According to my New Vehicle Sticker, it states “complimentary maintenance for first 3 years or 36,000 miles”. To me, that’s free maintenance. It says nothing about pre-paid maintenance.

    But I question your need to correct my statement mjfloyd1! If someone else or Genesis Division prepaid my maintenance, then is that not free to me - without additional cost? It is included with the car purchase, just like the engine, wheels, etc. There are no options on this car.

    It's not truly free as you pay for it, it's just buried in the cost of the car. You can bet your bottom dollar that they raised the price or cut costs somewhere.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 17,975

    Well it's National One Hit Wonder day. So turn up your stereos and play that funky music.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 15,771
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Sounds like a we agree too.

    You pay more for a MB / Audi / BMW and get “free” donuts and coffee. Those things, like oil and filters have a cost. Some people are willing to pay the extra dollars to be treated better and some people do not see the value.

    Locally the Toyota dealer always has free coffee and snacks. The GM dealer I used to use for service always had food of some sort in the showroom (often pizza) and on Saturdays they used to do a free BBQ lunch outside in the summertime for anyone who showed up. They clearly considered it a cost of doing business in order to build goodwill and some sort of loyalty. Was that reflected in the prices they charged for vehicles? If it was, I didn't see it.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949
    edited September 25

    They can afford those “freebies” because they are making a profit which is a reflection probably more so from profits off of used vehicles and service (vs new car prices depending on the dealership and their new car pricing structure). Profits certainly can be spent as they see fit. Maybe that’s what they spend money on from charging absurd documentation fees :)

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 25,991
    @abacomike
    I'm glad to read that the injections and the prep work are having an effect now
    and your pain is being attenuated.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 25,991
    Nothing is free with reference to the included maintenance. When i bought the Malibu in '14
    and the Cruze in '15 both had 4 oil changes within two years as part of the purchase. The Cruze
    had it as a CPO warranty. It was under a year old.

    That included tire rotations, as well, on both vehicles.

    My Chevy store never had bagels and cream cheese or donuts or anything. They did smile a
    lot although a year or so ago I was insulted by the new car sales manager in that a Colorado and
    Silverado on the showroom floor looked a whole lot the same. His response was to make me
    feel ignorant for not realizing the difference in the vehicles. They still looked a lot the same to me especially from the "rear"-end view.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 1,949

    @abacomike said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    Sounds like a we agree too.

    You pay more for a MB / Audi / BMW and get “free” donuts and coffee. Those things, like oil and filters have a cost. Some people are willing to pay the extra dollars to be treated better and some people do not see the value.

    Since I am a diabetic, free donuts and bagels are of no benefit to me. The free coffee is nice, but with Genesis, I’m lucky I have maintenance included because they don’t serve anything except free coffee which tastes awful.

    BTW, wheel alignment is included once each year as are wiper blades and discs and pads. Another nice add-on.

    I have carbohydrate intolerance as well. Doesn’t that sound more pleasant than Diabetes? :)

    The CalorieKing app is good for carb counting

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