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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 765

    You said you had a noisy KA dishwasher. That’s not good. There are two dishwashers in our house. The Samsung is quiet but the other one gets noisy at times. :s

    jmonroe


    You gotta make sure they're BOTH serviced properly ;)
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,610
    edited December 2021

    @stickguy said:
    No 2 car garage at the shore though. Better budget for an upgrade.

    Sure is!! I can probably fit three in a pinch. Entire left side is ours. Pic from listing. All that stuff on the walls is gone and cleaned up.

    That pic shows about half the depth.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,610

    @graphicguy said:
    Interestingly, I have an SPL meter I use for tweaking my home theater. I took a dishwasher reading of the KA while running. It was supposed to be 39db. I even allowed for some "fudge factor". But, it (and the replacement) logged 60-64db. Or, about the sound of a hairdryer.

    Totally unacceptable and I would have returned it too. I’m going to have to test mine with the DB meter on my phone.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,478

    @dad23 said:
    You said you had a noisy KA dishwasher. That’s not good. There are two dishwashers in our house. The Samsung is quiet but the other one gets noisy at times. :s

    jmonroe

    You gotta make sure they're BOTH serviced properly ;)

    It’s going to be expensive since they’re both waaay out of warranty. :(

    Jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWMember Posts: 3,308
    The Bosch DW we had was the quietist but the GE Monogram is also quiet.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 206,824
    Salesperson at a high end appliance store once told me that if it is under 48 db, it's very, very quiet. Said no one can really tell the difference between 46 or 39 db.

    Our Bosch is very quiet. Has an LED that shines on the floor, when running, so you don't open it up. Needs it, too.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,332
    Our LG DW is super quiet until it gets musical at the end.
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,478

    @explorerx4 said:
    Our LG DW is super quiet until it gets musical at the end.

    If you’re kitchen is large enough for dancing, go for it.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,610

    @explorerx4 said:
    Our LG DW is super quiet until it gets musical at the end.

    You should hear our Samsung W/D… it sounds like a video game for about 30 seconds after the cycle.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,610

    Not mine but similar

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,742
    tjc78 said:

    @explorerx4 said:

    Our LG DW is super quiet until it gets musical at the end.

    You should hear our Samsung W/D… it sounds like a video game for about 30 seconds after the cycle.


    I've muted our Samsung W/D combo.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,478

    @tjc78 said:
    Not mine but similar

    That’s a lot better than hearing a loud buzzer go off and doesn’t stop until you shut it up like Mrs. j’s dryer. She never uses that feature because of the racket it makes.

    I wonder how much money I wasted on that feature when we bought that beast.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,583

    @tjc78 said:
    Not mine but similar

    That looks like the exact one I have. Ridiculous noise.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 206,824
    Our LG washer (the new one, and recently departed one) have similar ending chimes, but much shorter.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,853


    Fought with KA for about 3 months. They even brought a new one out for replacement. Same result. They finally just gave me my money back.

    That'll teach them not to mess with the King of the Buybacks!! B)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 26,385
    On my WP washer and dryer, the soft, barely audible chime at the end, can be turned off or made louder, I think...

    My dishwasher, Whirlpool, doesn't have any noises at the end. It's quiet enough it easy to converse in the galley kitchen with it operating. I don't have a decibel meter. The Bosch the son and DIL have makes more noise. BUT it's in an open concept house and the position in the kitchen is shaped in a way sound reflects into part of the great room.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2021
    So we like our cars loud and our appliances quiet?

    For those that have owned loud rip roaring V8's with serious exhaust notes, did it ever get old?
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,656
    We have the Samsung WD too. Kinda like the snappy tunes definitely better than the old joy buzzer!

    Did some more research today at local appliance guy (he sells, and is also an authorized service center). Turned me off whirlpool. Probably going to grab the killer deal on the new Frigidaire and be done with it, and cancel our WP order from BJs.

    Unless we get up sold…. But I doubt it.

    Really prefer dealing with local specialist. Even costs less than the big box store.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,391

    @andres3 - what is the installed price for the new S4 motor?

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @andres3 - what is the installed price for the new S4 motor?

    With all the smart extras while were in there it's coming out to about $19,500.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,299
    jmonroe1 said:

    @dad23 said:

    You said you had a noisy KA dishwasher. That’s not good. There are two dishwashers in our house. The Samsung is quiet but the other one gets noisy at times. :s

    jmonroe

    You gotta make sure they're BOTH serviced properly ;)

    It’s going to be expensive since they’re both waaay out of warranty. :(

    Jmonroe


    ....and if you get rid of the one, half of your assets will disappear too!

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,299
    tjc78 said:

    Not mine but similar


    I turn on our Maytag DW before going to bed, that stupid noise would wake us up!

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,478

    @driver100 said:
    ....and if you get rid of the one, half of your assets will disappear too!

    Dishwashers don’t lean on you that much do they?

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,478

    @andres3 said:
    With all the smart extras while were in there it's coming out to about $19,500.

    OUCH. Is it really worth doing that at a non-Audi dealer? If there is the least bit of a hiccup you’re doomed.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,391

    @andres3 said:
    With all the smart extras while were in there it's coming out to about $19,500.

    Ouch. It would still be worth a tow to Audi for a hope for 50% good will.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,521

    @andres3 said:
    So we like our cars loud and our appliances quiet?

    For those that have owned loud rip roaring V8's with serious exhaust notes, did it ever get old?

    Don't ask the owners ask their neighbors.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    With all the smart extras while were in there it's coming out to about $19,500.

    Ouch. It would still be worth a tow to Audi for a hope for 50% good will.


    Maybe.... let's say they go 50% on material only, but not on labor. The labor will easily double, if not triple IMHO. Then, there's markup on the parts, and I have a strong inclination they markup the parts FAR more than my "honest" shop. So take off 50% only to add back in 20% and another $5-6K in labor? No thanks. Someone recently posted on a FB S4 forum that a dealership gave a $28K quote for engine troubles. Sounds about right.

    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2021
    jmonroe1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    With all the smart extras while were in there it's coming out to about $19,500.

    OUCH. Is it really worth doing that at a non-Audi dealer? If there is the least bit of a hiccup you’re doomed.

    jmonroe


    If this wasn't one of the best, if not very best regarded shops in all of Southern CA, I'd be hesitant, but I have more confidence in my shop than the hacks in the dealership. ESPECIALLY if the management at the dealership is "cracking the whip" to speed up production over quality.

    It's certainly a big bill and near the cusp of the fence of making financial sense. If it wasn't for the hot used market that might not be so. Also, I like the car, and that helps. If I hated the car, the equation might favor letting someone else take on the project.

    The car was tip top for 11 months. If this is just a one-time aberration, it's not the end of the world. If things start failing like dominoes, it'll be a quick sale.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,391
    edited December 2021

    @andres3 said:
    Maybe.... let's say they go 50% on material only, but not on labor. The labor will easily double, if not triple IMHO. Then, there's markup on the parts, and I have a strong inclination they markup the parts FAR more than my "honest" shop. So take off 50% only to add back in 20% and another $5-6K in labor? No thanks. Someone recently posted on a FB S4 forum that a dealership gave a $28K quote for engine troubles. Sounds about right.

    But if they give you 50% parts and labor, then you are at $14k and I suspect a more favorable warranty

    Even at 50% parts only maybe $21k with a better warranty

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    Maybe.... let's say they go 50% on material only, but not on labor. The labor will easily double, if not triple IMHO. Then, there's markup on the parts, and I have a strong inclination they markup the parts FAR more than my "honest" shop. So take off 50% only to add back in 20% and another $5-6K in labor? No thanks. Someone recently posted on a FB S4 forum that a dealership gave a $28K quote for engine troubles. Sounds about right.

    But if they give you 50% parts and labor, then you are at $14k and I suspect a more favorable warranty


    Assuming they included new parts that don't necessarily need to be new, but are "nice to haves" while they are "in there." But that's maybe $1k tops I think. In the end I felt I have the right shop and techs slated to take on this big project.

    This is where a very good shop can become a GREAT shop.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    jmonroe1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    With all the smart extras while were in there it's coming out to about $19,500.

    OUCH. Is it really worth doing that at a non-Audi dealer? If there is the least bit of a hiccup you’re doomed.

    jmonroe


    The biggest chance of doom I have, by far, is from a Karen colliding with my "just fixed up" S4 and totaling it. Geico already said they wouldn't consider an OEM engine at "stated value" nor a "customization" value.

    This worries me more than anything else right now.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,391

    Oh well, your money, your choice.

    What does a “Karen” have to do with anything?

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    edited December 2021
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Oh well, your money, your choice.

    What does a “Karen” have to do with anything?

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Oh well, your money, your choice.

    What does a “Karen” have to do with anything?

    You could substitute "any negligent bad driver" for Karen if you wish.

    You are also hypothetically assuming Audi would do goodwill on a used 6-year old (going on 7) car bought used from a non-Audi dealership.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,478

    @andres3 said:
    If this wasn't one of the best, if not very best regarded shops in all of Southern CA, I'd be hesitant, but I have more confidence in my shop than the hacks in the dealership. ESPECIALLY if the management at the dealership is "cracking the whip" to speed up production over quality.

    It's certainly a big bill and near the cusp of the fence of making financial sense. If it wasn't for the hot used market that might not be so. Also, I like the car, and that helps. If I hated the car, the equation might favor letting someone else take on the project.

    The car was tip top for 11 months. If this is just a one-time aberration, it's not the end of the world. If things start failing like dominoes, it'll be a quick sale.

    I sincerely hope this works out well for you. Give us a report after you put 1000 miles on the new engine.

    Good luck.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,391

    @andres3 said:
    You could substitute "any negligent bad driver" for Karen if you wish.

    You are also hypothetically assuming Audi would do goodwill on a used 6-year old (going on 7) car bought used from a non-Audi dealership.

    I do not associate a Karen as “any negligent bad driver”. I associate a Karen as someone falsely blaming someone else for an issue that they caused but those I have seen are not related to car accidents

    Yes, it is a leap of faith to try for a good will gesture from Audi but yours was low mileage and no ECU flash so to me it would be worth a shot. The worst that they could say is no.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,656
    I wonder what you could have gotten for it as a roller without doing anything? Probably not enough to add to the cost of the new motor and get a perfect one.

    and whenever my son mentions buying out his S4 lease I will show him a copy of this thread.

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  • jipsterjipster Louisville, KentuckyMember Posts: 6,182

    Yo @oldfarmer50 , how'd your son's head gasket repair go?

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,299
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    Maybe.... let's say they go 50% on material only, but not on labor. The labor will easily double, if not triple IMHO. Then, there's markup on the parts, and I have a strong inclination they markup the parts FAR more than my "honest" shop. So take off 50% only to add back in 20% and another $5-6K in labor? No thanks. Someone recently posted on a FB S4 forum that a dealership gave a $28K quote for engine troubles. Sounds about right.

    But if they give you 50% parts and labor, then you are at $14k and I suspect a more favorable warranty

    Even at 50% parts only maybe $21k with a better warranty


    When I had my clutch problem with our Audi, Audi corporate would do nothing for me. The dealer offered 20 or 25% off on parts. It is hard to discount labor, as the mechanic will want to be paid the full amount or close to it. The dealer can discount parts, especially on an expensive repair, but labor is hard to discount.

    I don't know the car at all but I tried to get a trade-in value and it came out to $25 to 26K. Does that sound right? Is it worth it to spend $20k for a car worth $25k. OTOH, what do you do with it if the engine is gone?
    Maybe get an engine from the wreckers, pop it in, and then try to sell it to some poor soul!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,656
    most common I think is to get a used engine. that is what most people would do. all the labor cost is the same but the main part should be a lot cheaper.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,656
    well, if you want to monitor what a perfect low mile 2015 B8 S4 can go for, here's the one to watch. Love this color combo and option load.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjZD8B6p/2015-audi-s4

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,391

    @stickguy said:
    well, if you want to monitor what a perfect low mile 2015 B8 S4 can go for, here's the one to watch. Love this color combo and option load.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjZD8B6p/2015-audi-s4

    Motor probably only good for another 10k miles :)

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,599
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @stickguy said:

    well, if you want to monitor what a perfect low mile 2015 B8 S4 can go for, here's the one to watch. Love this color combo and option load.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjZD8B6p/2015-audi-s4

    Motor probably only good for another 10k miles :)


    The option packages are Porsche expensive. $3200 for special paint? $67K sticker in 2015.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,299
    stickguy said:

    well, if you want to monitor what a perfect low mile 2015 B8 S4 can go for, here's the one to watch. Love this color combo and option load.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rjZD8B6p/2015-audi-s4

    It's at $30k this a.m......I think I was close since this one only has 34000 miles.
    What a predicament, a new engine, a rebuilt engine, wait for an accident like a transplant, drop in a Jetta engine and hope no one notices........what a dilemma!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,853
    Send it to one of those shops used in the hackneyed TV shows on Motor Trend like Iron Resurrection. Joe Martin can drop a used LS engine from a wrecked Texas Chevy truck into it and with a bit of welding, fix it right up. :D

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,656

    JRgo replaced the engine in an R8 twin turbo in his garage without a lift. And did an A6 3.0t in his new shop. It can be done.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,521
    stickguy said:

    JRgo replaced the engine in an R8 twin turbo in his garage without a lift. And did an A6 3.0t in his new shop. It can be done.

    Well in reality you can put any engine you want into it if you have enough cash to throw at it.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,656
    Well it was the same engine going back (new unit, same version though). That’s certainly easier than swapping to a different motor entirely!

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    You could substitute "any negligent bad driver" for Karen if you wish.

    You are also hypothetically assuming Audi would do goodwill on a used 6-year old (going on 7) car bought used from a non-Audi dealership.

    I do not associate a Karen as “any negligent bad driver”. I associate a Karen as someone falsely blaming someone else for an issue that they caused but those I have seen are not related to car accidents

    Yes, it is a leap of faith to try for a good will gesture from Audi but yours was low mileage and no ECU flash so to me it would be worth a shot. The worst that they could say is no.


    That's the thing.... that shot wasn't free. Highly likely they'd want to take out and diagnose the engine on my dime; then decide upon a course of action based on what's found. Too big of a leap with too many contingencies for me, especially at an outrageous labor rate.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,093
    stickguy said:

    most common I think is to get a used engine. that is what most people would do. all the labor cost is the same but the main part should be a lot cheaper.

    That was the goal but in 2 months no low mileage engines appeared on the market. Nothing even below 65K miles from what I recall. Almost all were 85K plus, with most being 100K+
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,521
    andres3 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    @andres3 said:

    You could substitute "any negligent bad driver" for Karen if you wish.

    You are also hypothetically assuming Audi would do goodwill on a used 6-year old (going on 7) car bought used from a non-Audi dealership.

    I do not associate a Karen as “any negligent bad driver”. I associate a Karen as someone falsely blaming someone else for an issue that they caused but those I have seen are not related to car accidents

    Yes, it is a leap of faith to try for a good will gesture from Audi but yours was low mileage and no ECU flash so to me it would be worth a shot. The worst that they could say is no.

    That's the thing.... that shot wasn't free. Highly likely they'd want to take out and diagnose the engine on my dime; then decide upon a course of action based on what's found. Too big of a leap with too many contingencies for me, especially at an outrageous labor rate.


    I have to feel sorry for people named Karen. How did that name ever come to mean what it does?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

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