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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,844
    tjc78 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    Can’t you solve that problem by running the hot water at the kitchen sink first. In fact, most dishwasher instructions say to do this as a matter of course anyway. Mrs. j has done that since she had her first dishwasher back in the early 70’s.

    Notice how we always get back to dishwashers.

    jmonroe

    Yes we do that all the time, which helps but eventually the tankless shuts off because the new “HE” appliances fill very slowly.

    My personal favorite thing that happens with the tankless is the “cold water sandwich”. Say your wife takes a shower, and then 10 minutes or so later you decide to take one. You turn the water on and it’s warm right away. So you jump in and once the warm water in the pipe flushes out you get 15 seconds of cold while the unit is firing up. That is fun in the winter.


    Why would the tankless shut off because you have a HE dishwasher? As long as you’re calling for hot water it should provide hot water.

    Now, about that shower thingy, I’d make sure I was first into the shower.

    Is there anything you like about your tankless heater?

    jmonroe
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,223
    edited October 2021
    jmonroe1 said:

    tjc78 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    Can’t you solve that problem by running the hot water at the kitchen sink first. In fact, most dishwasher instructions say to do this as a matter of course anyway. Mrs. j has done that since she had her first dishwasher back in the early 70’s.

    Notice how we always get back to dishwashers.

    jmonroe

    Yes we do that all the time, which helps but eventually the tankless shuts off because the new “HE” appliances fill very slowly.

    My personal favorite thing that happens with the tankless is the “cold water sandwich”. Say your wife takes a shower, and then 10 minutes or so later you decide to take one. You turn the water on and it’s warm right away. So you jump in and once the warm water in the pipe flushes out you get 15 seconds of cold while the unit is firing up. That is fun in the winter.

    Why would the tankless shut off because you have a HE dishwasher? As long as you’re calling for hot water it should provide hot water.

    Now, about that shower thingy, I’d make sure I was first into the shower.
    Save water, shower together.
    jmonroe1 said:

    Is there anything you like about your tankless heater?

    jmonroe

    Apparently a tankless heater is a thankless heater.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    How things can snowball;
    *First, the little lever handle that you lift so the plug closes the sink broke. First plan was to replace that.
    *Then decided it would be good to get a new sink, maybe with one hole so can have one tap for hot & cold.
    *Then realized the sink is beige, and we should get a white sink because we were thinking of getting a new toilet, and the toilet is beige but you have way more choice if it is white.
    *Then we went to the plumbing store to select a sink and toilet, oh and a new tap (single)
    *Then MrsD100 saw a black granite kitchen sink that she really liked.
    *Our current sink is stainless, and it is one that goes under the granite counter.
    *Of course, she needs a new kitchen faucet to go with the new sink
    *We might need a granite Guy to come and make the hole larger for the sink.

    ....and it all started from replacing a $10 stopper in the bathroom sink....probably end up costing $5000! :'(

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,672
    Just leave it alone and go to Florida. She might forget by the time you get back.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,322
    Buyer beware.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,927

    On a car related topic, I think of @abacomike almost daily because I drive past a house with a G90 in the driveway and another Hyundai product a Telluride or Pallisade or whatever the name also in the driveway.

    The G90 is black. Its styling is just pleasant to look at. it has nothing about screaming "Look at me."
    It's just pleasing to the eye in its balance and design.

    But the G90 has the longest rear door I've noticed in a long time. That rear seat must really have room. That means the front can be adjusted to handle someone who needs more legroom.




    Imid, you are correct - the rear doors are very long in order to provide easy entry and exit of passengers in the rear seats. When I sat in the back seat, my knees were at least 12 inches from the back of the front seat. It is actually roomier in the rear seats than my S Class Mercedes was.

    SOME UPDATES:

    Finally got a neuro-surgeon to see me next Tuesday morning about my back. I've had two procedures with epidurals with absolutely no relief. I've had 12 weeks of therapy with no relief. Can't stand in one place for more than 5 minutes before I get so much pain in my back that I have to sit. Walking more than a few hundred feet and I have to stop and sit down. It would appear that my only hope for getting relief is some sort of surgery.

    As for my son - I had a long conversation with my grandson and from what the doctors have said about his malignant tumor at the C level of his spine is that it is inoperable and they cannot give radiation doses because he had so much radiation when he had the brain tumor that his body cannot tolerate any more. The type of cancer he has is usually found in patients who have had high doses of radiation and/or chemotherapy. The tumor is encapsulated and was leaking slightly. The "pills" he is taking (chemo of some sort) is supposed to cause the tumor to encapsulate completely so it does not spread.

    Only God knows how long he has - I just pray every night.

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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 725
    So sorry to hear about the back and of course your son, praying right along side you for the best outcomes!
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,210
    driver100 said:

    How things can snowball;
    *First, the little lever handle that you lift so the plug closes the sink broke. First plan was to replace that.
    *Then decided it would be good to get a new sink, maybe with one hole so can have one tap for hot & cold.
    *Then realized the sink is beige, and we should get a white sink because we were thinking of getting a new toilet, and the toilet is beige but you have way more choice if it is white.
    *Then we went to the plumbing store to select a sink and toilet, oh and a new tap (single)

    Oh, no. Now you are going to lord another designer toilet over the rest of us peons like the last time you bought one. :s

    I saw a bit on This Old House not long ago with Rich at a plumbing show. The real expensive toilets these days are electric with sensors and automatic seats and built-in sprays for the nether regions.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,223

    @driver100 said:
    How things can snowball;
    *First, the little lever handle that you lift so the plug closes the sink broke. First plan was to replace that.
    *Then decided it would be good to get a new sink, maybe with one hole so can have one tap for hot & cold.
    *Then realized the sink is beige, and we should get a white sink because we were thinking of getting a new toilet, and the toilet is beige but you have way more choice if it is white.
    *Then we went to the plumbing store to select a sink and toilet, oh and a new tap (single)
    *Then MrsD100 saw a black granite kitchen sink that she really liked.
    *Our current sink is stainless, and it is one that goes under the granite counter.
    *Of course, she needs a new kitchen faucet to go with the new sink
    *We might need a granite Guy to come and make the hole larger for the sink.

    ....and it all started from replacing a $10 stopper in the bathroom sink....probably end up costing $5000! :'(

    Watch out, the way things are going you might end up replacing the whole house.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    dad23 said:

    So sorry to hear about the back and of course your son, praying right along side you for the best outcomes!

    +1 I can't add anything, Mike has a huge amount to deal with, hoping that these issues can somehow be resolved in the best possible way.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    ab348 said:

    driver100 said:

    How things can snowball;
    *First, the little lever handle that you lift so the plug closes the sink broke. First plan was to replace that.
    *Then decided it would be good to get a new sink, maybe with one hole so can have one tap for hot & cold.
    *Then realized the sink is beige, and we should get a white sink because we were thinking of getting a new toilet, and the toilet is beige but you have way more choice if it is white.
    *Then we went to the plumbing store to select a sink and toilet, oh and a new tap (single)

    Oh, no. Now you are going to lord another designer toilet over the rest of us peons like the last time you bought one. :s

    I saw a bit on This Old House not long ago with Rich at a plumbing show. The real expensive toilets these days are electric with sensors and automatic seats and built-in sprays for the nether regions.
    lol....the Pfister is still working well and is a beautiful piece of equipment, the new toilet is just an American Standard with a normal base since you aren't looking directly at all those busy lines on the bottom. The Pfister is in a place where the smooth sides look much better.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    stickguy said:

    Just leave it alone and go to Florida. She might forget by the time you get back.

    Good idea but she told them we were leaving on Nov 7th, it had to be done before that.....they are coming Nov 4th.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,210
    driver100 said:


    lol....the Pfister is still working well and is a beautiful piece of equipment, the new toilet is just an American Standard with a normal base since you aren't looking directly at all those busy lines on the bottom. The Pfister is in a place where the smooth sides look much better.

    Pro tip... the toilet you want is a Gerber compact elongated which you can't buy at a big box store (at least around here).

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,757
    Mailed in the deposit on a lot. Need to decide the general physical layout by Thanksgiving.
    Originally, we were going to go with a straight ranch style, but I needed some 'Me' space not in the basement, so we are adding some 2nd floor space instead.
    Also adding 3rd garage and a 14x14 covered porch area with a fireplace.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,672
    good luck! that is what we would have done too. The wife wants a screen porch/sun room if possible, I of course want the garage, and adding an upstairs bonus room is very handy.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,757
    @stickguy,
    The upstairs is a bedroom, full bath and some general purpose space, maybe sort of a reading area.
    Not a full 2nd level, it does not change the house profile.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,381

    @ab348 said:
    Pro tip... the toilet you want is a Gerber compact elongated which you can't buy at a big box store (at least around here).

    Amateur. You want a Ferguson. BAWOOOSHH

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,876
    Toto

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,672
    does that hold the line?

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    ab348 said:

    driver100 said:


    lol....the Pfister is still working well and is a beautiful piece of equipment, the new toilet is just an American Standard with a normal base since you aren't looking directly at all those busy lines on the bottom. The Pfister is in a place where the smooth sides look much better.

    Pro tip... the toilet you want is a Gerber compact elongated which you can't buy at a big box store (at least around here).
    Why?

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    edited October 2021
    qbrozen said:

    @ab348 said:

    Pro tip... the toilet you want is a Gerber compact elongated which you can't buy at a big box store (at least around here).

    Amateur. You want a Ferguson. BAWOOOSHH


    A Ferguson....the choice of Al Bundy, the one with the Big Flush;




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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    kyfdx said:

    Toto

    Yeh, a Toto...that's better than a Pfiester;

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    @jmonroe1 said:
    Why would the tankless shut off because you have a HE dishwasher? As long as you’re calling for hot water it should provide hot water.

    Now, about that shower thingy, I’d make sure I was first into the shower.

    Is there anything you like about your tankless heater?

    jmonroe

    Tankless water heaters require a certain amount of pressure and time to turn on. The HE appliances put water in small amounts at a time that many times won’t trigger the unit to turn on, or if it does not until it’s ready to shut back off.

    Is there anything I like? Well, yes. Five showers back to to back (sometimes three at once) with no issues. Wife can fill her soaking tub to capacity with no loss of temperature. I also like the fact that there isn’t 50 gallons of water sitting in a tank and they do save money on gas (while wasting a bit of water due to long wait times).

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    Story time….

    Jmonroe length post warning:

    So we are on vacation this week and originally planned to go to Antigua. We cancelled that for a host of reasons. So we are spending some time at the shore house. First with our niece and nephews for Halloween and then alone for a few days until the end of the week when are kids are off for the teacher convention.

    Work has been insane for my wife and I. We typically don’t watch much news so we really discounted how bad the coastal storm was. Yesterday I had to be in a retail location because it’s one of the busiest days of the year heading into Halloween (all corp has to be in stores) and I was disconnected from everything.

    Wife heads to the shore with 4 kids and a trunk full of groceries. Calls me frantic at 7:30 PM that our street is flooded and she isn’t sure she can make it. I tell her to stop immediately and open her door to see how high it was. She said almost to the door… I was like get the hell out of there! She did and headed to the Wawa on main road to wait. The kids certainly couldn’t walk the couple of blocks and she was too frazzled to drive home.

    I was just leaving and on the way. I said call the Police and ask for help. They were completely awesome! Met her at Wawa, escorted her to a place to park and drove her and the 4 kids along with the groceries in a military truck to the house!

    I got there a little after nine, parked about 4 blocks away and walked through the water which had begun to recede. What a night! Next time we will pay more attention to the weather! No excuse with today’s technology. Not a smart move on our part at all

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    Oh and yesterday was the anniversary of Hurricane Sandy where my wife and I were stuck on a cruise ship during our Honeymoon.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 26,187
    tjc78 said:

    Story time….

    Jmonroe length post warning:

    So we are on vacation this week and originally planned to go to Antigua. We cancelled that for a host of reasons. So we are spending some time at the shore house. First with our niece and nephews for Halloween and then alone for a few days until the end of the week when are kids are off for the teacher convention.

    Work has been insane for my wife and I. We typically don’t watch much news so we really discounted how bad the coastal storm was. Yesterday I had to be in a retail location because it’s one of the busiest days of the year heading into Halloween (all corp has to be in stores) and I was disconnected from everything.

    Wife heads to the shore with 4 kids and a trunk full of groceries. Calls me frantic at 7:30 PM that our street is flooded and she isn’t sure she can make it. I tell her to stop immediately and open her door to see how high it was. She said almost to the door… I was like get the hell out of there! She did and headed to the Wawa on main road to wait. The kids certainly couldn’t walk the couple of blocks and she was too frazzled to drive home.

    I was just leaving and on the way. I said call the Police and ask for help. They were completely awesome! Met her at Wawa, escorted her to a place to park and drove her and the 4 kids along with the groceries in a military truck to the house!

    I got there a little after nine, parked about 4 blocks away and walked through the water which had begun to recede. What a night! Next time we will pay more attention to the weather! No excuse with today’s technology. Not a smart move on our part at all

    Glad it worked out that well!

    That's a hard story to top.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,210
    In the "nothing exceeds like excess" department, check out this real estate listing. Be sure to click the photos link above the text box (the real estate web page appears to be from the late '90s). I'm wondering if it is a place belonging to some overpaid pro athlete...

    https://www.flexmls.com/share/5pB1b/5021-E-Arabian-WAY-Paradise-Valley-AZ-85253

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,903

    @stickguy,
    The upstairs is a bedroom, full bath and some general purpose space, maybe sort of a reading area.
    Not a full 2nd level, it does not change the house profile.

    That is similar to our townhouse build, the second floor is bedroom and full bath #3, along with a "landing" space that will be my workspace/lounge area. Until she decides otherwise...

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,757
    30 garage spaces!
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    @ab348 said:
    In the "nothing exceeds like excess" department, check out this real estate listing. Be sure to click the photos link above the text box (the real estate web page appears to be from the late '90s). I'm wondering if it is a place belonging to some overpaid pro athlete...

    https://www.flexmls.com/share/5pB1b/5021-E-Arabian-WAY-Paradise-Valley-AZ-85253

    Way over the top. Not my style at all, but an impressive space. I do like the wine cellar. Sometime in the future, I’d love to convert my downstairs office into a wine cellar. It would be a perfect room for it

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,322
    tjc78 said:

    Oh and yesterday was the anniversary of Hurricane Sandy where my wife and I were stuck on a cruise ship during our Honeymoon.

    Don’t feel bad, on returning from our honeymoon my wife and I were stranded in a NYS Thruway rest stop for two days in a blizzard.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,454
    edited October 2021
    tjc78 said:

    Story time….

    Jmonroe length post warning:

    So we are on vacation this week and originally planned to go to Antigua. We cancelled that for a host of reasons. So we are spending some time at the shore house. First with our niece and nephews for Halloween and then alone for a few days until the end of the week when are kids are off for the teacher convention.

    Work has been insane for my wife and I. We typically don’t watch much news so we really discounted how bad the coastal storm was. Yesterday I had to be in a retail location because it’s one of the busiest days of the year heading into Halloween (all corp has to be in stores) and I was disconnected from everything.

    Wife heads to the shore with 4 kids and a trunk full of groceries. Calls me frantic at 7:30 PM that our street is flooded and she isn’t sure she can make it. I tell her to stop immediately and open her door to see how high it was. She said almost to the door… I was like get the hell out of there! She did and headed to the Wawa on main road to wait. The kids certainly couldn’t walk the couple of blocks and she was too frazzled to drive home.

    I was just leaving and on the way. I said call the Police and ask for help. They were completely awesome! Met her at Wawa, escorted her to a place to park and drove her and the 4 kids along with the groceries in a military truck to the house!

    I got there a little after nine, parked about 4 blocks away and walked through the water which had begun to recede. What a night! Next time we will pay more attention to the weather! No excuse with today’s technology. Not a smart move on our part at all

    I'm glad nothing worse happened. Back in the '90s the southern area of my county experienced severe flooding. Court was cancelled so a friend of mine and I drove down to the emergency HQ. Not much was going on but we heard the National Guard pilots were bored and taking people for rides in their UH-60s. When we got there Black Hawks were gone, but a soldier driving a HEMTT offered us a tour of the area. It was pretty cool; the driver navigated by looking at the power poles and road signs, as the roads were covered with about 3-4 feet of water. It even leaked in the bottom of the truck's doors, which was pretty impressive considering the size of the truck:

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,322
    ab348 said:

    In the "nothing exceeds like excess" department, check out this real estate listing. Be sure to click the photos link above the text box (the real estate web page appears to be from the late '90s). I'm wondering if it is a place belonging to some overpaid pro athlete...

    https://www.flexmls.com/share/5pB1b/5021-E-Arabian-WAY-Paradise-Valley-AZ-85253

    Garage spaces….30? SOLD!

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    tjc78 said:

    Oh and yesterday was the anniversary of Hurricane Sandy where my wife and I were stuck on a cruise ship during our Honeymoon.

    @tjc78 If I were you I would start listening to weather reports - going forward.
    I check the weather about 10 times a day, especially hourly....but I need to know whether I am playing outdoor tennis or not, and in the winter whether to wear boots or not! And the all news radio station has weather every 10 times for those with OCD about weather!

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    ab348 said:

    In the "nothing exceeds like excess" department, check out this real estate listing. Be sure to click the photos link above the text box (the real estate web page appears to be from the late '90s). I'm wondering if it is a place belonging to some overpaid pro athlete...

    https://www.flexmls.com/share/5pB1b/5021-E-Arabian-WAY-Paradise-Valley-AZ-85253

    ab, how and why did you find that listing, are you thinking of moving to AZ? Are you trying to outdo my Pfeister?
    Whomever buys that place is a gracious host, with 30 COVERED parking spaces.
    I would have no interest in that place, it's isolated, no one around, it would get pretty boring very quickly....unless it was a party place, which doesn't interest me much either.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,210
    At $18 million it is a bit out of my price range.

    It was in today’s Hemmings daily.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    @driver100 said:
    @tjc78 If I were you I would start listening to weather reports - going forward.
    I check the weather about 10 times a day, especially hourly....but I need to know whether I am playing outdoor tennis or not, and in the winter whether to wear boots or not! And the all news radio station has weather every 10 times for those with OCD about weather!

    Usually I’m all over it, just was a really hectic couple of days.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,451
    1985, probably cocaine or S&L/insider trading money laundering stuff lol.

    Something gaudy in the Seattle area for similar money
    ab348 said:

    In the "nothing exceeds like excess" department, check out this real estate listing. Be sure to click the photos link above the text box (the real estate web page appears to be from the late '90s). I'm wondering if it is a place belonging to some overpaid pro athlete...

    https://www.flexmls.com/share/5pB1b/5021-E-Arabian-WAY-Paradise-Valley-AZ-85253

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,844
    tjc78 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    Why would the tankless shut off because you have a HE dishwasher? As long as you’re calling for hot water it should provide hot water.

    Now, about that shower thingy, I’d make sure I was first into the shower.

    Is there anything you like about your tankless heater?

    jmonroe

    Tankless water heaters require a certain amount of pressure and time to turn on. The HE appliances put water in small amounts at a time that many times won’t trigger the unit to turn on, or if it does not until it’s ready to shut back off.

    Is there anything I like? Well, yes. Five showers back to to back (sometimes three at once) with no issues. Wife can fill her soaking tub to capacity with no loss of temperature. I also like the fact that there isn’t 50 gallons of water sitting in a tank and they do save money on gas (while wasting a bit of water due to long wait times).


    Getting 5 showers back to back is very good, so I’d keep that thing. But the 2 plumbers I know that stopped installing them about 4 years ago said their customers could not get that volume of hot water from the units they installed. It could be the early ones couldn’t do that so good for you. However, I don’t plan to install a tankless unit when mine bites the dust which can’t be too long from now since it’s 7 years old.

    jmonroe
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,672
    some applications will do better with 2 units. Or a POS insta hot booster.

    or just don't be impatient and wait the 15 seconds for water to get there from the tank.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,876
    stickguy said:

    some applications will do better with 2 units. Or a POS insta hot booster.

    or just don't be impatient and wait the 15 seconds for water to get there from the tank.

    I've thought about a small one just for the master bath, which is about 45-50 feet from our gas HW heater.

    But, after finishing the basement ceiling, I put it out of my mind.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,672
    my BIL has a large house. they have split systems. I forget all the details, but I think it is a tankless feeding the guest room area, and a tank for the master? something like that. The tankless is on the opposite side of the house from the hot water tank so the hot water doesn't have to travel as far.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    If you need 5 showers back to back (or front to front, whatever) or 3 showers at once then tankless seems the way to go....especially if you have more than one unit. But for the average household, it probably isn't worth the extra cost which could be 2, 3 or 4 or more times as much as a tanker.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZMember Posts: 5,216
    Has NYC boy (the plumbing wholesaler) checked in regarding "instant" heat water heaters? Someone asked some time ago, and I'm particularly interested in what he has to say.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,270

    @cdnpinhead said:
    Has NYC boy (the plumbing wholesaler) checked in regarding "instant" heat water heaters? Someone asked some time ago, and I'm particularly interested in what he has to say.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    edited October 2021
    4 houses ago.....about 20 years ago MrsD100 had a small auxiliary gas heater below the kitchen sink. One day it stopped working....replacing that little thing cost just as much as replacing a large 40 or 50 gallon tank. :'(

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    Ours has no problem with volume.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,210
    edited October 2021
    I just discovered that Roku has a new channel called This Old House Classic (they already had a TOH channel which showed the 3 newest seasons). The Classic channel is showing old stuff with Bob Vila hosting. They just finished up season 2 with the massive Bigelow House condo conversion and now they’re showing the first series from 1979 with the Dorchester house on Percival St in Boston.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,907
    edited October 2021
    When I worked for the Book Publishing Company for 16 years one of the books I sold was:

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,063

    @ab348 said:
    I just discovered that Roku has a new channel called This Old House Classic (they already had a TOH channel which showed the 3 newest seasons). The Classic channel is showing old stuff with Bob Vila hosting. They just finished up season 2 with the massive Bigelow House condo conversion and now they’re showing the first series from 1979 with the Dorchester house on Percival St in Boston.

    I’ve watched some of that too. Good stuff. If you can believe it Tom Silva is Tik Tok with his daughter. Does some goofy stuff, but also tutorials and such.

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